Photek: Classic or Dud?

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in 2004 photek goes techstep jungle

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

he's playing tonight in chicago

tricky disco (disco stu), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

um and i can't decide if i should go or not

tricky disco (disco stu), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

go, he is top of the dubplates chart:
http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/dubplatefocus/

Title: Baltimore
Label: Photek Productions
Artist: Photek

Pounding vintage Bluenote biznizz picked up by Dom & Roland, Tech Itch, Teebee and Friction and all courtesy Photek.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Ni-Ten-Ichi-Ryu

I have this track on an MTV drum n bass compilation I inherited, and it's okay. I've had a couple MRI's done and some of the sounds are similar (though I still think the MRI experience is more intense).

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 4 September 2004 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

ten months pass...
just listening to modus and this is kinda boring, esp when he does that modern update of 70s jazz fusion, he turns it into 90s jazz snoozion (see what i did there?!). the techno parts are better, and the drum n bas bits are even better, but this isnt as good as the best bits of timeless. not as exciting or visceral.

lethalfizzle, Saturday, 9 July 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

Modus Operandi = overlong and EXTREMELY boring (like almost every other 96-98 dnb record.) The 30 minute EP I remember as being pretty good, but I've not listened to it in ages. Either way, yeah, Photek's best moments

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 9 July 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

"rings around saturn" was great, but mostly due to the pharaoh sanders sample

Ô¿Ô (eman), Saturday, 9 July 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

hmmm i think modus operandi is much more visceral than timeless! its nothng but piles of asian drums on top of one another. nothing to do but twitch like a jellyfish on a butcher block. i defn think it could've been mastered louder (i think i complain about this on another thread).

photek = sort of underrated at this point. remember, for a while he was pretty much the only person not using a palette of straight amen and think breaks.

vahid (vahid), Saturday, 9 July 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

as i grow older his tracks with robert owens sounds better and better.

pale scrawny white guys are always always always classic

harshaw (jube), Saturday, 9 July 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

remember, for a while he was pretty much the only person not using a palette of straight amen and think breaks.

Hahaha this might be why people aren't holding him in higher esteem.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

(long xpost to myself)Apparently you can't put a less than sign in html haha. Anyway what I meant to say was Goldie's best moments >>>>>>> Photek's best moments.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

everything he released up to modus is genius

strng hlkngtn, Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

search: studio pressure's "relics"

strng hlkngtn, Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

"Hahaha this might be why people aren't holding him in higher esteem."

I think the main reason was that he came off as so dry and serious.

I don't remember "Relics", but "Presha III" and "Jump (MK2)" are both pretty good.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

the big difference between pre-and-post-modus photek is that the "metalheadz scene" wasn't so defined so that you'd get "relics" showing up on cd's like this: http://www.discogs.com/release/126827

strng hlkngtn, Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

modus is great y'all be trippin'

latebloomer: the Clonus Horror (latebloomer), Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

Classic without reservations. He also does film score work now, he did some pieces in Animatrix, the Italian Job and others.

jeffery (jeffery), Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Goldie's best moments >>>>>>> Photek's best moments.

Goldie's best moments often = Rob Playford's best moments. Whereas Photek's best moments = Rupert Parkes imagination.

jeffery (jeffery), Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if that equation balances.

jeffery (jeffery), Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

"Goldie's best moments often = Rob Playford's best moments."

Yeah yeah yeah and it's all Nico Sykes too and blah blah blah. Maybe Rupert might have benefited from an engineer.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Rupert would have benefited most from tighter deadlines.

jeffery (jeffery), Saturday, 9 July 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

(long xpost to myself)Apparently you can't put a less than sign in html haha. Anyway what I meant to say was Goldie's best moments >>>>>>> Photek's best moments.

wrong and insane

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 9 July 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

Modus is still fucking awesome. It's cold and sterile and you're not meant to dance to it and all you're meant to do is succumb to the repetition. It's the SAW II of Jungle, but way emptier, which is the point. Bless Goldie, but he's Fuzzy Felt to Photek's Satin.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Saturday, 9 July 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

wait what are goldie's best moments?

oops (Oops), Sunday, 10 July 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)

"jah the seventh seal" and.... um.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 10 July 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)

...mother

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 10 July 2005 01:29 (twenty years ago)

All the early Reinforced Rufige Kru singles, the Metalheadz singles, the good half of Timeless ("This Is A Bad", "Still Life", etc.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 10 July 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

the hidden camera ep is just fucken killer. modus is a bit of a grey out.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 10 July 2005 04:29 (twenty years ago)

Funnily enough I tend to think that Photek's early stuff is a little bit overrated as well - yeah "Relics" is awesome but then so much of the jungle from that period was. Ironically (as against jed's assessment) most of the Studio Pressure stuff I've heard is just very good amen tracks! In terms of beat programming I'd place that stuff behind 4 Hero, Foul Play, Neil Trix, Dillinja...

