― retort pouch (retort pouch), Thursday, 18 September 2003 04:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 18 September 2003 04:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― willem (willem), Thursday, 18 September 2003 06:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
Oh man, I love that song - apparently it's based on Wordsworth or some such geezer
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 September 2003 10:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Susan (Susan), Thursday, 18 September 2003 13:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
You better believe it boy - primetime BBC1, Saturday evening(?), 1969(?), much the same set up as similar shows presented by Cilla Black, Dusty Springfield, Lulu though i don't believe any of those ladies ever sang "My Death".
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 September 2003 13:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
I wish I was at home right now so I could download it all right away.
― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 18 September 2003 18:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
Bookmarked it yesterday, I might do some downloading over the weekend but only after I clear everything up on my computer some.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 September 2003 19:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
1. Free Again2. I Get Along Without You Very Well3. I Think I'm Getting Over You
http://mapage.noos.fr/ckt02/rare.zip
― retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 19 September 2003 02:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 19 September 2003 02:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 19 September 2003 04:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 05:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Friday, 19 September 2003 05:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 September 2003 05:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Friday, 19 September 2003 05:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 19 September 2003 06:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 19 September 2003 08:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 19 September 2003 08:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 19 September 2003 11:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 19 September 2003 14:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
Marcello - thanks, looking forward to that.
― retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 19 September 2003 16:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― David. (Cozen), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
RJG, I don't know if you're kidding or not, but if you haven't heard the original version of "Maria Bethania" by Caetano Veloso, you should really really download it. I love it to death. Walker's version is good, but disappointingly faithful to the original.
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 19 September 2003 21:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Friday, 19 September 2003 21:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Libby, Monday, 22 September 2003 02:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
Libby
― libby, Monday, 22 September 2003 03:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 22 September 2003 05:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― David. (Cozen), Monday, 22 September 2003 17:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Thursday, 25 September 2003 05:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Cedric, Friday, 3 October 2003 06:16 (twenty years ago) link
― harveyw (harveyw), Friday, 3 October 2003 08:27 (twenty years ago) link
there's something off about the idea of a scott box set. how does one excerpt "tilt" anyhow?
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 3 October 2003 09:26 (twenty years ago) link
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scottwalker/message/162
If it's real, it sounds more interesting than the box set!
― proggist, Friday, 3 October 2003 10:04 (twenty years ago) link
Amateurist, I'd still be delighted to burn discs for you and propel them across the ocean. Just send me your address.
Anyway, it seems the MP3 downloads are down, "temporarily" but they have been replaced by a video clip from Scott's TV show which is well worth watching. HAHA look at his hair.
― retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 4 October 2003 01:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean (Sean), Saturday, 4 October 2003 01:50 (twenty years ago) link
― retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 4 October 2003 01:59 (twenty years ago) link
― retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 4 October 2003 02:42 (twenty years ago) link
The albums are back for download.I made a single ZIP file for each album.Each ZIP file is protected by a password.All I ask of you is to send me an e-mail in order to get the Password for the Zip file, and not telling it. I promise fast replies !It's the only way I found to keep an eye on the downloads without losing control...I am glad you can all get the tracks.RegardsCedric
http://www.ckthual.net/scott
PS/ Regarding the video : I wish I had the same hair every morning... ;o)
― Cedric, Monday, 6 October 2003 10:55 (twenty years ago) link
― dan (dan), Monday, 6 October 2003 20:08 (twenty years ago) link
try again
