Once the Inevitable 90s Revival occurs which genre will be the most influetial or popular?

the two other comparisons are just as off-base

dubstep is basically trip hop tho isn't it?

Yeah, I wonder if trip-hop ever really went away. In any case, it's definitely back.

K7 - never heard of them
Arrested Development - absolutely awful, awful band. hated them at the time. still hate them.
Young Disciples - falls under the "music you are ashamed to have purchased" thread. terrible.
Shanice - never heard of them
Fugees - ugh no
Jade, Apache Indian - never heard of either

that is the most random, non-representative sampling I have ever seen of 90s hip-hop/r&b are u british or something

Maybe we'll see kids doing moody sample collage like DJ Shadow again, except (!) using old DJ Shadow records for the samples.

kaiser chiefs are kind of britpop (or they were last i heard). they're also kind of 2005.

K7 - never heard of them

come baby come baby baby come come

you gotta give me lovin' and you gotta give me some

i thought they were the tampon ladies?

come baby come baby baby come come

hahaha oh right THAT song. ugh

I dunno, industrial shock rock type stuff, maybe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnaRK8e_Ls0

drrrooppp wiiiinddd!

always feel like sampledelica (trip hop up to like french filter disco) was the defining sound of the 90's, sure it was a nostalgic decade, esp for the seventies, but the particular refractions of its influences has a very definite feel and aesthetic

there was so much anti-eighties rhetoric in the nineties, iirc, that its revival seemed unlikely. (i guess the 90s was my first go-round as a person as well: i hadn't figured out how these things work.) there doesn't seem to be as radical a disjuncture between the nineties and now, though, not by comparison.

reivials of daft punk, massive attack, portishead, nirvana -- sure not to blow anyone's mind.

― lipster grifter (history mayne), Friday, 19 March 2010 15:14 (2 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah, i remember people being outraged by the idea of an 80s revival. zoot woman did an interview around 2001 where the journo was all like "but... thatcher and yuppies and blah blah blah... think of the children"

90s revivalism pretty big among UK wtfeverstep merchants, whether it's Zomby rave nostalgia, Joker and Ikonika sampling old MegaDrive games, Subeena's general Warpiness... whether this actually informs any new UK pop idk

― mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 19 March 2010 15:22 (2 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah, was just about to post something along these lines. i guess it started with burial bringing back the 2step beats.

Fugees - ugh no

s fucking b (for the rest of the post too)

Reagan/Thatcher actually looking pretty good next to their 00s revival counterparts.

A word of warning:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/mar/18/alphabeat-la-roux-goldfrapp-90s-revival

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 March 2010 15:06 (3 hours ago) Bookmark

whoever this "tom ewing" guy is, he obviously knows shit all about music.

*loud joyful bar banter suddenly stops, icy glares from everyone at "max arrrrgh"*

Please no Arrested Development. They seem like the exact thing that doesn't get revived; a watered down version of Native Tongues rap, which I guess had too many reference to doo-doo to get a cross-the-board foist.

and running through it were the huge, sad keyboard sounds of 90s trance records – great glass spears of melancholy sending me back to a time I never realised I could miss

trance could be a key sign of a return of the repressed uk 90s, has the requisite emotional directness at the expense of tastefulness that revivalists like to fuck with oh so playfully

not the same with scandinavians doing it (even silent shout a bit i guess)

ardkore revival was always easier cos it was fairly clownish to begin with

whoever this "tom ewing" guy is, he obviously knows shit all about music.

Send in a clown -- don't bother, one's here.

the answer o the question is..... swing revival

We will see the true dawn of the Alexvanderpoolera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mYA0gir4PA

I could totally see more R&B vocal groups.

lol u kno i <3 ewing rly.

trance and garage is where it's at on the retro tip, super OBVS

I think dubstep has as much potential to branch into an IDM revival as it does a trip-hop revival.

Yeah, trance is gonna make it's way into pop music.

Somehow...

sampling will def come back big time. not that sampling was strictly a 90s phenomenon, but it seemed to permeate practically all forms of popular music apart from indie rock

maybe the korg microsampler will get people into sampling in the same way the microkorg got people into synths last decade

I think it might probably come as a natural transition between the late 80s and early 90s. Thinking about music and clothing - like the 'Graffiti Gear' windbreaker featuring Garfield as a muscle man in the following video - from 1991:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK4Rc0uuvIE

Artists like Tensnake and Joy Orbison sound at least to my ears like they are exploring that path and they seem to be getting favorable attention... might be another 3 or 4 years until it reaches the mainstream and makes it 'uncool' before we move to the teenage angst and nostalgia of the mid 90s.

