Oasis - Classic or Dud?

Sure that wasn't any monthly music mag since 1997?

classic for first two albums and associated b-sides, pretty boring since and getting steadily worse.

don't get me wrong, still better than radiohead though.

no i think you'll find that was the pretenders.

Mark, you're right: it was Q. And yes, unfortunately it was May 2008:

http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/qlistspage3.htm#Q%20Readers%20Best%20British%20Albums

So, why the seachange at this point? 20 something Oasis fans in the mid 90s turning into 30something Q readers in 2008?

Anyway, dud.

1. Oasis – Definitely Maybe
2. Oasis – (What’s The Story) Morning Glory
3. Radiohead – Ok Computer
4. The Beatles – Revolver
5. The Stone Roses – The Stone Roses
6. The Beatles – Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Heart Club Band
7. The Clash – London Calling
8. Keane – Under The Iron Sea
9. Pink Floyd – Dark Side Of The Moon
10. The Verve – Urban Hymns
11. Radiohead – The Bends
12. The Beatles – Abbey Road
13. Keane – Hopes And Fears
14. Oasis – Don’t Believe The Truth
15. Dépêche Mode – Violator
16. The Smiths – The Queen Is Dead
17. Queen – A Night At The Opera
18. Arctic Monkeys – Whatever People Say, That’s What I’m Not
19. The Beatles – The Beatles
20. Sex Pistols – Never Mind The Bollocks…
21. The Beatles – Rubber Soul
22. Oasis – Be Here Now
23. Muse – Absolution
24. Duran Duran – Rio
25. Blur – Parklife
26. Coldplay – A Rush Of Blood To The Head
27. Manic Street Preachers – The Holy Bible
28. Muse – Origin Of Symmetry
29. Led Zeppelin – IV
30. Pink Floyd – The Wall
31. The Libertines – Up The Bracket
32. Coldplay – X & Y
33. The Who – Who’s Next
34. Muse – Black Holes And Revelations
35. Amy Winehouse – Back To Black
36. Dépêche Mode – Songs Of Faith And Devotion
37. Stereophonics – Word Gets Around
38. The Prodigy – The Fat Of The Land
39. Pulp – Different Class
40. Radiohead – In Rainbows
41. David Bowie – Hunky Dory
42. Arctic Monkeys – Favourite Worst Nightmare
43. Manic Street Preachers – Everything Must Go
44. Pink Floyd – Wish You Were Here
45. Pet Shop Boys – Behaviour
46. David Bowie – Ziggy Stardust
47. Coldplay – Parachutes
48. The Rolling Stones – Exile On Main Street
49. Joy Division – Unknown Pleasures
50. The Rolling Stones – Let It Bleed

Nothing wrong with that.

TWO rolling stones in the top 50? and neither of them compilations? scandalous

Dépêche

they're from basildon, not bordeaux.

odd list. or maybe i'm odd.

The Prodigy – The Fat Of The Land

Still the token dance album of choice, ten years on? Wowzers.

my mate from rochdale moved to boston (briefly) in the late 1990s and sent me a mixtape called "the land of the fat".

wonder where i put it? it was bloody good.

7. The Clash – London Calling
8. Keane – Under The Iron Sea
9. Pink Floyd – Dark Side Of The Moon

SEQUENCE DOES NOT COMPUTE

Q is dumb.

that list is terrifying, it's like nothing's changed since 1997

who are these "readers" voting for the same 10 albums ten years and counting??

at least keane came along and revolutionised things after 1997

Maybe it's made up, like Ant 'n' Dec and the Blue Peter cat.

Even by Oasis' standards this is some pretty horrible cover art:

http://static.nme.com/images/08714_154326_digoutyoursoul.jpg

Sorry that was meant to be an image above!

Trying again:

http://static.nme.com/images/08714_154326_digoutyoursoul.jpg

it's blindingly shit, isn't it? really. i can't believe a band this clodhopping is not just allowed to exist but is actually still lauded in some quarters.

there was a moderately amusing piss-take on idolator or the quietus or something the other day, but i can't be arsed looking again.

According to this, the designer responsible also did the covers for XTRMNTR and Broadcast's Ha Ha Sound, both of which I liked. That is truly dire though.

That really looks like a Pollard collage for one of his umpteen side projects.

One of the worst covers I've seen in my life.

Great new song/video: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K09GFqeT_5g

lolz

first 20 seconds are good, then some fat yank midget fucks it up stupid yanks

I saw Oasis live tonight. A friend who is a much bigger fan than I am decided graciously to take me. I'd like to share my impressions, as someone who hasn't bought an album of them since um...well, Heathen Chemistry, which I don't remember jack shit about. And I have never seen them live, either, though I own the "...There & Then" VHS and remember quite enjoying it for awhile.

Okay well first of all, on the positive side, I thought Liam was dressed impeccably. He had a white scarf that sorta led 3/4 of the way down his chest over a black shirt and I thought that was fantastic. Black leather jacket, just down to the waist, nothing too fancy. Jeans, with chains hanging out the back pockets. Totally Paul Weller hair (or I dunno, Beatles hair, I couldn't really quite describe it...a bit more over the top than Paul Weller hair I think). I just thought it was bloody great men's fashion. Top gear or whatever you're supposed to call it in Brit-speak.

Other positive sides: even if they didn't do the song I most wanted to hear ("Roll With It") they did do "Champagne Supernova" which I especially loved. And one of their new songs (of about three they played) did sound really cool and psychedelic and they had the visuals to prove it. I don't know what song it was (my friend says the album isn't out yet) but I'd like to hear it again.