― dan (dan), Monday, 6 October 2003 20:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Erick H (Erick H), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 18:42 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 20:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Cedric, Thursday, 9 October 2003 15:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 24 October 2003 17:05 (twenty years ago) link
― retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 27 February 2004 04:53 (twenty years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 05:02 (twenty years ago) link
Review by Dave Thompson The 1990s' rediscovery of Scott Walker, hitherto the Pop Star That Time Forgot, was one of the most gratifying events of the mid 1990s. No man blessed with a voice like that, taste like that, talent like that, should ever have been consigned to the creaky oblivion of oldies radio. But one needs to tread carefully when plunging into the cult. Even at his best, and particularly at his most recent, Walker can be an excruciatingly difficult taste to acquire. Move into the early 1970s mid-point of his output, and oftentimes, it's simply excruciating.Never regarded among Scott Walker's finest efforts, and a resounding flop when it first appeared in 1971, Til The Band Comes In is, retrospectively, the most shocking of all the singer's early albums. His first four, after all, are dramatic slabs of MOR-noir, crucial experiences for anybody anxious to discover Brel, Bergman and a taste for truly surreal pop tones; by their standards alone, surely album #5 should have traveled even further astray?It doesn't. Two tracks culled for the It's Raining Today compilation, "Thanks For Chicago Mr James" and "Joe," are this album's sole concessions to such matters as reputation. A year earlier, the BBC gave Walker his own TV series, with the assurance that he would concentrate his tonsils on ballads and standards. He fulfilled the brief admirably, and released a soundtrack album to prove it. Unfortunately, Til The Band Comes In suggests he never got the sacharine out of his system. He even brings TV guest Esther O'Farim back into the action, but morbid curiosity and an incomprehensible fondness for "Cinderella Rockefeller" are surely the only reasons anyone could want to check out her solo contribution to the set.There is a reasonable rendering of Roy Orbison's "It's Over," aptly closing the album on a merciful note, but while Walker's first four albums remain essential listening, and the TV LP at least has its moments, 'Til The Band Comes In is best left waiting at the stage door. Some "lost classics" were lost with good reason. ― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:47 (twenty years ago) link
Never regarded among Scott Walker's finest efforts, and a resounding flop when it first appeared in 1971, Til The Band Comes In is, retrospectively, the most shocking of all the singer's early albums. His first four, after all, are dramatic slabs of MOR-noir, crucial experiences for anybody anxious to discover Brel, Bergman and a taste for truly surreal pop tones; by their standards alone, surely album #5 should have traveled even further astray?
It doesn't. Two tracks culled for the It's Raining Today compilation, "Thanks For Chicago Mr James" and "Joe," are this album's sole concessions to such matters as reputation. A year earlier, the BBC gave Walker his own TV series, with the assurance that he would concentrate his tonsils on ballads and standards. He fulfilled the brief admirably, and released a soundtrack album to prove it. Unfortunately, Til The Band Comes In suggests he never got the sacharine out of his system. He even brings TV guest Esther O'Farim back into the action, but morbid curiosity and an incomprehensible fondness for "Cinderella Rockefeller" are surely the only reasons anyone could want to check out her solo contribution to the set.
There is a reasonable rendering of Roy Orbison's "It's Over," aptly closing the album on a merciful note, but while Walker's first four albums remain essential listening, and the TV LP at least has its moments, 'Til The Band Comes In is best left waiting at the stage door. Some "lost classics" were lost with good reason.
― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:47 (twenty years ago) link
I agree, I think Til The Band Comes In represents a pretty dramatic drop in quality. I love pretty much everything on Scott 3 + 4, but Til The Band Comes In is really all over the place, and I think the only things I really love are Little Things and The War Is Over. That whole smooth jazz aesthetic must have sounded pretty out of step in 1970!
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 29 March 2019 12:26 (five years ago) link
Actually I'm listening to it right now and am actually enjoying the covers - in a library music kind of way - more than most of the original Scott stuff. Stormy has got some good bass going on!
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 29 March 2019 12:38 (five years ago) link
“Joe” should have been included on the boy child comp.
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 29 March 2019 12:51 (five years ago) link
I finally heard Stretch and We Had It All yesterday. I do not come to defend the latter - the put-on southern accent he uses on several of the country numbers is abhorrent. Stretch has some nice bits (Moviegoer is leagues better)I feel like I wanna hear Any Day Now because I noticed Peter Knight does the orchestrations on that one
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 29 March 2019 12:58 (five years ago) link
Yeah I don't think Stretch is irredeemable by any means. It's been a long time since I heard Any Day Now but iirc it's nice in places although the version of Ain't No Sunshine is not much cop at all.
― Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Friday, 29 March 2019 13:29 (five years ago) link
"Long About Now", "Time Operator", "Joe", "Thanks For Chicago, Mr. James", title track all awesome btw.
― Don't Go Back to Brockville (Tom D.), Friday, 29 March 2019 13:42 (five years ago) link
Quite like the smooth jazz songs on TTBCI
― frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 29 March 2019 14:01 (five years ago) link
― Don't Go Back to Brockville (Tom D.), Friday, March 29, 2019 6:42 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 29 March 2019 14:08 (five years ago) link
yeah, this has been my favorite scott song for the last few years. one of the most devastating songs about aging and death, elevated and amplified by the major-key lounge-jazz sonics
― J. Sam, Friday, 29 March 2019 15:52 (five years ago) link
"Jean The Machine" is George Bleedin' Melly, though. Title track slightly spoiled by the backing vocals I think.
Minor gripes. And it's not comparable to later Tom & Jerry ("where they could talk"), never mind what Jarvis says ;)
On the subject of devastating... listening to "Rosemary" and "On Your Own Again" on my commute probably not a smart move. I'd actually forgotten about the killer codas to each of those.
― Michael Jones, Friday, 29 March 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link
Oddly enough, 'Til the Band Comes In was the first Scott I listened to after his passing. It veers between adventurousness and biding time ("Time Operator," natch), and is very cinematic — moreso really than The Moviegoer in its feel, a bit like a trailer compilation of curios from the era. The overlapping orchestra tracks on the title song convey "one man's descent into madness": spinning camera, multiple exposures. I'm not sure if I'd say that movie looks like great art; it feels maybe a little pretentious (Scott is quoted describing his work this way in the liners for, what, Scott 2?), but it looks cool and I'd check it out anyway. The album also feels special for having been a little harder to acquire than the albums that preceded it (I didn't get ahold of a copy until a 2007 Japanese reissue). Major cult appeal!
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:07 (five years ago) link
"dealer" is one of his very best songs, and "track three" is a banger
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 March 2019 19:27 (five years ago) link
it's like the most cracked idea of a popular rock song
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 March 2019 19:28 (five years ago) link
What time of the year did Scott Walker go to that farmhouse to write material for "Climate of Hunter"? I’m wondering if the title of that album can be interpreted as a reference to the constellation of Orion. His experiences in the farmhouse surely left their mark on the album’s lyrics; it’s hard not to connect "Rawhide" with, as he mentioned in an interview, his seeing herds of cows grazing while there.
― Melomane, Sunday, 31 March 2019 20:07 (five years ago) link
well that was an ill-advised and overemotional full discography listen i did yesterday, but i came away thinking the drift is his masterwork (and he made several albums that qualify). surprised me a little, i sort of expected to love tilt or climate the most at this point but... even though it's slow-hatching nightmare, the drift is surprisingly, perversely catchy? most of the songs lingered in my head from when i spent a lot of time with it in college
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:01 (five years ago) link
\They really do have their own little characters despite all living in the same world. Some days I'm into the more melodic, strangely beautiful elements of Tilt; the brute-force dynamic terror of Drift; or the dark scat humour of Bish Bosch. I've also reassessed Soused lately and while it's certainly not his best sonically, his lyrics come into their own on that one.
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:32 (five years ago) link
scott was also one of the best lyricists to ever do it, i feel like that is often lost in recapitulations of his weirdness and daring
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 1 April 2019 15:49 (five years ago) link
Brad thoroughly otm as usual
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 1 April 2019 15:52 (five years ago) link
I haven’t fully revisited it yet but will put in a mention for Ian Penman’s wonderful and long (~70pp!) essay “a dandy in aspic” in rob Young’s book, it makes a case for those middle years: the moviegoer and songs from his tv show and that. Penman touches on stuff mentioned upthread eg that the originals in til the band comes in go well into the second side, and posits that the reason the received wisdom “SIDE 2 IS ALL BAD!!” was allowed to ossify is that for a long time it was difficult to actually get ahold of the album to check - not to be too on brand but maybe cf twin peaks “SEASON 2 IS ALL BAD!!”