A lot of his stuff is fantastic though, yeah. I'd say his golden period was '95-'96 - ie. the golden age of the "Metalheadz" sound but just before Modus Operandi.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 10 July 2005 06:16 (twenty years ago)

I always wish he'd done more stuff like "Consciousness" - luscious gentility suddenly spiraling into psychotic beat mayhem. That, Dillinja's "Angels Fell" and Peshay's "The Vocal Tune" form a miniature trio for me - deadly bourgeois vibes...

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 10 July 2005 06:22 (twenty years ago)

oh well, 4hero's best stuff >>>> everyone else in jungle

strng hlkngtn, Sunday, 10 July 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

deadly bourgeois vibes...i smell a neighborhoodie!

strng hlkngtn, Sunday, 10 July 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Tim, i didn't say anything about Studio Pressure on this thread. FWIW i agree with your assesment of those releases, from what i've heard, but it's a different kettle of fish altogether to my favourite Parkes stuff; not better just more to my taste. lots of depth and space and, most of all lots of emptiness. i love the way the sounds all seem as if they're zooming out of a void.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 10 July 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

nothng but piles of asian drums on top of one another. nothing to do but twitch like a jellyfish on a butcher block

wow, probably the truest thing i ever said on ilm

some dude called "the law" assembled this all photek 93-97 mix. makes a pretty damn good case for photek's brilliance.

01.. Photek - Third Sequence - Astralwerks [1996]
02.. Studio Pressure - Jump Mk II - Certificate 18 [1993]
03.. Goldie - Still Life (Photek Remix) - Razors Edge [1995]
04.. Studio Pressure - First Sequence - Photek [1994]
05.. The Truper - Vol 1 A - Street Beats [1994]
06.. System X - Mind Games (Dub Mix) - Entity [1994]
07.. Photek - Consciousness - Metalheadz - [1994]
08.. Photek - The Hidden Camera (Static Mix) - Science [1996]
09.. Photek - Ni Ten Ichi Ryu - Science [1997]
10.. Studio Pressure - The Water Margin - Photek - [1995]
11.. Photek - One Nation - Sanctury [1997/2007]
12.. Phaze 1 - Natural - Timeless [1995]
13.. Aquarius - Drift To The Centre - Looking Good [1995]
14.. Code Of Practice - Infiltrate - Certificate 18[1995]
15.. The Truper - Vol 2 B - Street Beats [1994]
16.. The Sentinel - Pulse Of Life - Basement[1994]
17.. Therapy? - Loose (Photek Remix) - A&M [1995]
18.. EZ Rollers - Rolled Into One (Photek Remix) - Moving Shadow [1996]
19.. Everything But The Girl - Single (Photek Remix) - Virgin [1996]
20.. Photek - Rings Around Saturn - Photek [1996]

go geddit here: http://drumandbassmixes.com/thelaw.htm

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 27 March 2008 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

is burial the new photek?

tricky, Thursday, 27 March 2008 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

yes ... sort of

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 27 March 2008 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

photek >>> burial

Jordan, Thursday, 27 March 2008 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

he's a little bit bigger relative to the scene than photek was, and he's more "outside" the scene too

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 27 March 2008 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

i want to say he's the new squarepusher but squarepusher was actively adversarial w/ drum and bass, whereas burial likes dubstep & 2-step, he's not trying to tear it down w/ something new.

and again, i think he crossed over more than squarepusher did. squarepusher probably sold less albums than goldie.

