How long before it's OK to appreciate the music of Limp Bizkit?

Yeah I'd say plenty of what was/is considered successful rock music in the 00s neither acknowledges LB or is a direct or indirect reaction to them.

I don't think most "Rock Musicians of the 00s" gave a flying fuck about Durst, and the idea that e.g. the Strokes were making music somehow "in reaction" to LB is a bizarre one.

Wes Borland, who I think if he wasn't so saddled to this band would have a much better shot at a comeback

― Doctor Casino, Friday, 19 March 2010 01:47 (9 hours ago)

i used to think so as well, but (full disclosure, i was 12 when three dollar bill yall came out, and limp bizkit were my favourite band) most of my hope for that has fizzled over time (see: black light burns, rejoining limp bizkit not once, but twice). borland has potential, but he seems to enjoy squandering it in jokey bands. if that's what he enjoys, fine, but its going to prevent him from being taken seriously by anyone. black light burns was the closest he ever got to going out on his own, but for some reason, the riffs and guitar work on that album were stale and completely uninspired. not that that wasn't the case with his riffs before, but prior to that, he always managed to pull something interesting out of his hat every now and then.

i agree that now is a good time for limp bizkit to come back, and if they get that new album of theirs, gold cobra finished, then they may have a shot at winning people over. but i think as far as a critical re-evaluation is concerned, you're not going to get much of one right now.

I can reluctantly agree that some of their singles were/are pretty good, but I refuse to embrace it because of the overly sexist image. I can't forget the fanbase. I simply loathed it. And still do. It's detached now, I guess, but I can't forget.

Otoh I really loved Vanilla Ice's Ice Ice Baby. Still do.

"But after years of being altrock's whipping boy"

Picturing Limp Bizkit as some kind of persecuted minority -- my imagination's not that good! Help me out?

thank god overindulged suburban fratboys aren't capable of seeing themselves as a persecuted minority

But after years of being altrock's whipping boy, I feel like Durst would actually be really comfortable in the current pop music climate.

??? Limp Bizkit was nothing if not a direct outgrowth of Alternative Rock proper...directly in the lineage of Faith No More

I love what Reverend Manson said about them. something about them being tuneless apes that called you a "fag" in high school and pretend to be outsiders.

then again some of that is a lil hypocritical on his end, but what the hey

if anything rap/rock/numetal/whatever is the last gasp of 90s popular alternative rock

i regularly play limp bizkit at my parties , my bf and i get into it

i am so out-of-it (almost a decade at this point) that limp bizkit is still my reference point for crappy mainstream mook rock that i barely have heard. i have no idea what has come down the pike since then since i don't listen to the radio or watch mtv or however one might hear contemporary mainstream rock music. but i suppose i've become aware enough to know not to reference this band as a crappy contemporary band anymore.

what is it about fred durst that makes him so repulsive? it has more to do with the visuals than the audio, honestly. it's like visual bad breath; i recoil back from my monitor whenever he juts his head into the frame.

i mean the last time i had cable and watched it was probably around 2001–2002, so it would make sense that this band and korn would be my last reference points for this kind of thing.

this is the boringest limp bizkit thread on ILX. way to go, y'all.

p.s. it is more than ok to appreciate the music of Limp Bizkit

New Bizkit song here:
http://www.limpbizkit.com/whytry/

Straight to the gate in the sky?

http://www.limpbizkit.com/whytry/images/logo.png

sounds like it could've come out ten years ago

man, the tune's not even fun

the biggest impediment to Limp Bizkit having a critical realignment/comeback is their utter mediocrity imo. I think other nu-metal groups (Linkin Park, Disturbed, SOAD, Evanescence, Korn, even Staind) stand a better shot in a realigned musical climate. Actually, new Deftones album just leaked, and there's a new Papa Roach coming out this year, so many nu-metal will have a new shot at the limelight. I'd be most interested in a new Linkin Park album.

many=maybe

i'm down w/ Staind circa 2000-2003 & the first Evanescence record, along w/ some singles by other nu-metal acts. probably more stuff too that's not coming to mind atm

if Slipknot counts, Subliminal Verses is good

Linkin Park would've always been better without the lame rapping dude (who got pushed into the background in recent years). More Chester, less of that guy.

http://www.theprp.com/2010/05/11/news/limp-bizkit-add-ice-cube-method-man-and-redman-to-summer-tour-perform-on-the-tonight-show/

Oh, I'm just here for the opening act...

