Once the Inevitable 90s Revival occurs which genre will be the most influetial or popular?

Another angle on this that may be way off base: the 90s were in some way (perhaps largely rhetorically, again) committed to a sort of postmodern universal-sampling agenda, with things like Paul's Boutique becoming touchstones and records like Odelay and the Bran Van 3000 album getting hype on the back of "they put every genre in a blender and hit Frappe!" (That kind of line now seems a little trite in hindsight, but it was the rallying cry.) Not to mention all manner of unlikely revivalism (see: the swing vs ska thread) already happening in the mid-to-late decade.

Now, the ONE thing that was sort of off-limits was everything to do with the 80s, because the other big 90s rallying cry was the anti-80s rejection already discussed. Once the 80s got let back into the tent (Miss Kittin, Midnite Vultures, dance-punk, whatever point of reference you like), there was kinda no degraded past thing left to pick up on. I mean, it's not like the 00s were solely about rediscovering the 80s - - - remember freak-folk? All the post-00 Elephant Six-related records? Etc... it's just that the 80s revival was particularly visible because these were doors we were not supposed to re-open.

In other words, I wonder if there can be a 90s revival, not only because the 90s never went away in the first place, but because everything under the sun has already been authorized for revival. We may see pockets of this or that thing coming back into vogue due to generational turnaround (ie: I grew up with the Positive Vibes bands; people my age might tap into those sounds with no sense of them being Evil Corporate Rock) but I'm not expecting the mass unleashing of any particular sound/aesthetic.

That being said, there were an awful lot of horrendous acid-washed ripped jeans on sale at the mall a couple weeks ago...

Back then I remember thinking that bands like Depeche Mode and Pet Shop Boys may have been the most ahead of their time in the 80s, but by the 90s their sound was dated.

If we take this template and flip so it applies today: who from the 90s sounded incredibly ahead of their time at the time, but then seemed pathetically dated last decade? That's the kind of person due to be revived, then.

This beat is, this beat is, this beat is Technotronic.

I'm personally rooting for a continuation of the Hip-house revival.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXowKTHMJ0s

Having gone from rampant irreverence to commercial sellout in 10 years, the 2000s at least saved dance music from it's own success, not by "going back underground, to stop it falling into the wrong hands", but by turning it into a true "artform".

Maybe this is true of of the more underground varieties of dance music, but I really think mainstream/chart dance became worse in the 00s. I think the irreverence, the sense of utopia, the punky rebel energy, the sincerity, made 90s dance much more interesting that 00s mainstream dance, which seems to be more about coolness, detachment, hipness, ironic reference points - all these trends culminating in the late 00s "indie electro", one of the worst forms of dance music ever. Gimme your Westbams and Technoheads and Apollo 440s over LCD Soundsystem and Crystal Castles any day!

i can't stand most indie electro stuff with the exception of lcd. dude made some good music.

If we take this template and flip so it applies today: who from the 90s sounded incredibly ahead of their time at the time, but then seemed pathetically dated last decade? That's the kind of person due to be revived, then.

I'd really hope there'll be a jungle revival of some sort. Back in 1994 it felt like there was so much potential in that stuff, but then after a year or two it was gone, and even though drum'n'bass was great for a few years after that, by the late 90s it felt like the whole thing had solidified into stagnant and predictable subgenres. And of course jungle couldn't have been revived in the 00s because of the general 80s coolness and anti-sampling attitude of that decade (as discussed above), but if were gonna have 90s revival in the 10s, then jungle is one of those prematurely withered lineages I hope someone would continue.

I think the reason people say 80s revival is because there is so much excessive flashiness and hipness that overshadows or is pushed to be the reason to care about something before you hear any music. Internet gossip has made music listeners a bit shallow, so people learn about all the reasons why an artist is hip that doesn't even pertain to the music they make, all before they hear a note. In the 90s your opinion about an artist was more likely based on the CD you heard, or on college radio, and the image you associated with it was the album art. These days its like indie TMZ. (Of course all of this was mostly about an indie perspective).

I'm surprised at Tuomas of all people for wanting a retro revival. I thought you hated retro, tuomas? Wanting a revival of music from when you were 12 is a bit geir-like.

I wasn't talking about a full-blown revival, that's why I mentioned continuing the lineage of jungle, not just copying it. My point was that if there's gonne be an "inevitable 90s revival", jungle would be one of those relatively unexplored bits in the 90s genre map that someone could build on.

