Most shocking Rock & Roll Hall of Fame snubs (according to CNN.com)

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Aw man, just listen to 'Freewill' one time and come back to us.

heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

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heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

"Freewill" is the "just the tip" of Rush songs

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

I like arguing about the HOF, so I like this thread, but I've got to head out for a while...Alice Cooper's greatest songs were, more or less, "School's Out," "Eighteen," "Elected," "Under My Wheels," "Hello, Hooray," "No More Mr. Nice Guy," maybe a few others. I wouldn't put them in the same universe as the best dozen songs from Dylan, the Rolling Stones, Neil Young, or the Velvets. (The Sex Pistols comparison is complicated by how small their sample is, so I'd narrow the comparison to a half-dozen songs and make the same claim.) I realize that's kind of a boring, predictable conclusion, but boring and predictable can be true too. As for Alice's great music up to 1980, I think it's fair to say that, for most casual observers, Alice Cooper barely exists after "Only Women Bleed."

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Alice Cooper's greatest songs were, more or less, "School's Out," "Eighteen," "Elected," "Under My Wheels," "Hello, Hooray," "No More Mr. Nice Guy," maybe a few others

see...this is where your post starts to go off the rails. (not that those aren't great songs)

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I wouldn't put them in the same universe as the best dozen songs from Dylan, the Rolling Stones, Neil Young, or the Velvets.

(and i would)

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Everyone's picking on me, so I'm gathering up my toys and going home! (Would another boring old guy please get on here and help me out?)

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

kind of sad that no one is biting on my "Yanni is better than The Sex Pistols" troll bait

smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

shocked at kiss not being in tbh. growing up they were little more than some scary dudes on lunchboxes but..they were on a lot of lunchboxes iirc.

This is Dave Marsh's doing: "Kiss is not a great band, Kiss was never a great band, Kiss never will be a great band, and I have done my share to keep them off the ballot."

Can't say I disagree. And I like Kiss.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Aw man, just listen to 'Freewill' one time and come back to us.

― heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:13 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Done. It's alright. Not really my cup of tea, though. The guitar freakout about 3 minutes in was cool.

musicfanatic, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link

listening to "halo of flies" right now, god this is great

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

kind of sad that no one is biting on my "Yanni is better than The Sex Pistols" troll bait

It set off my "back away from the crazy man and don't make any sounds" instinct.

Religious Embolism (WmC), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I could just never get over the cognitive dissonance as a kid of collecting Kiss cards, comics and magazines for a year or more and then finally hearing what they actually sounded like. This tepid boogie rock is the sound monsters and demons make?!?!?!

heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link

kind of sad that no one is biting on my "Yanni is better than The Sex Pistols" troll bait

― smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:22 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

What would an insufferable music snob definitely NOT have in their collection?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

ILM in being too concerned about being perceived as "unhip" to respond to trollbait shocker.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

FUCK YOU DAN SEXY PISTOLS RUUUUUULES

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I think I speak for every human on the planet when I say we would be unreservedly thrilled to see Yanni inducted into the RnR Hall of Fame.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

yes, while tigers gave him a blow job

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

and F-14's screamed overhead

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I prefer to vote for Cheap Trick.

da croupier, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I could just never get over the cognitive dissonance as a kid of collecting Kiss cards, comics and magazines for a year or more and then finally hearing what they actually sounded like. This tepid boogie rock is the sound monsters and demons make?!?!?!

― heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:28 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, I felt that same let-down. My first KISS record was "Let's Put The X in Sex" too.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Also that weird german pop star (Haino? Heino?)
Google gives way more varied hits for "weird german pop star" than I thought there would be.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

By which I mean, "which only increased the tepidness", not that it was your first record also.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I think not until I heard Boredoms' Soul Discharge did I realize what I had imagined KISS would sound like.

heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

OK then who was the rockingest band to appear on scooby doo?
http://media.kissonline.com/non_secure/user/images/letters/20091019/051133_phantom_scooby_doo_unmask_1/large.jpg

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

pffft....KISS ain't got nothing on Jerry Reed. recognize.

