Search and Destroy : New Order

Destroy: NEW ORDER

But many more could be named, especially in the first category.

destroy: blue monday

Brotherhood side one

Ceremony (the 7" is much better than the version on Substance)

Temptation (the original 12" is much better than the version on Substance)

Sister Ray (live in Rio, from 'Like A Girl I Want You to Keep Coming' one of John Giorno's crappy beatnik compilations)

Destroy:

Republic

the shit cd quality of Brotherhood, Low-Life and Technique

Destroy: (the best of) New Order [English version]

BUT I sort of half-dislike it too, because all the people I know who think "Age of Consent" is their best song are people who despise all of the dancier stuff.

Discuss.

It's probably because Joy Division is such good summertime music.

* Destroy: "State of the Nation" in any and all its mutations/versions... it's so tacky/sucky

* Search "Don't do it" and "Bleachboy"

* Ssearch "Rest of NewOrder" * Destroy "Best of NewOrder"

I am so sure that there are people who will say "That dude Ci got it all wrong!"

By the way people... English is my third language... how do you Anglonauts say it anyways? Is it "Search and Destroy" or "Seek and Destroy." I opt or the "Seek and Destroy."

Cheers

Ci

Also search: 1981/1982 (brilliant), "Doubts Even Here," "Dreams Never End," "The Village," "Regret," the melody (or the Frente cover) of "Bizarre Love Triangle"

Destroy: the vocoder track on PCL, the "three miles to go" song, "Blue Monday," the rest of Republic. Joy Division did "Ceremony" better. I could live without "In a Lonely Place."

so so true... sorry, so late. just wanted a check in the tally column.

... at least that's what I think it's called...

knew it had 'Point' in the title. Kind of epic filmic New Order with a groovy baseline.

Thank you.

Don't give me that, you crazy punk. You cannot live without the versions of "Temptation," "Ceremony," "Blue Monday," "Thieves Like Us," "The Perfect Kiss," "Bizarre Love Triangle" and "True Faith" on the first disc, among other things -- the second disc gilds the lily, making it even more so all around. :-)

Keith, you are certifiable. The only album New Order has released which is better than _Get Ready_ is _Movement_.

http://www.neworderonline.com/mmedia.asp

Search: Get Ready, and about everything else especially Technique just for Dream Attack, their very best song.

Destroy: As It Is When It Was on Brotherhood, a piece of shit with the most inconstant rhythm I have ever heard. And I don't like Technique's Run, it's simply irritating. The remixes of the Low Life songs on Substance pale to the originals.

I've only heard technique and i like it. an excellent record.

DESTROY: the original versions of "Temptation" and "Confusion", the version of "Confusion" that's on the Blade soundtrack, that song with Billy Corgan on Get Ready, The Rest of New Order, and disc three of Retro.

destroy: everything after "regret", including from track 2 of republic.

(in less charitable moods i would say destroy everything after "ceremony", but that's to judge them by its unfairly high standards)

Destroy: "World in Motion," "Shell-Shock."

I don't know as I'd destroy anything, but the songs that just sit on the I & IV chords are the only ones I care much about.

(The text that is; I’m assuming the download links are all broken at this point.)

FLACs on slsk

How did they get to be FLACs? Are they upsampled?

Dunno, but they go all the way up to 20kHz which I thought was indicative of lossless compression

those are transcodes then but kind of pointless as the originals were only released in 256kbps AAC per the original post and my own archives: https://web.archive.org/web/20110101063642/http://neworder-recycle.blogspot.com/2009/08/recycle.html

actually there is a post in which 50£ specifically explains why flacs were not released: https://web.archive.org/web/20120217044822/http://neworder-recycle.blogspot.com/2009/10/flac-vs-aac.html

they never posted the FLACs to the blog, but they do exist as per the comments so it's conceivable that someone on Soulseek is sharing them... although more likely they just converted the AACs to FLAC, which is harmless as long as you know transcoding the FLACs to any lossy format will make them sound worse.