Sampling is welcome (although it never really went away.) Just please spare us the wall-of-drumloops that plagued mid-90s alt-rock.

sampling is pretty complicated litigation-wise, doubt we'll ever see its revival on the scale of its prevalence in the 90s. it's just too expensive.

i think of the 80s as the really big sampladelic era ne way. that important gilbert o'sullivan vs biz markie (iirc) case was in about 1990 i think.

yeah peak is like '87-'9something

sampling, trancey synths, 2step, boyzIImen early mariah TLC

stickers/t-shirts of calvin peeing on things never really went away (though it is also a kind of sampling)

The nineties' collective memory largely saw the eighties as a monstrous joke.

exactly -- and that never happened to the during the noughties. i don't think, anyway. trousers got tighter but there's no noughties equivalent to "the wedding singer" if you get me.

What about Eurodance? I'm sure to many people stuff like this feels as corny now as 80s lipstick pop felt in the 90s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH7Mn5fHmNI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKuRn8gjMhs

Somehow I feel this isn't gonna be the style the inevitable 90s revivalists are going to bite.

yeah you might be right, but that stuff was always seen as slightly cheesy

i guess i mean that even stuff that was "taken seriously" in the 1980s (yeah yeah, needs unpacking) wasn't much loved in the 1990s

or so it seemed to me

also surely the "uncool" stuff is exactly the stuff that *will* get revived?

Though if this style is gonna come back in vogue, I'm gonna be so happy, because those were THE BEST DAYS EVER!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BhueqxT4Ss

also surely the "uncool" stuff is exactly the stuff that *will* get revived?

When the first ironic Eurorapper shows up I'm gonna believe you, but not quite yet.

yeah you might be right, but that stuff was always seen as slightly cheesy

Not if you were a "rave" teenager back then.

sampling, trancey synths, 2step, boyzIImen early mariah TLC

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This could be true for independent and underground musicians for the following 2 years but as home production becomes more advanced independent artists will be able to gather influence from genres with more complex production (as opposed to garage rock, lo-fi, "chillwave", folk and all sample based music that dominates the scene). Mainstream will likely continue to evolve and might be drawing inspiration from the underground scene in the 00's rather than from the 90s.

I don't really see rock making an important comeback anytime soon.

also surely the "uncool" stuff is exactly the stuff that *will* get revived?

― rip sarah silverman 3/19/10 never forget (history mayne)

Yes, reviving crap is all part of the the hipsters' ironic nature. What I meant is that it will become uncool once the mainstream catches unto it, then hipster musicians will have to review their kitsch history and move to another spot.

But then I constantly think of the new generations as some sort of punk identity with no real idealism and who just love pranking their mediatic environment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul_hcxlA5KU

I used to dress up like this back in the 90s... Except that I had more colourful clothes, like orange baggy jeans and neon green rave shirts. If the 2010s kids will find it cool again, that'll be AWESOME!

Which come to think of it might just be some sort of 80s subconcious revival where it's all fun and games and nobody really has a strong opinion or hates deeply or gives a shit about science or politics. New generations might have to deal with it and suddenly wham here comes a 90s social revival of depression and sectarianism.

the 80s being blissfully free of depression and sectarianism

bobby sands revival we hardly knew u

Well, sure no decade or century for the matter has been truly free from depression or sectarianism, but I sort of have the idea that in the 80s and 00s people preferred to get distracted from them and subconciously avoid them while in the 90s generations seemed to want to gorge on them.

dubstep is basically trip hop tho isn't it?

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― nakhchivan, Friday, March 19, 2010 5:41 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark

Jungle/DnB

Hip-hop currently has both anyway. What is needed now is for the stuff performed by the singers to sound less like Aretha Franklin and more like The Beatles.

