Rolling Metal Thread 2010

Life is short, therefore I try to stay disciplined about ignoring new music by bands I already know I don't like.

Try, and often fail. You people here are to blame as often as anybody. No, damn it, I still hate High on Fire, no matter how much anybody raves about it. Why did you make me listen again to prove it? And I will not fall for cheap bait like "The Alcest is just unreal". No way. I didn't like the other Alcest album very much, so there's no way "big improvements on all fronts" could convert something I didn't like very much into something I like. Not that I can actually remember why I didn't like the other Alcest record. I probably gave it a few weeks of carefully studied attention, and then reluctantly concluded, in full cognizance of its virtues and flaws, that the latter outweighed the former in my personal listening life. Either that or I listened to the first 5 seconds of each of 3 :30 samples on iTunes and none of them was what I happened to be in the mood for at that specific moment. But, you know, close enough.

Oh, crap, OK already, I'll download the damn new Alcest one and listen to one song all the way through, while I'm playing Scramble or something. OK, two songs. OK, the whole album, but only because I'm having a good Scramble run and can't be bothered to think about what else to listen to. Oh, crap, OK already, it's fantastic. Much better than that shitty first album, how could I have been expected to know that? His fault for lowballing the debut, obviously. I mean, if you're going to make a crap record and then a fantastic record, what the hell are people supposed to do? I mean, here, I'll show you what I mean. Lemme download the first one again, obviously I deleted it after those weeks of careful study I mentioned. Now see, listen to how lame this first song is. Oh, actually the first one is great, but it all falls apart on the second one. Third one, I mean. Second half of the record totally blows, I mean.

Oh hell, I don't remember any of this, and it's seriously great. Maybe I was confusing Alcest with Ulver or something.

[Nobody start on Ulver. Seriously, I don't have the time.]

Did a little bit of shopping to perk up a gray Monday:

Corrupted - Paso Inferior (the clerk was uber-stoked that I was buying this, kept gushing about how awesome it is)
Nachtmysitum - Instinct: Decay

and shit, just noticed they put the fucking wrong Lair of the Minotaur disc in the package. Supposed to be Carnage, but they gave me the disc for War Metal Battle Master which I already have. Fuuuuuuck. Now I have to make a 2 hour round trip train tip to return it. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

sweet, my Festered cd came in the mail today! and immolation's dawn of possession. as much as a fanboy as I've been, never owned this!

Supposed to be Carnage, but they gave me the disc for War Metal Battle Master which I already have. Fuuuuuuck. Now I have to make a 2 hour round trip train tip to return it. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

demand a house call!

Haha, I wish! Maybe that was bit of an overreaction earlier, but lesson learned - always check to make sure you get what you paid for when you leave a shop that is really inconvenient to go back to!

true tho I can't say I always do. and sometimes it's hard to tell if yr not familiar with the design on the cd (altho I guess you were since you owned it, lol).

It was one of those stores where they keep just the sleeves out front and the jewel cases and discs back in the shelves behind the counter (which I'm generally a fan of for ease in flipping through!) the dude just slipped the sleeve into the latter LotM case. I mean, I glimpsed at it but saw "Lair of the Minotuar" and figured I was fine. Didn't notice til I was actually looking at the track names and was like.... "wait a minute...".

Anyway. Any thoughts on the Corrupted disc that the clerk was enthusing about? Curious to hear what you guys think. I won't get to listen to it until tomorrow, because I want to make sure I have the whole 40 minutes for my undivided attention.

Corrupted only have a few full-lengths, and they're all good. That one's one of their least experimental, as I recall - it's just straight crushing heaviness from front to back. They display their softer side on El Mundo Frio and the second disc of the two-disc Se Hace Por Los Sueños Asesinos (my personal favorite of their discography).

My mistake; the double disc is Llenandose de Gusanos (which is apparently out of print now).

llenandose is my fave as well.

but yeah, I agree. all corrupted is worthwhile. wouldn't put paso inferior in the top tier but it's still cool.

nadie is probably my favorite of the readily available stuff but you should poke around for mp3s of their singles. lots of amazing stuff out there that is frustratingly out of print. (though rumors of a singles collection have been going around for years.)

love this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqQVP81ab9s

Sounds like I have some exploring to do.

If you're feeling lazy...

Why I just may be feeling a little bit lazy tonight. Thanks.

I've never dug deep into Rotting Christ before either, but the new album really is good.

― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, February 19, 2010 3:48 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

i'm late to the party, but this ^

It was one of those stores where they keep just the sleeves out front and the jewel cases and discs back in the shelves behind the counter (which I'm generally a fan of for ease in flipping through!) the dude just slipped the sleeve into the latter LotM case.

Haha, that happened to me in 1988, the clerk gave me Helloween's Keeper of the Seven Keys Part One instead of Part Two. I was so pumped for that album, so I was quite irate when I found out at home. Plus I had to go back and like a total nerdy idiot explain that there were two parts to this silly power metal thing.

And I agree, the new Rotting Christ is really good, better than Theogonia, which is a strong record in its own right. It would have been good without the Diamanda Galas track, but the performance winds up knocking that album out of the park.

Plus I had to go back and like a total nerdy idiot explain that there were two parts to this silly power metal thing.

lol

so Belus is worth checking out?

i'm not familiar with burzum at all.

I think so. But if you're not familiar, its a good idea to hear Filosofem and Hvis Lyset Tar Oss first.

sveet. thanks!