On the negative sides: the song they announced as their new single seemed dark and uninteresting to me. Couldn't figure out where they were going with that at all. Fuck me if I know the name of it. Also, I didn't find their song choices from the past to be particularly wise. "The Masterplan" by Noel acoustic? Um...I can think of about 5 other songs I'd like to hear him do acoustic. "Slide Away"? Yawn. Yeah "Supersonic" was okay I guess...

I dunno. It's Oasis, what do you expect, right? I still marveled at the sight of good ol' Andy Bell from Ride on bass. My friend said he thought they still had Zak Starkey on drums, but it turned out not to be true.

It does get a bit tiring the way they appropriate other people's songs for their own. The drumming for one of them (I thought it might be one of the new ones but I'm not sure) sounds exactly like the start of "Tomorrow Never Knows". And what's up with fucking "Cigarettes & Alcohol" ripping off T-Rex? But you know, it's Oasis, what do you expect? I don't think they're a BAD band, but you do have to cherry pick with them.

Oh wait! One more thing I wanted to mention was I was surprised the venue was packed, it was a pretty big place. I wouldn't have expected that many people (in America, or Seattle) to show up. It was quite odd. I mean, Oasis don't really have much of a following in America now. I don't know what it's like in the UK...

They still have a pretty large and loyal following over here, though I don't know who all these people are. Probably Northerners.

They seem to have as rabid a fanbase as Michael Jackson, judging by the Teletext letters page.

Oh the Teletext letters page. I used to love that.

Belouis Some is NOT a one-hit wonder he is a HUNK and will be around long after manky Owen Paul has shot his bolt!
Jenny, The Wirral

They're still brilliant, Nick.

Bimble - drummer now is Chris Sharrock ex The Icicle Works, The La's and Robbie Williams!

Oh really? Wow! That's neato.

Oasis are not at all impressive as a rock and roll band. They lack the drive of rock'n'roll, plus Noel Gallagher sucks as a guitar player. They cannot really do much more than turn the guitar amps up to 11, and that just isn't enough. Also means they are really bad live.

They are an excellent pop band though. Because Noel Gallagher particularly back in the 90s used to be a fantastic pop songwriter. Thus, their pop albums ("Morning Glory", "Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants" are their best ones, while when trying to rock, as on "Heathen Chemistry" and even "Definitely Maybe", they failed somewhat more.

"Definitely Maybe" was OK, I mean, no album with such fantastic songs as "Supersonic", "Live Forever" or "Slide Away" could possibly be a bad album. But it is still overrated. "Morning Glory" is underrated though. It is fantastic, and it will remain fantastic, as a glorious classic pop album that helped kick some life into the good old melody again after years of the melody being terribly underrated as the most important element in music.

wasn't Ryan Adams on the bill at the Seattle concert too? I would be surprised if Oasis could have filled the place themselves, but then again they probably haven't been here since the 90s so maybe it was a long time coming for some people. I was on the list for it but backed out after I decided I just didn't care enough anymore...plus doesn't Liam sound like shit these days?

Yes! You are right about the Ryan Adams aspect of it. I'd forgotten that because we didn't go in the main part of the venue til after he quit (I kept thinking he sounded like U2 from outside, though strangely enough). Yes, that probably had a lot to do with it because on my way driving there I remember thinking "more folks will probably be there for Ryan than Oasis". But still there seemed to be a lot of enthusiasm for Oasis...a lot of kids younger than myself with Oasis T-shirts...it all seemed really odd to me, but then maybe they hold that stuff more precious than I might because when Oasis were in their most popular prime, these folks would have been less than 20 years old.

It's not true that they haven't been here since the 90's, though - my friend that I went with said he did see Oasis play here a couple of years ago but they were much further up the road in a smaller town (Everett) and he said there weren't many people there, which doesn't surprise me.

I don't think Liam sounded like shit, he did a fine, professional job. It all seemed a bit business-like, though. I had rather hoped Liam might say something to the crowd, but he didn't. Noel did at one point - he said "sounds funnily Australian, that" about some song he was doing that the crowd was singing along. I wasn't really sure what he meant by that but it seemed funny at the time.

I agree with Geir that Morning Glory was their highest point. I feel bad about saying that though because there was a lot of stuff on the Masterplan compilation that I particularly enjoyed. Strange that they didn't do "Live Forever" or "Acquiesce", though. Now that would have been real nice.

Also when Noel made the "Australian" remark, I wondered if he was commenting on the accent of the audience, for the general non-region specific American accent of Seattle folks is much closer to Australian accents in many ways than any Brit ones, I've always felt. I remember when I was in England someone thought I had an Irish accent, though, so I don't know what to think of that. :)

"Definitely Maybe" is a fucking great album, and sounds nothing like the bullshit that followed it.

overheard in the office just now:

"i love oasis."
"they're just a bunch of fucking brits, man, that get mad at each other."

fuckin love the man.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cMKwI6j-alg/SLVjawAgwOI/AAAAAAAAAM0/1jsKgDIsi8k/s400/omar-s.gif

I love 'em. Classic through and through. Not high-echelon classic like Beatles or Floyd, but second-echelon classic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=211&v=rfNqyjZcleI

^ Oasis music video DVD commentary highlights, the best 10 minutes of my day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-s3o-sbxYs
James Fry: Sons of the Stage, Oasis & other supernovas - First photo shoot of Oasis !!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjU3PilUkAAcUiA.jpg

Made me laugh.