Spacemen and Loop, both great bands, no need to fight over it, Sonic... :)
― stephen, Monday, 5 May 2008 03:10 (sixteen years ago) link
There was some actual bad blood re: ripoff accusations! Elvis T. can tell the story.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 May 2008 04:39 (sixteen years ago) link
the hostility was mutual, as I recall in interviews back then...I wonder did they ever rumble?
― henry s, Monday, 5 May 2008 13:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Loop were awesome. whats the difference between the tracks "the nail will burn" and "the nail will burn (burn out)" from the Gildered Eternity? is it a joke?
― Zeno, Monday, 5 May 2008 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link
oh, it's prob a different mix (very slightly), a bonus track that doesnt appear as such in my cd version at least
― Zeno, Monday, 5 May 2008 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link
from the same area and sound, i waqs impressed by Strobe, like the psychedelic version of Loop. Sea Beyond the Sun was awesome.
― Zeno, Monday, 5 May 2008 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link
and also Sun Dial. Return Journey,what a record.
― Zeno, Monday, 5 May 2008 14:11 (sixteen years ago) link
main > loop
― am0n, Monday, 5 May 2008 14:21 (sixteen years ago) link
kinda interested in the heaven's end reissue as thats their only good one :3
― am0n, Monday, 5 May 2008 14:24 (sixteen years ago) link
shuddup
true, though.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Monday, 5 May 2008 14:43 (sixteen years ago) link
ok fade out is good too
― am0n, Monday, 5 May 2008 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't remember a band called Strobe at all.
― Bimble, Monday, 5 May 2008 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link
about Strobe:
http://www.psychedelic-music.net/pmdb/db3/db_band.php4?id=127
― Zeno, Monday, 5 May 2008 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link
The Spacemen 3 book touches on this in some detail - the story is that Hampson was working in the same studio where SP3 were recording at and helped himself to (for lack of a better description) SP3's public image. Instead of being just another band that listened to Dinosaur Jr., Sonic Youth, Husker Du, and all the latter day SST that everyone was namechecking, Loop recast themselves as "cooler" MC5/Krautrock/Suicide heads and got themselves a record deal and the cover of Melody Maker before SP3 did.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 5 May 2008 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link
'mother sky' cover is nice
― am0n, Monday, 5 May 2008 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link
I actually can't really think of any Loop I don't like!
― Spencer Chow, Monday, 5 May 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link
I suppose there are Spacemen 3 moments I like more, but they're far less consistent (or monotonous if you're not feeling very generous).
― Spencer Chow, Monday, 5 May 2008 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link
See, I don't get this. Everything I've heard by Main was boring (to me) ambient drone. Loop was droney, but they rocked. I got into Loop when I first started driving, and will for the rest of my life associate Heaven's End with riding around in my car - just blasting the shit out of that tape over and over.
xpost- never really got into Spacemen 3 either.
― rockapads, Monday, 5 May 2008 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link
It seems like Spacemen 3 were more well-liked, though, and I never could understand that. I found them pretty boring most of the time.
― Bimble, Monday, 5 May 2008 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link
They're both good, but Spacemen 3 has this ... personality. Loop's always been kind-of faceless to me.
― burt_stanton, Monday, 5 May 2008 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Loop's facelessness was part of the appeal! I love their strange anonymity, even Robert doesn't seem like he's entirely there.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 May 2008 17:42 (sixteen years ago) link
junkie != personality
― am0n, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link
i like a gilded eternity now. i want reissues
― am0n, Monday, 28 July 2008 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link
for those interested...
"Loop News
Dear All,
The Loop reissue program has finally found it's feet and there will new remastered versions of Heaven's End, Fade Out, The World In Your Eyes out on REACTOR in late 2008. All of these have been commercially unavailable since 1991 on any format."
down in the comments: "I will do my best and try and contact Clawfist, if they are OK with it, then it'll be on - but please be aware that it will ONLY be the Loop cover of Like Rats, the Godflesh cover will have to surface somewhere else, like on a Godflesh comp."
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=88715813&blogID=409573350&Mytoken=5712B5F8-7C93-42ED-8B6B4AC125C6EC7472521234
― flowersdie, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 10:29 (fifteen years ago) link
WELL HELL YEAH
also time to put my copy of loopflesh on ebay har har
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Holy shit they really are doing reissues??? Wow. Too bad A Gilded Eternity isn't one of them.
― Bimble, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link
LOOP announce re-issues of long out of print back catalogue REACTOR in conjunction with FORTE DISTRIBUTION is very happy to announce an overdue reissue programme of the long out of print albums / material by British band, LOOP.