By the way, Adrien, love to hear you expound on your FB status from earlier about the new Ratt album.

Unless you will be reviewing it for somewhere and I'll wait patiently.

It feels like a total return to their 80s form, it nails the same feel of Dancin' Undercover. Very upbeat and hooky with those sharp DeMartini riffs. It sounds like a band that's learned to embrace what made them so great 25 years ago instead of trying to keep up with the times.

Huh, well I'm certainly going to move that from my 'totally uninterested' pile to the 'worth a listen' pile.

I'm with Adrien. The new Ratt disc is a really, really pleasant surprise.

Okay, with two of you chiming in I am convinced to give it a shot. Might have to wait til after this Corrupted kick.

So the new Armored Saint album is good fun. There's a lot more groove/funk-fueled stuff than ever before, but the classic heavy metal element that made these guys so great is always there. I haven't decided if it's better than Revelation (it's definitely not as great as Symbol of Salvation, Delirious Nomad, or March of the Saint for that matter), but it has its moments.

I haven't listened to this yet, but I have a feeling regulars of this thread, especially people who lean toward the moodier, more genre-blurring end of black metal, will find something to love in it.

I'm definitely going to check that out, thanks.

Also, I'm surprised it took that long for someone to come up with a black metal version of the Buddha Machine.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_fiCpKyQrCR0/S2iykmjmzoI/AAAAAAAAAhA/41T9gjqMhPc/s1600-h/BlackBoxPhoto.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_fiCpKyQrCR0/S2iykmjmzoI/AAAAAAAAAhA/41T9gjqMhPc/s1600-h/BlackBoxPhoto.jpg

that flingco comp is really good. got it thru the pussygutt dude's blog. i don't know that pussygutt counts as metal but everything they do slays.

FROST HAMMER

FROST HAMMER

FROST HAMMER

FROST HAMMER

also if i may AEALO is dope as shit

So I'm looking through the nominees list for the metal poll, and I see that Antigama's 'Warning' wasn't nominated - if I'd known I would have thrown that name in the hat because I just heard it a week ago and it's fucking insanely good, like Nasum good. Would've been by number 2 pick for sure. Ah well, you always miss something.

In other news, for anyone here who gets BBC Four on their telly, the Iron Maiden doc Flight 666 is on tonight at 11pm. It's part of a short Metal Britannia season that features a whole night of metal tomorrow from 9pm (a 90-minute doc thing along the lines of the Factory Records one last year, some live BBC performances, a Maiden concert vid, and the Rock Family Trees ep on Black Sabbath). About bloody time, too.

Also I'm sure some of these will show up in the usual spots if they aren't already available.

Yeah the Flingco comp is pretty good, although less Metal than I was expecting.

Sob, my copy of the Black Box went missing in the Post somewhere between San Francisco & London. I still hope it may show up one day, but its been something like 6 months now.

Blood of the Black Owl 'A Banishing Ritual (Into White)'

This dude's albums just get better and better. The final few minutes of the new one sounds like Burial Hex mixed with Dark Side of the Moon and Cluster.

And he looks like Asterix The Gaul. Stood in a forest.

"...the new one is going to be better than ten Super Bowls! I don't want to oversell it, judge for yourself."

Yeah, if I was American and watched sport I'd probably get what you're driving at. As it is...

New Exodus is actually... really good? I can never get very far into Atrocity Exhibition, but The Human Condition has some seriously great riffs, and it sounds like Rob Dukes has added an extra dimension to his vocals, so he's now two dimensional. I'm not sure it can maintain the energy for the entire runtime, but I'm halfway through and it's still going strong.

I've really dug the recent incarnation of Exodus, and I expect the new CD to be a strong one (might give it a listen this afternoon). Their recent DVD is also lots of fun. Seeing them on Monday with Megadeth & Testament!

Meanwhile, though it's too early to call, there are some serious album-of-the-year vibes coming from the new Nachtmystium album. I already like it more than Assassins.

Very anxious to hear the Nachtmystium. Glad to hear positive things.

I love the last Exodus quite a bit.

Exodus have never been one of my favorite thrash bands -- they've always struck me as a little too single-minded. Still, they do impress me on occasion, and this is one of those occasions.

Never liked Exodus. Didn't like 'em in 1990, when I saw 'em with Suicidal Tendencies and Pantera, and don't like 'em now.

So who's going to the Iron Maiden/Dream Theater tour? This'll be my fifth time seeing them, my third at Madison Square Garden. I've also seen 'em at Hammerstein Ballroom and at PNC Bank Arts Center in Jersey (part of Ozzfest). I can't wait; they're the best live act in big-time metal. Better than Priest, better than Metallica.

I'll be there June 29! So excited...it'll just be my third. And I agree, easily the best live band in metal.

I'd love to see them but they aren't playing a show in New England. I can't do a ten or twelve hour round trip for a show anymore.

Tried to listen to the new Exodus tonight. Made it one-and-a-half songs in. They really do nothing for me.

Listened to the new Dillinger Escape Plan today too. The electronic stuff I liked from Ire Works is all gone.

Yeah, this is the first tim a Dillinger album hasn't completely floored me. Not that it's a bad album, it's well done, but they're sounding predictable for the first time. I was really hoping for something as daring as Ire Works.

And I like the new Exodus! But like that damn Heathen album it does go on for too long.