1001 Albums You Have To Hear Before You Die has both a Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park album in there.

just saying.

My thoughts on the return of Limp Bizkit.

Hahhahahhahaha "Introbra" and "Outrobra". Of course I guess ol' Freddie is beating critics to the punch by naming a track "Douchebag".

there was another thread already going about their return, but whatever. i just thought i'd share the cover-art for the new album. it's pretty hilarious.

http://www.limpbizkit.com/whytry/images/wallpapers/800x600.jpg

it makes me want to like them. someone in the band definitely has a sense of humour.

Art by Frank Ricotta.

Their DJ defined "inessential."

^ I love this.

the biggest impediment to Limp Bizkit having a critical realignment/comeback is their utter mediocrity imo. I think other nu-metal groups (Linkin Park, Disturbed, SOAD, Evanescence, Korn, even Staind) stand a better shot in a realigned musical climate. Actually, new Deftones album just leaked, and there's a new Papa Roach coming out this year, so many nu-metal will have a new shot at the limelight. I'd be most interested in a new Linkin Park album.

― Mordy, Sunday, May 2, 2010 12:31 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

can't agree with this at all, most of those bands are completely beyond any kind of critical reappraisal (exceptions being SOAD, who were always pretty well regarded among critics, and KoRn, whose early stuff could get grudging props for being ahead of their time but have released like 8 albums nobody cares about since then and will never make a good song again). the Bizkit have lolz and fun and camp on their side, and could be pretty easily be retroactively reclaimed as one of the good dumb fun acts of their era alongside, like, that Andrew W.K. album on all the end-of-decade lists.

Deftones totally already OK to like along with SOAD, but c'mon, Papa Roach and the Disturbed are never going to get a coolness pass.

Linkin Park also kind of got a pass by being a nu-metal boyband

deftones are totally ok to like because they are a pretty fantastic band that has made some great records

i think bizkit are already aware of their camp factor are are definitely parading it around this record, but just because they're campy now doesn't mean that they always were. i'm fairly certain they were having "fun" on chocolate starfish but they were also far too earnest about that material for it to be reappraised as camp or kitsch. there's no knowing sort of wink or nudge in their older music, as far as i can tell, which really prevents it from being reappraised as easily as you might think.

and yeah, it's sad that deftones got lumped in with all that garbage. especially when there's very little common ground between them and say a bizkit or a linkin park.

Evanescence also got something of a pass for having a hott female singer who was into Christina Aguilera

Despite Fred Durst's vocal opposition to Bush's policies, I don't feel a reappraisal can happen without GWB being "cool" again, too.

Art by Frank Ricotta.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:15 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

That Ricotta has gone way past its expiration date.

How long before it's OK to appreciate the music of Limp Bizkit?

ffs never. it will never be "ok" to appreciate the "music" of limp bizkit.

Evanescence also got something of a pass for having a hott female singer

You might want to check with an eye doctor, I've heard vision can get pretty bad around your age...

I could see limp bizkit becoming a kind of RickRoll of the 2020s where someone sends you a minority-report style virtual present (because in the future all gifts will be virtual and controlled by gestures) and you open it by flicking a thumb and surprise it is 'i did it all for the nookie' blasting out of a virtual raping teddy bear.

please don't let the teddy bear rape me in the future

"a virtual raping teddy bear"

Awesome.

lol

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_PoRm-D2BtRc/SezYPLBEfbI/AAAAAAAAAT8/-m-gg4XgmGU/s400/evil_teddy_bear.jpg
DID IT ALL FOR THE NOOKIE