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 1 April 2019 16:10 (five years ago) link
it's some way the best piece in the book i think
― mark s, Monday, 1 April 2019 16:24 (five years ago) link
For sure although I like the David Toop interview where (iirc and I may be thinking of a different one) he asks walker about the significance of kabbalistic references in the drift (serifot and kellipot) and Walker has no memory of even coming across the words before, let alone what he meant by their deployment!
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 1 April 2019 16:35 (five years ago) link
I think he said recently one of his songwriting strategies just involved going to an acquaintance’s vast personal library and reading and picking out words
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 1 April 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link
checked out a preview on google and think i'm gonna buy the ebook of the rob young collection. penman otm that til the band comes in is three quarters brilliant one quarter ok. "war is over" is scott 3 quality
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 1 April 2019 17:21 (five years ago) link
I actually like almost all of the songs that fill out side 2, it's just that this record HAS to end with "The War is Over", going from that to "Stormy" etc is just too weird and jarring. Same with Scott 3 though I love those three Brel tunes. Both LPs have a resoundingly clear natural ending point at which they do not end.
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Monday, 1 April 2019 17:26 (five years ago) link
i'd like to argue against conventional wisdom here and suggest the three brel tunes are actually the best possible way to end scott 3, the album entering this arch wormhole at the end ("sons of" both creepy and beautiful! "funeral tango" a complete delight and less jarring in the sequence than "we came through" imo) and closes with the most beautiful "ne me quitte pas," can't argue with it ("two weeks since you've gone" would've been a weaker closer)
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 1 April 2019 17:34 (five years ago) link
No way, "Two Weeks Since You've Gone" is gorgeous and heartbreaking and "If You Go Away" is his worst Brel cover by a country mile.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Monday, 1 April 2019 17:39 (five years ago) link
"Have you written enough songs for the album yet?" "Er, almost".
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Monday, 1 April 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
"If You Go Away" is his worst Brel cover by a country mile.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Monday, April 1, 2019 10:39 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
idk how you arrived at this opinion but it does not reflect my experience at all
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 1 April 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link
You're NEXT!
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:04 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0LmWUUVvUM
had never heard this drift-era track (from a 4ad comp called plague songs) until now, it rules
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 1 April 2019 19:27 (five years ago) link
Oh yeah, also has a classic Scott footnote/gloss iirc
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 1 April 2019 19:42 (five years ago) link
(Contrary to the idea many have of his later career he often took pains to clarify what certain songs were about!)
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 1 April 2019 19:44 (five years ago) link
Brad otm about the Brel covers at the end of Scott 3
Man I wish "We Came Through" was just not on that album though!
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 1 April 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link
Wonderful Amazon review for Rob Young's book here. Yikes!
James J. Omeara5.0 out of 5 starsThe Implicitly White Genius of Scott WalkerFebruary 17, 2014Format: HardcoverEven if my review at the Counter-Currents blog hasn't convinced you that Scott Walker is the ultimate White musician and worthy of your attention for that reason alone, this book will appeal to anyone with an interest in the mechanics of the post-war pop music industry or just some damned fine cultural writing. It’s really quite exciting to see such implicitly White music, both avant garde and MOR, receiving serious critical attention. White Nationalists should be heartened by it, and should encourage this unexpected entry point into the mainstream by purchasing multiple copies for family and friends!3 people found this helpful
― Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 1 April 2019 20:53 (five years ago) link
the jarvis interview from 2017 is awesome for a lot of reasons but i especially liked when walker talked about how much he loved jazz. no one tell james j. omeara
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:42 (five years ago) link
it's almost funny how much effort a human being will put into being racist these days
― cheese canopy (map), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:46 (five years ago) link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0004d8x
Freak Zone tribute show, includes bits of interview where he just sounds charming and funny.
― koogs, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 13:35 (five years ago) link