Remastered from the original analogue sources, the first 2 releases, ‘Heaven’s End’ and ‘Fade Out’ will be released as double discs on 17th November (via Forte) and housed in a mini vinyl style card sleeve, reproducing the original artwork. Both albums will be also be made available digitally for the first time.
The band’s further two albums, The World In Your Eyes, and Gilded Eternity are currently being re-mastered for release next year with The World In Your Eyes being released as a 3 volume CD set, and Gilded Eternity as a double CD.
All due care has been taken to release everything that is available in some chronological order, though sadly a couple of tapes have been too badly damaged or lost to make a complete edition, but these will be the definitive editions...there won't be any 'special editions' to rip you off with, that's a promise.
Both albums will be released with re-mastered extra material from the relevant chronological time frame as the main album: The album in its entirety on CD 1, with the bonus tracks (including relevant Peel session material from the time) on CD 2, the bonus material will be available on CD formats only.
The LP versions of the albums will be released on a limited run as 180gr pressings in 2009.
― The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 September 2008 12:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Haha, I was just about to post that. But you didn't post the rest of the press release. ;-)
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A Few Words from Robert Hampson….For the past few days, I have been attending to the re-mastering of Heaven's End. You will be pleased to hear that all went very well, the original master tapes were in very good shape and with the aid of the genius who is Kevin Metcalfe, got everything to sound very ship shape for the CD reissue. In fact, it's probably never sounded so good.So, for the Heaven's End reissue, a 2 CD set will be issued with the original album on CD1. CD2 will feature the only true outtake from the H E sessions, Rocket USA. Also found from the archive are two different mixes of Soundhead and Head On which have never been released in any form before, and rounded up with the first John Peel Session.
I have tried to keep everything in these reissues relative to the time frame and situations they were developed in, chronologically speaking, so I hope you will forgive if some 'extra/bonus' material seems scant. But, in all truth, there really was not that much - we never did outtakes and the like, never had the time or the money for excessive studio times. But I can reassure you that all is being done to make everything that is there available and to sound the best it ever has for CD
Fade Out has also now been remastered and sounding very good it is too! Again, the reissue will be a two CD set, with Fade Out on CD1. CD2 will include the 2nd Peel Session and 4 different mixes of Fade Out material.
There were some 5 demos of Fade Out recorded at The House In The Woods studio, but I'm afraid the master tape of these has long since disappeared, I can't even track down a cassette copy. Robert Hampson August 2008
TRACKLISTINGSHEAVEN'S END - CD1 Soundhead Straight To Your Heart Forever Heaven's End Too Real To Feel Fix To Fall Head OnCarry Me
HEAVEN'S END - CD2Rocket USA Soundhead (1st Mix)Head On (1st Mix)Soundhead (Peel Session 1) Straight To Your Heart (Peel Session 1) Rocket USA (Peel Session 1)
FADE OUT - CD1 Black Sun This Is Where You End Fever Knife Torched Fade Out Pulse A Vision Stain Got To Get It Over
FADE OUT - CD2 Black Sun (Feedback) Torched (1st Mix)Got To Get It Over (1st Mix)This Is Where You End (House In The Woods Demo Mix no. 7)Pulse (Peel Session 2)This Is Where You End (Peel Session 2)Collision (Peel Session 2)Fade Out Guitar Loops I, II, III, IV, V (House In The Woods Recording June 88)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 September 2008 12:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Where is "Thief Of Fire" cover version band?
― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 15 September 2008 12:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Look in the post before mine -- that's due next year.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 September 2008 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link
(At least I presume -- three CDs worth for The World In Your Eyes sounds pretty extensive!)
psyched. i wish i knew what the deal was with the "prisma uber europa" 12" we have at my station was. what i'm really saying is i want the extra-long version of "burning prisma" to turn up on one of these discs.
― REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 15 September 2008 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link
I still love Loop. And Main, FWIW.
I recall that they released a Can cover as a non-album track, either as a single or a b-side. Anyone remember which song that was? I'd like to go track it down again.
― Pillbox, Monday, 15 September 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
mother sky
― (´・ω・)つ(・(・ (am0n), Monday, 15 September 2008 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link
thx
― Pillbox, Monday, 15 September 2008 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Aaaah, the wasp in a jamjar guitar tone on that version of Mother Sky. Beautiful.
― The World's Forgotten Girl (Masonic Boom), Monday, 15 September 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Who hasn't covered "Mother Sky" these days? The reissues should be good, though. Even though I won't buy them since I have the albums.
