Ladies and gentlemen....the 1990s ILX SINGLES POLL RESULTS

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I hate to state the obvious, but you should really listen to it again without prejudice due to overexposure or bad memory associations or whatever. It's an urgent, catchy, passionate, really quite heartbreaking rock song.

I'm glad I never got around to doing the blurb I was planning on writing for "Hey Jealousy". It would've been an awful lot of passion and energy for a song that didn't even make the list.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

What does this even mean?

Sorry - bad English. I meant: we're fools for not voting it into the top 100, but even if we had done, it would only have been because we're obsessed with Timbaland.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

The folks who like D.I. really like 'em, yeah, but it's a small group.

apparently so - and I voted for two of those tracks; I imagine other DI voters did the same, so the actual # of different ppl who picked their songs is probably even lower than those totals suggest.

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm about to listen to 'Hey Jealousy' - hold onto your hats.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey Jealousy = classic, but only because I grew up with it

― Cheek0 (Cheek0), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry - bad English. I meant: we're fools for not voting it into the top 100, but even if we had done, it would only have been because we're obsessed with Timbaland.

OTM.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Did nobody vote for DJ Shadow's "High Noon" (my #1)?

― Cheek0 (Cheek0), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i voted for it, i think in my top 15

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

WHAT AN AMAZING SONG! Fuck the haters!

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I was vaguely aware of "Hey Jealousy" growing up (heard it first on my bro's MTV Buzz Bin CD, I think) but it wasn't until I heard it for the first time in about a half-decade last year that I slowly began to realize what a fabulous song it was.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

What's the best Gin Blossoms record to get??

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, Alba!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

New Miserable Experience is their most popular, and it's where you'll find that song.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

If you like "Hey Jealousy", get said album (New Miserable Experience). Check "Found Out About You".

― Cheek0 (Cheek0), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

the pleat-panted alba will soon be appearing in b-list indie films about early-'90s san francisco

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

TELL ME MORE ABOUT THESE PLEATED PANTS

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"Found Out About You" is actually the better song!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

TEH NU ALBA

http://dickiesonsale.com/pleatedpants.jpg

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously? The fucking Gin Blossoms?

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I voted for High Noon as well.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Before this gets out of hand I ought to clarify that I actually thought it was bad. Really, really bad. Sorry.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

you don't like candy-ass replacements rips?

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

*sigh of relief*

xpost

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i do.

x-post

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I was trying to think of something I liked about it, but all I could end up with was patronising conceits about driving a first car in suburban America.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

B-b-but the candy-assness is what made them better than The Replacements! I only liked The Replacements when they were hopeless pussies! (see "Within Your Reach" for the best example)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i find it weird that "beau mot plage" beat "energy flash". the final list looks really good (from the tracks that i know on it anyway), the hip hop especially.

― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think it made them better, Dan, but it gave them a purpose. The Replacements couldn't work up the same dippy enthusiasm for lightweight stuff that the Gin Blossoms did, cuz they weren't as dippy. I should buy that hits comp: best of both albums plus "Til I Hear It From You."

why is it that I tend to love negative reviews of stuff I like more than positive ones?

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

seriously, alba's line about an American's first car is terrific.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I should have developed it!

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I often think that a lot of music would have made sense to me if I'd grown up in the suburbs, or a small town, in America or otherwise. But then, as I said, I feel like I'm being a patronising twat and I shut myself up.

I do kind of envy that whole thing, though.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm guessing if Doug Hopkins (the suicide who wrote "Hey Jealousy") was also the singer, the song would have had more Westerbergian-ache. Instead Robin somethingorother sang it.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

did anyone else vote for "give it to you"?

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I would have voted for "High Noon" - maybe I didn't see it on the nominations list or something.

Out of curiosity, how many votes did "Gloomy Sunday" get? "The Diamond Sea"?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"Hey Jealousy" is nice but it's no "No Rain" or "Downtime".

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I would like to thank "Hey Jealousy" for not being "No Rain." I forget what "Downtime" is. Is that by the Tragically Hip? I ask because you are a canadian.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

So, who voted for Kylie?

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus Alba, you had me worried there!

― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Gear, how many votes did "Little Miss Can't Be Wrong" get?

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, was two princes nominated? I didn't see it...

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

oh man WHERE WAS NOVEMBER RAIN?!!?!?!?!?!?!!?!

NOVEMBER RAIN?!!?!?!?!!!!!

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't like the Gin Blossoms. The man wears capri pants. CAPRI PANTS. ON A MAN.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Some notes.

1. New Miserable Experience is their first and essentially only album. The main songwriter killed himself after being kicked out of the band (alcohol related issues, I believe) and though they still wrote some great songs ("Follow You Down," maybe "Day Job") afterwards it wasn't quite the same.

2. "Hey Jealousy" is by far the band's best, but "Follow You Down," "Til I Hear it From You," "Found Out About You" and "Lost Horizons" are all excellent as well.

3. The Replacements are a good comparison (especially "Within Your Reach"), and though I wouldn't go so far as to call the Gin Blossoms better (I might like HJ more than any individual Mats song but they're still the better band) I do think much of the urgency and sound is the same.

4. I don't see how the "Westerberg-ian ache" that Anthony talks about is at all absent from "Hey Jealousy." In fact, with the possible exception of "Unsatisfied," I think that Robin Wilson nails the Westerberg-ian ache better than Westerberg himself ever did. It's one of rock and roll's ultimate glory shots, and he sings it so passionately and so within an inch of myself, that I couldn't believe it was him and not Hopkins that was singing. That last part--"Hey Jealousy / 'coz she took my heart"--he just barely warbles it out, almost too emotionally overcome and embarrassed to say it out loud. His voice even cracks like Westerberg's.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

(Jeff does raise a good point there.)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

In fact, with the possible exception of "Unsatisfied," I think that Robin Wilson nails the Westerberg-ian ache better than Westerberg himself ever did.

NEIN!

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

#852 (out of 350)

SPIN DOCTORS - "Little Miss Can't Be Wrong"

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread seems to also really be reflecting the initial prejudices everyone seems to have against the Gin Blossoms for being so associated with shitty adult contemporary of the 90s, when in fact the song belongs far more to an 80s alternative lineage (especially the big Minneapolis bands of the time, Replacements, Huskers, Soul Asylum, etc.) It's the same reason that nobody takes the Goo Goo Dolls seriously, even though they also wrote one of the best songs of the decade with "Name" (and a couple other lesser ones that are still pretty great). Being played on your top 40 stations instead of your local college radio stations isn't their fault and should not be held against them.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

The Gin Blossoms are a very good argument to support the theory that the main reason I dislike The Replacements is because I was too young to appreciate them when I first heard them.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"Downtime" is by the Gandharvas, who are even more provincial than the Tragically Hip.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

pls move gin blossoms discussion here: Give it up for the fucking Gin Blossoms

k? thnx. bye.

― john'n'chicago, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

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