As of last week, the release date of Low-Life is closer to the end of World War II than it is to today. I feel old.

xp oh i didn't realize that! i suppose that the overlap between people who were friends with 50 pound and people who share on soulseek must be pretty high. the FLACs, if real, are a bootleg of a bootleg then..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zxqiz00KAI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAYGrdBa5Eo

wow they're digging up some deep cuts this tour. great that they're playing more from technique at last but i'd never even heard of this get ready-era b-side before lol

i'm gonna be soooo mad if i don't get to see them in a few days due to the flooding here

My fav New Order was the US mini l.p. of 12"singles. I now have most or all of it as part of the Movement 2CD set.
I do like some later stuff but that mini l.p. is pretty sublime to me.

I bought that as a cd single in Canada.

good show tonight, wonderful to see them at last. sumner's vocals were patchy of course but he can still sing "bizarre love triangle" surprisingly well - that, "ceremony" and "temptation" were all fantastic of course. i'm baffled they didn't play "the perfect kiss" or "regret" though.

it was nice to hear "vanishing point" and "love less" too at least, though i have no idea why they dug up "player in the league". "state of the nation" was a weird one that even had guitars in its backing track despite cunningham standing around barely playing anything all song? it's not like he or sumner couldn't have played that guitar part

i hadn't ever paid attention to the lyrics to "be a rebel" before but now i have to respect that 'be a rebel, not a devil' is up there with sumner's most inane work

Not sure I'd ever heard or heard of "Player in the League" before, but just listened and that song is not particularly good, even as far as b-sides go.

yeah it's a b-side to "here to stay" so i'd never even heard of it before this week

at least they didn't play "rock the shack" like someone kept yelling out for

Unrelated note: The Western Works and Cargo Studios demos of Movement-era songs are SO GOOD.

even when new order play a cool back catalogue song now i really struggle to feel it? perhaps it is partly barney’s new singing voice but also everything feels pretty flat around him - obviously their 80s gigs were often kind of hanging by a thread technologically which added an unpredictable element - but i watched a bit of stuff from 2003 last night (the first time i saw them) and for all his faults hooky really is adding a lot, not only with his bass playing but also second frontman vibes

obviously that was more than 20 years ago, sigh

anyway last time i saw them they very improbably played the one song that i most wanted to hear and it was… a bit disappointing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf9aF8bVQws

i don't think they had "love less" quite worked out - the lead part wasn't that chiming acoustic guitar like on the studio version so it didn't have the same feeling, but it was still cool to hear

the only thing that really felt flat last night music-wise was "state of the nation", due to being way too reliant on the backing track. they had plenty of energy otherwise.

& sumner's singing was patchy of course but he was better than i expected really

good to hear! i am still very glad i saw them both the times i did (once with hooky and once with gillian) - i wonder if there will ever be a full reunion

went looking for live versions of round and round last night - love the bass in this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cpEaI93oZ8

Peter Hook and the Light definitely have a vibe these days, they just seem like they're having a great time up there and you can feel it

xp Hook was open to a one-off had the HOF inducted them the last time they were nominated. (If things work out, we may get three reunions this time around that may never happen again.)

I think Hooky has been making noises for a while that he’d be quite keen to rejoin

in sydney last night they didn’t play either of the Technique songs that have been in rotation, booo - happy to have skipped it - but i saw pj Harvey on the outdoor opera house stage the night before and NO by the harbour on a warm sydney night woulda been fun for sure

Saw the the line up minus Gillian but with Hook back in '98 (they hadn't played live in 5 years which seemed like an age at the time and was considered a really big deal) and this was a highlight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImCFJm42qI4

Yeah that one was on the peel session they did in 98, which was ace. Do check it out

wait, I thought Gillian did play at Reading? I own that DVD.

yeah she didn't retire from touring until get ready was released

Can't believe these guys ever had anything to do with a dweeb like Billy Corgan.

The five years between Republic and Reading 1998 seemed like an eternity back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD11s85EQKc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt4_zyhT6s

an audiophile gives his take on various new order releases over the years

https://darko.audio/2026/03/new-order-on-cd-from-factory-originals-to-steven-wilson-remixes/

nice, thx for sharing

It wouldn't be New Order if the catalog wasn't a mess.

The labels have to stop crushing everything - who the fuck cares if you have to raise the volume? It's completely stupid to make something sound squashed, congested and really shitty just because some moron wants everything to be "loud" without ever raising the volume.