― ilxor, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 01:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Slight delay on the reissues: http://www.heavensend.org/news/index.html
September 13, 2008. Loop reissues delayedThe album were due for releases on October 8th, but now have been delayed to problems with the artwork. They will now be released on November 17th.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link
that better be some fine-ass muthafuckin' artwork!!
― henry s, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Robert talks Loop with the Quietus
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 November 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link
A telling bit re: the breakup:
There’s reasons I don’t want to go into it. It was very difficult to move into Hydra Calm [Main’s first release], and what became the Main stuff. That’s where I wanted Loop to go and I was finding it very hard to think about that in a rock band format. It’s very hard to tell a drummer who is a very very good drummer not to drum.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 November 2008 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Comments hilarious.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 24 November 2008 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link
All y'all saw this, rite?http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=159265653
Friday, October 10, 2008
A GUILDED ETERNITY REISSUE
A Gilded Eternity Re-Master
Hello all,
Please find the full track listing for the A Gilded eternity re-mastered cd set - due out in early 2009
CD 1
VapourAfterglowThe Nail Will BurnBloodBreathe Into MeFrom Centre To WaveBe Here Now
CD 2
Free 7" Giveaway Versions:The Nail Will Burn (Burn Out)Shot With A Diamond
Peel Session Three:From Centre To waveAfterglowSunburst
House In The Woods Demo:
Arc-LiteBreathe Into MeVapourThe Nail Will BurnBe Here Now
OK, news on the very extensive The World In Your Eyes Re-master to follow soon
Hope this finds you all well and swell weekends to the lot of you
as ever...
R.
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Tuesday, October 14, 2008
THE WORLD IN YOUR EYES REISSUE
The World In Your Eyes Re-masteredDear All,
Notes:All re-mastered from the original sources with the exception of Collision/Crawling Heart/Thief Of Fire/Thief (Motherfucker), sadly due to the original masters going AWOL - or I suspect, STOLEN.But, they still sound a damn sight better on CD than they did, so not all is lost.Same with Pink Moon and Cinnamon Girl - they have also suffered the same fate, but as in everything, you can't have it always your own way.
Still waiting on the Like Rats master, but we are told that it's safe - just 'somewhere'...and NO! Justin Broadrick does not play on it.Spinning parts 1 & 2 are the edits of the split side 7" - we wanted to sound like Television Little Johnny Jewel crossed with Fripp on Heroes...bless us in our naivety.Arc-Lite (Radiated) is from the original 7" B-Side - Daniel Miller wanted us to sound more like NEU!... bless him in his belief.
Head On from the 1st Loop demo was beyond saving, due to damage to the master - but how many more versions of that fucker do you need?
OK - uptightanouttasight
Best
16 DreamsHead OnBurning WorldSpinning (Parts 1&2)Brittle Head GirlDeep HitI'll Take You There
1st Loop Demo - House In The Woods:Brittle Head GirlBurning World
Spinning (Spun Out) Good Feeling Compilation
CollisionCrawling HeartThief Of FireThief (Motherfucker)Black SunCircle graveMother SkyPink MoonCinnamon Girl
CD 3
Arc-Lite (Sonar)Arc-Lite (Radar) Daniel Miller remixSunburstArc-Lite (Radiated) Daniel Miller remix
Prisma Uber Europa Promo Live 12":AfterglowGot To Get It OverBurning World
Like Rats (Loopflesh) ?
OK, that's that...
― NickB, Monday, 24 November 2008 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link
What with this lot, the MBV stuff, and then World Dom in the pipeline, surely the God reissues can't be far behind.
― NickB, Monday, 24 November 2008 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link
The bonus track pairings with the original album tracks are so odd! However, I'm not complaining and look forward to hearing everything (although I may play them in different order). Also, "Arc-Lite (Radiated)" is AWESOME.
― Spencer Chow, Monday, 24 November 2008 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link
heaven's end and fade out reissues sound great
― eman, Monday, 22 December 2008 03:13 (fifteen years ago) link
esp. the guitar loop tracks on fade out disc 2
― eman, Monday, 22 December 2008 03:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Super wanting. Esp Gilded Eternity.
― Bored American Aerospace Defense Command (BORAD) (contenderizer), Monday, 22 December 2008 07:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Apparently we'll have to wait till Feb/March or thereabouts for them though. At least, that's the last I heard.
― krakow, Monday, 22 December 2008 08:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Any further info on A Gilded Eternity or The World In Your Eyes? Love the first two reissues...
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 1 March 2009 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link