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 27 March 2008 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

Rhythm & Sound ^ (Hyperdub + Skull Disco) * (2008 / 1996) = (Metalheadz + Photek Productions) ^ Basic Channel

Kaliova, Thursday, 27 March 2008 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

thanks to this thread revive i went on a search for my copy of "something else...the bleeps tune" and i can't find it. i wanted to hear it again before coming onto this thread to proclaim its greatness.

tricky, Thursday, 27 March 2008 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

that equation is breaking my brane

tricky, Thursday, 27 March 2008 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

2008/1996 = breaks?

tricky, Thursday, 27 March 2008 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

mind, one of my favorite things about 2008 is the return of breaks in non-traditionally steppy musics

tricky, Thursday, 27 March 2008 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe... I was just writing gibberish really. Try listening to T-Raenon if you've got a headache. Hearing that for the first time, while reading an interview with him, where he mentioned that Black Dog's Bytes was his favourite record, made me a fan forever.

Kaliova, Thursday, 27 March 2008 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

yeah the vibe of bytes is pretty much untouchable.

i think a digital music player needs to be invented where you can just drop in equations like that and then it plays them for you.

tricky, Thursday, 27 March 2008 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

i'm going to echo mr dan perry from upthread and point out that BDP and detroit techno refs made a lot of people dislike him!

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 27 March 2008 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

gibberish or not it is quite appropriate on a photek thread. mr science of breaks himself.

tricky, Thursday, 27 March 2008 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

why would that make people dislike him?

tricky, Thursday, 27 March 2008 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

That album is worth it just for Mine To Give

I know, right?, Thursday, 14 August 2008 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

"Goldie's best moments often = Rob Playford's best moments."

Yeah yeah yeah and it's all Nico Sykes too and blah blah blah. Maybe Rupert might have benefited from an engineer.

-- Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:52 (3 years ago) Link

"Goldie's best moments often = Rob Playford's best moments. belong to 4 Hero"

X-101, Thursday, 14 August 2008 16:38 (seventeen years ago)

six months pass...

t'raenon sooooooooooo nice... my least favorite photek record for a long time but i am loving it these days.

DONKEY CANCER in action (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 20 February 2009 14:03 (seventeen years ago)

Has this been posted before? All Photek mix courtesy of Bailey on BBC 1xtra. Fine stuff - some of which I'd never even heard before.

http://www.mediafire.com/?yufyqxitmm0

Truper - Volume 2 (Street Beats)
Studio Pressure - Jump Mark 2 (Certificate 18 Records)
System X - Mind Games (3 rd Eye)
Aquarius - Drift To The Centre (Looking Good)
Studio Pressure - Fusion (photek)
Aquarius - Dolphin Tune (Good Looking)
photek - Rings Around Saturn (photek)
photek - Say It (Prototype)
photek - Consciousness (Metalheadz)
Studio Pressure - Water Margin (photek)
photek - One Nation (Prototype)
photek - Seventh Samurai (photek)
photek - Still Life (Remix) (Razors Edge)
photek - Ni-Ten-Ichi-Ryu (Science)
photek - Knite Vision (Science)
photek - Something Else (Bleeps Tune) (photek Recordings)
photek - Tuesday (Dub)
Inta Warriors - Inta (Special Forces Remix) (Prototype)
photek - Aleph 1 (Science)

sam500, Monday, 23 February 2009 05:50 (seventeen years ago)

four years pass...

huh, I am really enjoying Solaris

it only took 13 years for me to get to this point

AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

I know the best little Vietnamese cybercafe...

how's life, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

i haven't felt like listening to Solaris since it came out

Koné 2013 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

I only played it because I remember the overall reaction to it being similar to the backlash reaction to RAM; unsurprisingly I am enjoying it a lot more than RAM so maybe I'll be in the mood to really dig that album in 2026

AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

Why did you check it out (at the time and now) Dan I thought you disliked Photek?

Tim F, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

What? I loved Photek up until Solaris came out; I bought "The Hidden Camera", "Ni-Ten-Ichi-Ryu", Modus Operandi and Form and Function when they were released. I think you are confusing me with someone else?

AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

i dug it out, it's better than i remembered. it's weirdly all over the place tho.

Koné 2013 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

the main reason I was not into Solaris was because I was so into the doomy drum n bass stuff he'd been doing before and was not at all in the mood to hear his take on loungy progressive house music

AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

Okay must be confusing you with someone else from back in the old days.

Tim F, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

i've still never heard this because i loooooved photek and haaaaated house music at the time.