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Did Don Knotts sing?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I think he sang in Incredible Mr. Limpet but don't remember a Limpet/Scooby crossover.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

honestly though i can't really get mad at bands not getting in the hall of fame.

it's not the "best bands", it's just "these are the kind of bands that get in the hall of fame."

like the hollies? i mean...they might as well just say "hey did your band exist from 1966 to 1969? were you semi-popular? you're in!"

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Until a year or so I would've agreed, but a friend played me about an hour of Hollies shit which straight blew my mind.

(Tho I guess you're not so much belittling the Hollies there)

heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Alice Cooper's greatest songs were, more or less, "School's Out," "Eighteen," "Elected," "Under My Wheels," "Hello, Hooray," "No More Mr. Nice Guy," "Ballad Of Dwight Fry," "Be My Lover," "Billion Dollar Babies," "Black Juju," "Caught In A Dream," "Clones (We're All)," "Dance Yourelf To Death," "Desperado," "Elected," "Generation Landslide," "Hallowed Be Thy Name," "Halo Of Flies," "How You Gonna See Me Now," "I Never Cry," "Is It My Body," "Killer," "Model Citizen," "Muscle Of Love," "Teenage Lament '74," "Welcome To My Nightmare," "You And Me," and maybe a few others. (Haven't pulled on Easy Action or Pretties For You in quite a while, I admit; somebody else can handle those.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Depeche Mode have sold 25 million more albums than Journey?? Like, in a world that includes North America? Hm, maybe it's cause Journey's hits are mostly on a couple of albums?

That DM number was for "albums + singles" though, not sure what the breakdown is there, but it's still a shitload of albums.

I'm still in the closet re: Rush, which is even more shameful on account of my being Canadian.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

xp And "Only Women Bleed" obviously (a major feminist statement!), but clemenza already mentioned that one.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Alice Cooper and Mott the Hoople were as good as The Stooges, Zeppelin and Black Sabbath, to name three other bands from the time that weren't taken seriously, but are unimpeachable nowadays. This will get sorted out eventually.

bendy, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

IRRC, the Marsh-edited Rolling Stone Record Guides gave low marks to Ziggy Stardust and Roxy Music before Siren, and not to much weight to Iggy, Mott or Alice. Dude did NOT like platform boots.

bendy, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Alice Cooper. Seriously, what the fuck?

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I assume the same Guide had little use for T. Rex as well? xpost

heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Can't remember. On further though, they he gave Mott a high rating.

bendy, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

IRRC, the Marsh-edited Rolling Stone Record Guides gave low marks to Ziggy Stardust and Roxy Music before Siren, and not to much weight to Iggy, Mott or Alice. Dude did NOT like platform boots.

The 1979 edition gave Bowie higher marks than the 1983 edition; the latter's Bowie entry was written by someone else (neither entry was by Marsh), and the highest rankings were 4-stars for Lodger and Scary Monsters.

The 1983 edition gave Mott The Hoople's Mott five stars. All The Young Dudes got four stars, and Marsh wrote their entry. He compared Mott favorably to Forever Changes.

Based on his entry for "Bang A Gong" in The Heart Of Rock & Soul, Marsh seemed to prefer Bolan to Bowie, but the (non-Marsh-penned) T. Rex entry in the RS Guide didn't give anything more than 3 stars (for Electric Warrior.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

there we go, thanks.

bendy, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I think Slade should get in to the HOF before T. Rex, tbh.

o. nate, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

in the US they're really just known for giving us quiet riot, so, uh, no

da croupier, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link

kinda surprised Heart didn't get in before Blondie

da croupier, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

plus nancy's married to cameron crowe, that has to count for something

da croupier, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

"Poison" and "Feed My Frankenstein" too, Chuck!

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

in the US they're really just known for giving us quiet riot, so, uh, no

Isn't T. Rex mainly remembered in the US now for that Power Station song?

o. nate, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

kind of sad that no one is biting on my "Yanni is better than The Sex Pistols" troll bait

Didn't set off my troll meter because it's true...

I say this as a huge John Lydon/Public Image Ltd. fan, naturally.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

"Some Like it Hot" is by Duran Duran

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

No, it's Power Station.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link

uh, I think I know my Duran Duran

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link


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