i mean at least i am going to. i feel like i'm arguing with sarah palin
― how is "babby" horribly formed????? (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Carole King wrote "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow" when she was 18. Stevie Wonder wrote "Uptight" when he was 16. Age is a red herring here, folks. If you want to argue there's something inherent about Swift particularly, that's fine, but falling back on ZOMG SHE'S A TEENAGER WHAT COULD SHE POSSIBLY KNOW ABOUT LIFE will get you exactly noplace.
― El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
wtf kinda sense does that make, you listen to the sarah palin of music
― iatee, Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
carole king and stevie wonder didn't limit their subject matter to songs about being a teenager. her age comes up because it's all she fucking sings about.
― iatee, Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i think we're the sarah palin in this equation, kev
― HOOM gang (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link
uh, my itunes top played artists are john cale, smog, jacques brel and the beach boys
Hey, how about those deep, meaningful, engaged-with-the-world lyrics Mike Love and Brian Wilson wrote when they were 19 and 20 amirite?
― El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link
if carole king wrote 'will you still love me after 3rd period' and stevie wonder wrote 'uptight: about homework I don't want to do', people might like those songs less
― iatee, Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link
taylor should cover porpoise song imo
― he often deploys multiple browsers and constantly replies to himself (velko), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link
i think age gets brought up so much w/r/t to t.swift because a) she mentions it all the time ihs b) most of themes are articulated in p teenage way and c) theres a p omnipresent teenage quality to her music - its brash emotionalism & its immediacy &c - that makes it hard to avoid talking abt.
i mean this is more time than i ever wanted to spend thinking abt taylor swift so w/e its all subjective.
oh & my most played album in itunes is nachtstrom's 17 songs after midnight. so yeah
― (Head) (Lamp), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link
haha beach boys lyrics are awful, even when they're good! they had some other things going for em. taylor swift don't.
― iatee, Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link
― iatee, Thursday, March 4, 2010 5:09 PM (5 minutes ago)
these rappers only rap about "pimpin and bitches"
― how is "babby" horribly formed????? (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Dude, she's a teenage girl. Teenage girls tend to lead pretty insular lives. I'm okay with her sticking to that for now, because she does it pretty well.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
those guys aren't rappers, you should prolly listen to more old music kev xp
― iatee, Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Next people are going to me telling me that I should check out Metric for some really intense female songwriting with depth, as i'm just fronting with this enjoying things that are obviously good business. Confusing place ILM.
― Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link
http://freshlyservedhiphop.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/cam.gif
― how is "babby" horribly formed????? (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link
i feel that .gif so deep in my heart
― HOOM gang (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link
frankie valli sang about being a teenager
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link
xp dude ive been looking for that for so long, i have cranky dorks on ilm to thank for finally finding it
― how is "babby" horribly formed????? (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link
idk i think "lyrical depth" requires a distance & nuance that a 20 yo or 18yo or w/e the fuck she was when she wrote those songs doesnt really have.
well i said she was honest and artful, which doesn't necessarily mean "deep." i don't actually think she's all that "deep," but otoh patti smith is "deep" and some of her stuff is way the hell more embarrassing than any taylor swift songs. i think taylor swift writes exceptionally good pop songs about the experiences of being a teenager. that's plenty for me.
― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link
DickieV Last week I saw Gladys Knight in concert n tonight= 'm going to see Taylor Swift-that is versatility baby just like Evan Turner!
― HOOM gang (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Friday, 5 March 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Uh oh, time for another poll!
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 March 2010 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link
so this is basically about discomfort with people expressing extreme amounts of enthusiasm isn't it
― call all destroyer, Friday, 5 March 2010 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link
it's cool lampatee--sometimes ppl weird me out when they do that too
Forever and Always wuz robbed people
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 5 March 2010 03:26 (fourteen years ago) link
DickieV Taylor Swift was Awesooome Baby! half a minute ago via mobile web
http://i33.tinypic.com/2r4hl3m.jpg
― HOOM gang (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 March 2010 04:07 (fourteen years ago) link
dickie v's opinions abt most things > dickie v's opinions abt college bball
― johnny crunch, Friday, 5 March 2010 04:10 (fourteen years ago) link
there are lots of Taylor Swift songs I haven't heard, but I do know that if I'm at a place where I'm practically forced to listen to country music radio and I hear "Love Story," then I'm pretty happy. And if I hear "Tim McGraw" (the song) then it's been a good fucking day...
