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Well, then, Rocket Man...Please feel free to post a Matchbox 20: Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad and Hated
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― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

ya read my mind ...

There's enough hate to go around. If you start a "Matchbox 20: Name your reasons why are they so bad and hated" thread, they will come.

― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Matchbox 20 has good solid traditional song structure though, where DMB relys more on emotion and a touch of jambandystuff to loosely drape over their song structure. This does allow them more complexity, but MB20 has had more solid radio hits due to their traditional structure.

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I wonder what would happen if someone were to post a "Matchbox 20: Name your reasons why are they so great and respected" thread...what would happen?

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Creed : Name Your Reasons Why Are They So Bad And REALLY Hated

Matchbox 20: Name your reasons why are they so bad and hated

― Rocket Man, Friday, 29 August 2003 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

for some reason, i don't feel like posting the "Hooray!" image macro this time.

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 29 August 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Let us not lock this thread EVAH!

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 29 August 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, but every time we post, we make it harder and harder and harder for the Creed and Matchbox 20 threads to catch up...

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 30 August 2003 03:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave Matthews Band are the worst band ever. With the worst vocalist ever. If DMB fans hate Creed its because they are jealous of a great singer. Do not compare creed to dmb. Creed rock and DMB suck.

― Ricky, Saturday, 30 August 2003 05:07 (twenty-two years ago)

No. I think you've been misinformed. You see, even though a lot of people don't like DMB, but it wouldn't be because they think they suck. They're all irrefuably talented musicians, which would make your statement entirely false.
Saying Creed rocks would also be incorrect, because uh...they don't.

― Allison (Allison), Saturday, 30 August 2003 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)

ya know, i hate me some DMB, but, i think that is eclipsed by my total and utter hatred of scott stapp...
at least i don't hear as much DMB as i used to but creed still manages to be everywhere...
maybe it's just pittsburgh.
home of the mullet that never left.

― eedd, Saturday, 30 August 2003 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Scott Stapp is a great singer. As pointed out above Dave Matthews sings like a muppet.
Dave Matthews Band are awful, as the amount of postings to this thread proves.

― Creed Fan, Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave Matthews Band are far more original than Creed. Far superior musicians and far better in concert. At least dave doesnt get so stoned that he cant remember the words and the band dont get sued by 'fans'. Creed are the worst band in the world then its Pearl jam. Scott Stapp is just an Eddie Vedder clone.

― DMB Fan 666, Monday, 1 September 2003 02:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Scott may have a nice voice, but it's also extremely impassive. Dave has about a billion styles of singing, all of which represent different moods or feelings. The Creed guy only has one fucking sound that reminds me of gurgling. Don't compare Creed to DMB. Ever.

― Allison (Allison), Monday, 1 September 2003 02:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Scott Stapp is a far superior singer to Dave Matthews. Creed rock a lot harder than DMB ever could. I cant imagine anything more boring than a Dave Matthews Band concert. Except maybe for a Dave Matthews solo concert.
Will he have bongo solos?

― Jonty, Monday, 1 September 2003 02:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Im surprised theres a Creed : Name Your Reasons Why Are They So Bad And REALLY Hated thread. I didnt know that there was internet connections in trailer parks now. Most Creed fans ive met are stupid jocks who's knuckles drag along the ground , they are unwashed, have mullets and are illiterate.
If comic book guy was here he would say "Creed: worst band ever"
(Wish I could've put a picture up with him saying that)

― Dennis, Monday, 1 September 2003 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.btinternet.com/~michaelkelly8/cbg.gif

― Slump Man (Slump Man), Monday, 1 September 2003 03:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Does rocking harder=superiority? Now, there's a new concept.
Also, his long hair just doesn't do it for me. Makes me sick, actually.
(no offence to Ned, his is hot)

― Allison (Allison), Monday, 1 September 2003 03:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I just read this entire thread, from beginning to end. Can anyone here tell me why I did this?
Oh, and Creed sucks.

― totalbastard, Monday, 1 September 2003 07:07 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread, as with analysis of soil stratum, reveals the essence of ILM: musical pedantry, jokes about gay men and unadulterated Creed hate. Don't we just love it?

― JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Monday, 1 September 2003 09:25 (twenty-two years ago)

But who exactly do you all hate more. Creed or Dave Matthews Band?

― U2 Fan, Monday, 1 September 2003 12:51 (twenty-two years ago)

(no offence to Ned, his is hot)

Aw, well thank ya.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 September 2003 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Creed claim to be christians. Christians & Jocks & Mullets. Says it all really.

― DMB Fan, Monday, 1 September 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I have not heard very much Dave Matthews, and therefore can't really comment. I feel you should all know this.

― Shmuel Marmorstein (shmuel), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 00:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave Matthews Band To Rock Central Park

The day after Dave Matthews' releases his RCA solo debut, "Some Devil," the Dave Matthews Band will play a benefit show in New York's Central Park that is expected to draw upwards of 100,000 people. Full details of the Sept. 24 event will be announced Friday (Sept. 12).

America Online is sponsoring the show and is using it to hype the newest version of its software, AOL 9.0. The concert, which RCA will tape for an immediate DVD and CD release, will be held on the park's Great Lawn and will raise funds for the AOL Concert for the Schools! program, which will benefit The Fund for Public Schools of New York City and the Music Resource Center in DMB's homebase of Charlottesville, Va.