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Man I wish it was still the 90s when it was all about the music and fashion played no part whatsoever in people's taste

Oh I wish I was a Beck raver with jungles in my hair.

With respect to dance music, I don't think that there was a big break between the 80s and 90s.

It was. But it was around 1987-1988 already. The 90s started then.

(Speaking of music here though. Clothes and hairstyles were still very much 80s until 1991 or thereabouts)

a lot of my friends have been repping Drinking In LA as some sort of lost classic just fyi?

If we take this template and flip so it applies today: who from the 90s sounded incredibly ahead of their time at the time, but then seemed pathetically dated last decade?

Hardcore techno.

A 90s revival is not inevitable, and I'm pretty sure threads like these have jinxed this possibility..

I suppose one question that could help point in the right direction: are there any 90s artists or songs or albums that became retroactively more popular during the 00s, perhaps as a result of usage in a soundtrack or commercial? This happened a lot with 80s pop during the late 90s, ie Tainted Love, Da Da Da... I know there were more of these.. top 40 stations (in my area anyway) added these songs to their rotations as a result of the commercials' popularity (and I'm assuming an increase of listener requests..) and around the same time there was "the wedding singer" soundtrack, and cartoon network started airing Thundercats in the afternoons... something tells me "80s nostalgia" was considered highly marketable during the last 3 years of the 90s and beyond, whereas 90s nostalgia between 2007 and the present hasn't been nearly as ubiquitous.

The only recent "90s nostalgia" movie I can recall is The Wackness and that was over 2 years ago.. I occasionally hear some newer artists like Silversun pickups or that Amerie song "Why R U?" from last summer, but unfortunately none of these attempts seem to be making any lasting impressions.

maybe this thread highlights how stupid it is to divide everything cultural up into decades anyway

maybe this thread highlights how stupid it is to divide everything cultural up into decades anyway

xposts. Drinking in LA was on the radio when i was in work today. It is not a lost classic.

Why do I fucking bother

Anyway, I think, what would be needed for a 90s revival is for typical 90s music to become unfashionable. Which hasn't really happend other than in the case of Eurodance and drum'n'bass.

Drum and Bass is big with the kids at the moment, sunshine

How is 'Why R U?' 90s?

Are you serious

I agree with jungle and wouldn't be surprised if hardcore techno came back, albeit in some mutated form.

Plenty of bands from the Creation stable will be ripped off, I'm sure.

ffs it's a reasonable question

I imagine that's based on the "synthetic substitution" break, yeah? vocals wouldn't be out of place in 90s r&b, either

Wouldn't you guys rather this generation came up with it's own original music that has nothing to do with what has gone before?

Rites of Spring revival

Well that's obviously going to happen as music continues to evolve.. I don't think that's what the original question was suggesting (xpost)

here were an awful lot of horrendous acid-washed ripped jeans on sale at the mall a couple weeks ago...

not to mention plaid revival

I hope Naughty by Nature becomes the coolest thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5J0xVfHNZs

because they were awesome xp

look for a comeback by Sylk-E Fyne. and just less use of the letter i in general.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7afzqmdQcUc/SkpxbuNPbtI/AAAAAAAABqI/Ab5OBjw6L4o/s400/SYLK-E+FINE+-+Raw+Sylk+(1998).jpg

yeahhhhhhhh I could do for a revival of this type of slow-rolling rap slow jam in general

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaNMAlt4IjQ

damn, I want to hear z-ro on that beat

this album sounded SOOOOOOOOOO great to me the other day! uh, appropos of nothing.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3SuTf_D3hhk/Sp0s3EHgGiI/AAAAAAAAA9k/kXzv5BvW42g/s320/cover.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQdfI6rFmJE

like, the best thing i had heard in weeks.

Luke Records!

nice

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Yeah, this will happen.

Or it already has.

Revive this imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If7bELSqWy0&feature=related

I keep feeling that if there is a 90-revival it won't be centered much on grunge, since I feel that post-grunge, which is still very popular, has pretty much killed that possibility of happening for quite a while. Instead I feel that music is going to go in the direction of what if grunge never happened and be some sort of mutant hybrid of shoegaze, new jack swing and jangle pop or something like that.

And maybe the orchestral hit will make a comeback.

mutant hybrid of shoegaze, new jack swing and jangle pop or something like that

This is sort of already happening with a lot of that glo-fi (i know, i'm sorry) stuff.