I would probably characterize "You Belong With Me" as enjoyable fluff, but I don't think it's a totally inappropriate candidate for song of the year...I like "Daniel" and "Obsessed" (wz this even nominated?) a little more, and "Paparazzi" a little less...
― ha! (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 5 March 2010 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link
has anyone itt heard of the intentional fallacy
― noted schloar (dyao), Friday, 5 March 2010 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link
pretty boomin band imo
duly noted, noted scholar
― suddenly unemployed (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 5 March 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I just listened to White Horse for the first time...that's a pretty affecting song...
for all the haters who are like "it's ok for teenage girls, but be real, bros..." it's possible that you are letting the slick, produced mainstream pop-country sound and the accordant teenage wholesome good-girl image distract you from the songwriting smarts that are clearly there...
― search: wolf-kidult man (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 5 March 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
http://naturalismo.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/bros.jpg
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 5 March 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
plus, you never know, maybe there was actual teenage girls who post on here. it would be pretty crazy i know, everyone knows girls don't REALLY like music, not proper music like us guys. AM I RIGHT GUYS? YEAH! WHOO!
― Jamie_ATP, Friday, 5 March 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
what?
― call all destroyer, Friday, 5 March 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
xp my bad, wasn't trying to say that there wasn't...
plz don't start another ILM Census.
― search: wolf-kidult man (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 5 March 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
*registers teenage girl sockpuppet*
― he often deploys multiple browsers and constantly replies to himself (velko), Friday, 5 March 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link
(how is it that Lamp says that teenage girls don't have real thoughts and I get shit?)
― search: wolf-kidult man (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 5 March 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link
But... I thought Emily's Cheese was already on the site? :(
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 5 March 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link
on my first listen-through, this is pretty d-_-b
― noted schloar (dyao), Saturday, 6 March 2010 01:17 (fourteen years ago) link
parts of 'the way i loved you' sound like sk8er boi. and the opening to 'tell me why' sounds like that alicia keys song 'like you'll never see me again'
― noted schloar (dyao), Saturday, 6 March 2010 03:07 (fourteen years ago) link
I got so bothered at how the J Newsom thread was just a giant carnival of internet yuks despite not liking that album all that much, and I kind of <3 Swifty but I always suspect her heterosexual grown man fans of having a fantasy about watching their girlfriends die in childbirth
― A B C, Saturday, 6 March 2010 06:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Trying to stay one step ahead of the patriarchy has ruined my life, guys
― A B C, Saturday, 6 March 2010 06:12 (fourteen years ago) link
chill out take a drive in a truck
― sbing is the only love (Lamp), Saturday, 6 March 2010 06:39 (fourteen years ago) link
ABSENTMINDEDLY MAKIN ME WANT U
― A B C, Saturday, 6 March 2010 06:41 (fourteen years ago) link
A B C how did you peek into my secret heart and find out my desirs?
― noted schloar (dyao), Saturday, 6 March 2010 06:53 (fourteen years ago) link
:kanyeshrug:
― A B C, Saturday, 6 March 2010 06:58 (fourteen years ago) link
I kind of <3 Swifty but I always suspect her heterosexual grown man fans of having a fantasy about watching their girlfriends die in childbirth
?????
― Tim F, Saturday, 6 March 2010 07:26 (fourteen years ago) link
title track got fewer votes than i thought it would!
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Saturday, 6 March 2010 08:22 (fourteen years ago) link
tswizz :3
― Are Slimes the Jews of monsterdom? (cankles), Saturday, 6 March 2010 08:43 (fourteen years ago) link