Tickets are free and can be obtained through AOL and DMB's official fan association, the Warehouse. Donations of at least $25 are requested and all seats are general admission. The band is also offering Warehouse/fan club members "preferred viewing section passes," which includes access to a backstage barbecue picnic and an exclusive viewing area on the Great Lawn

"Some Devil," which features guest appearances from regular Matthews collaborator Tim Reynolds and Phish's Trey Anastasio, will kickstart a busy season for Matthews-related releases. According to a source, a CD/DVD of the Central Park show will be released in November, followed early next year by a three-DVD/six-CD collection taped at the band's three-night September 2002 stand at the Gorge in George, Wash.

― Old Dave Matthews Fan From Before He Was Popular, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

a CD/DVD of the Central Park show will be released in November, followed early next year by a three-DVD/six-CD collection

..Always leave them wanting more....

― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 09:22 (twenty-two years ago)

And I bet he sues the stores that sell bootlegs of it. Bastards.

― Sammy J, Thursday, 11 September 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

new John Mayer - Heavier Things

New Subthread here-
Taking Sides John Mayer Vs Dave Matthews Solo !

I say John Mayer. I also heard his single did very well in the UK, Something DMB has never done.

― Forbidden Planet, Friday, 12 September 2003 01:24 (twenty-two years ago)

We dont want either. We never ever gave you ANYONE as bad as these guys. So you send us John Mayer !!!

― The UK, Friday, 12 September 2003 06:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave Matthews Band is the GREATEST band ever. There is so much to listen for in his songs. He is not like that crappy rap stuff were it all sounds the same. There is so many different types, of music in the band. They actually have the right to call themselves a band. There is so much tallent between Dave, Stefan, Carter, Leroi, and Boyd. No other band right now has as much talent as those guys. If there is I would like to know who. Just by the variation in their music should tell you how great of a band they really are.

― Mark, Tuesday, 16 September 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate them because my entire neighborhood has been shut down so they can do a concert!!! You'd think Dave Matthews was the President.

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Well...he should be.

― Allison (Allison), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I wonder what his policy is on Iraq.

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)

"hike up your burqua a little more, show your oil to me"

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

His political views are in here somewhere, probably in numerous bloody piles from being picked apart and criticized by the fiends of ILM. They're far more practical than Bush's if I remember correctly.
I think all earnings from that concert go to NYC schools or something, so the cause may be worthy of having your neighborhood shut down for a night.

― Allison (Allison), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Not really, the schoolkids here are assholes.

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Well maybe some more cash in their pockets will change that, no?

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

ally otm about nyc schoolkids being assholes

― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 21:17 (twenty-two years ago)

There is a superfluous "nyc" in that sentence.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, this is a big benefit for NYC schools (though I'm not sure how the money collected is going to compare to the $50M Bill and Melinda dropped for charter schools last week). and it's also a massive promotion for some new AOL campaign. ah, synergy.

Dave did put a vague, Rodney King-ish statement opposing the war on his website a few months ago.

(as something of an "old" DMB fan - from the minarets era if that means anything to our googlers - and ILX irregular, one day I'll post something here. but not today.)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha, yeah, cos the million that AOL Time Warner is donating for this concert is really going to find its way into making schools a better place for kids and not into the pockets of NYC bureaucrats, not at all!

FYI the amount of manpower etc being used up to block down all the damn streets just in case--GASP--a nonticketholder for the Dave Matthews event tries to get near the park to--GASP--hear Dave Matthews is probably negating a similar amount of money out of the city coffers. There is absolutely no fucking reason for the amount of security going on right now. There are concerts in the park ALL THE TIME and this is the first time I've ever seen this.

I'm kind of hoping that this bullshit was the call of AOL Time Warner and NOT Matthews, because if Matthews insisted on this, he's a dick. You can't even enter the park unless you go all the way up or all the way down, because, again, god forbid a nonticketholder (to a FREE event, wtf?) hears the, uh, dulcet tones of the Dave.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 25 September 2003 00:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Well...he should be [elected president].
I promise, If elected, to make legalize both contact highs (*crowds roars with appoval*) and date rape (*crowds pauses, and a few frat boys roar with appoval*)

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 25 September 2003 10:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway I'm not knocking their concert really, it was a joke but if people are going to be all bloody serious about it, you might as well know the truth about the whole shenanegans. It was mentalism! I could get into the UN easier than I could've gotten into the park yesterday.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 25 September 2003 12:05 (twenty-two years ago)

There are concerts in the park ALL THE TIME and this is the first time I've ever seen this.

To be fair, they really don't have full scale rock concerts on the Great Lawn very often at all. This isn't anything like Summer Stage, you know.

How was it a few years back when Garth Brooks played there?

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 25 September 2003 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Garth Brooks played there? I obviously had no difficulties as I don't recall it happening.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 25 September 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I bet there was a bit of confusion in NYC last night. Heard something of 90,000 people, largest concert ever. Yikes.

― Allison (Allison), Thursday, 25 September 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, there was a massive Garth Brooks show there back in the late 90s, it was a really big deal. They have classical concerts on the Great Lawn fairly often, but the enormous pop concerts come only once in a while. The notable mega-shows that they've had in the past on the same scale have been Paul Simon, Simon & Garfunkel, Diana Ross, and Barbra Streisand.

There's no need to get too whiny about it. It's just a special occasion.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 25 September 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah Ally stop harshing people's mellow

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 25 September 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I could get into the UN easier than I could've gotten into the park yesterday.

The reasons for that scream for a thread. Anyhoo, mix free music and a huge space with nice weather, and you'll always get mentalism. (God forbid if you were actually trying to get exercise, there!)

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 25 September 2003 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

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Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

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