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

I haven't talked about Photek all that much here, I admit, but I am pretty sure he was among the names I would regularly drop on a.m.a as someone I loved (I'm sure I talked about Squarepusher more, though)

AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah one of the old regulars used to complain that i'd put them onto Photek with a description that sounded more exciting than the music actually was and I was like I mostly preferred Source Direct anyway.

Tim F, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

haha OTM re: Source Direct

AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

oh wow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyKuzY52hWU&feature=player_detailpage&list=PLUdmMccuxH2HJrCrFvMUa6g2VlyPvOpTI

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

Brilliant! He's such a lad/geezer/geek.

Never really stopped listening to KJZ and Mine to give since they came out, 17 and 13 years ago. Wowsers!

inventionsforjohn, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:03 (thirteen years ago)

Really wish there was a 10 minute version of the track Solaris.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV1MoazXFNM

I think my favourite Photek aliases are Studio Pressure for the smoother stuff and Truper for the all-out layered chopped Amen/Helicopter assaults.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:27 (thirteen years ago)

fitting that the Photek doc clip there starts out like a car commercial

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:45 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

"Knightvision" aside (it's just okay in a moody 1998 2-step dancing thinkpiece kind of way) the "originals" half of Form & Function is pretty much unf***withable, amirite?

Esp the "Rings of Saturn" --> "The Water Margin" --> "UFO" final victory lap stretch.

Tim F, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:29 (eleven years ago)

yes sir

tho i pretty much love all of F&F tbh

Chimp Arsons, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:55 (eleven years ago)

Oh yeah the remixes are mostly fantastic too.

I was just thinking in the context of the discussion upthread, if someone wanted to "get" Photek, listening to the back half of Form & Function would be a much better option than listening to Modus Operandi (though I like MO too).

Tim F, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 22:07 (eleven years ago)

yes, forever. F&F was the only Photek record i owned and i listened to it to death. still sounds amazing.

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 22:10 (eleven years ago)

was just bumping MO like 30 mins ago

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 22:10 (eleven years ago)

watch straight ahead off my flashlight ... there it is again

the late great, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 22:39 (eleven years ago)

watch straight ahead off my flashlight ... there it is again

Classic. If for that alone. It spookily moves me ,everytime

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 23:29 (eleven years ago)

six months pass...

THIS TUNE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAZmerb5gS4

Should get around to a Photek POX.

Tim F, Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:33 (eleven years ago)

four years pass...

Tentatively scribbled this ten down a while back.

Aquarius - Drift To The Centre
Studio Pressure - The Water Margin
Photek - Complex
The Sentinel - TouléPleu
The Truper - Volume 3 B
Photek - Rings Around Saturn
Photek - The Hidden Camera
Photek - UFO
Aquarius & Tayla - Soul Searching
Photek - Consciousness

Thank You (Fattekin Mice Elf Control Again) (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 10:44 (six years ago)

God how I love Photek

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:31 (six years ago)

two years pass...

If I hadn't seen the record with my own eyes I'd have thought this was a joke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3AVoBbzMsw

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Friday, 17 December 2021 18:30 (four years ago)

one year passes...

Going back to Form & Function, this is still *the* Photek album for me. I got it on cd from Best Buy in high school, I don't know if I had somehow heard of him or was looking for drum & bass albums and chanced upon it. Still sounds incredible.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 27 March 2023 15:20 (three years ago)

one year passes...

Really enjoyed Philip Sherburne's Modus Operandi revisit, and going back to that record:
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/photek-modus-operandi/

Also I'm finally old enough to appreciate Solaris, especially if I just think of it as some house record. The blown-out quality of the kicks and basses is nice, and the dubbiness.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 20:15 (two years ago)

I just rediscovered his 2012 DJ Kicks mix , so nice

StanM, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 21:28 (two years ago)

ooh, sounds like a good listen for the commute home

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 22:04 (two years ago)

Pitchfork piece was great. There’s a lot of electronic music from the mid/late 90s that I loved desperately at the time. These days a lot of it feels… of its time. I don’t want to say they’ve aged poorly but I just can’t separate them from their era (Squarepusher, u-Ziq, Bukem, Roni Size and others). All these years later this particular Photek album still captivates me. I always put it on when I really need to get into a state of intense focus (i.e. writing to deadline).

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 11 April 2024 01:30 (two years ago)


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