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― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:40 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

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dubstep's now become such a diverse genre, going from the Caspa & Rusko school of jump-up in-yer-face bosh, to Joker's more hiphop-influenced purple sound, then some more IDM-influenced stuff which doesn't really incorporate much dub nor step but is still dubstep, and then yeah the more trip hoppy stuff.

i find it almost impossible to keep up, but that's because these days if it plays at 140bpm and has a modicum of bass, then it seems to fit under dubstep.

while geir's comment above is total nonsense, it did pop into my head while i was cycling last ngiht for some reason, and i started wondering what a psychedelic r'n'b music might sound like. not being an expert on modern r'n'b the closest thing i could think of was "The Love Below" or something by Erykah Badu, but it would be interesting to hear someone really pushing things out in the weird stakes or doing bizarre concept albums. Possibly was something done in the seventies by Parliament or Marvin or Stevie (secret life of plants?) and also Vahid's Rough Guide To Hippie Soul (which I enjoy greatly, still).

Yeah kinda nice it didnt go all wobble like dnb went all hoover

if you look through the credits there is a note re the sample recreation service that was used to put together various tracks.

http://www.fretbase.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/23093.jpg

i don't think i've ever met some1 who likes gabba

I used to like it when I was 15.

what a psychedelic r'n'b music might sound like. not being an expert on modern r'n'b the closest thing i could think of was "The Love Below" or something by Erykah Badu, but it would be interesting to hear someone really pushing things out in the weird stakes or doing bizarre concept albums.

There was a thread about this a while ago:

itt: kinda out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious modern r&b

My personal recommendation: The World Has Made Me the Man of My Dreams by Meshell Ndegeocello. It's a dope album, and "psychedelic rnb" would be a pretty good description for its content.

i don't think i've ever met some1 who likes gabba

I used to like it when I was 15.

― Tuomas, Friday, 9 April 2010 22:42 (Yesterday) Bookmark

Josh Wink was a step up for you then ;)

More shoegaze would be nice. Never got it's day (aside from MBV).

Now that we're pretty well into the 90s revival, I'm working on a mixtape and I'm hunting for a few more 90s throwback tracks that sound like Nika (Zola Jesus) + Rory's Do You Wanna Be My Baby. Obviously I'm gonna use some Pictureplane, Elite Gymnastics, Korallreven, Keep Shelly in Athens, maybe a little jj or Onra. But I'm looking for something that sounds a little more lo-fi and homemade, like the feel of the Nika+Rory track above -- camped out in the bedroom trying to do Nellee Hooper's Soul II Soul productions. Maria Minerva is closing to what I'm getting at but she doesn't sound like she wants to be pop enough. Anyone found anything like this out there on myspace or bandcamp or whatever? Recommendations appreciated.

Not sure I know how to do embedding so here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW_cUJf2pOM

Are we? I'm ready for punk-sensibilities-meets-bittersweet-melodic song craft of the best 90s guitar rock/pop to rule again and that may be the only style I'm looking for so I'll take your word for it otherwise.

Has anyone done the 90s Lounge/Exotica thing yet?

I mean I enjoy other genres but barely any of them are my thing as far as a 90s sound goes. I'm also not sure where I'm going with any of this besides just being compelled to comment after "90s revival" is mentioned anywhere.

wasn't that stuff so inherently retro that any revival of that be seen more as i dunno a '60s thing? (xpost)

That means we are running out of past!

Can't tell if Evan is referring to stuff like "Everlong" or stuff like "Allison Road." The latter maybe has a more direct connection back to the 60s....

Ha, neither I'm talking about what's mostly indie stuff, early/mid nineties era. And the 60s comment seems to be referring to the Lounge mentioned.

This is the most straight up I-can-barely-tell-this-actually-isn't-from-the-90s thing I've heard in a long time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCC9thDM53o

His best Dave Grohl impression.

i'd been predicting a wayne's world revival for a long time but it so far hasn't really happened.
no boisterous renditions of bohemian rhapsody in cars, no alice cooper history lessons.

i was schrwong.

Epic pail.

i dunno, that emporers thing sounds post-90s to me.. the production is a dead giveaway IMO.

as opposed to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeaT-v1T7kI

there's a lot of weirdness/subtlties/jokeyness/tongue-in-cheek/irony and straight-up creativity in actual 80s and 90's music that is completely missing from pretty much everything being labelled "80s revival" or "90s revival" .. this is the element from 80s/90s that i wish would return more than any other.

you should check out total slacker

i've seen them live.. havent heard their recordings tho.

not bad imo

The Emperors is not the Black Wizards