Sade: Classic or Dud?

i dont expect sonic innovation from a sade record. just good fidelity. tinny as ive said before is the wrong word but ive also used small, insipid, and generally lumpen to describe the programming, rather than the sounds. hence, i think the backing is often more functional than anything else. that richness/general opulence of sades sound is what made them, well sade, to me. obviously pop production values have changed a hell of a lot since the 80s, though at the time they were making those early classics, they didnt sound like most pop bands, ie drum machines, synths etc, so to have them basically reflect pop sonics now is a bit dissapointing. you keep talking about what 'people' have always said about her, or what they come to her for, rather than actually looking at what else they got along with those obvious qualities. its like saying people came to rakim only for great lyrics and a certain cool poise and ignore when a new album of his comes out with terrible production and hooks that affect everything else. so, sure most people might not notice whats missing/whats there on the new sade album (though i played it to my cousins who were all teenagers in the 80s and loved sade and they said they thought it sounded different for some reason and didnt warm to it as much), and yes, the main elements that make sade are still intact, and make me return to the record, but its still important.

btw when i say modern pop sonics im not talking about your gagas and britneys obv, more the dido/james blunt/singer songwritery types with mass appeal that get sold in tescos and sainsburys.

i think thats a decent argument. i dont really hear it personally, or its not detracting from the positive qualities of the record for me (i dont recognize any similar feelings while im listening to this record) so im not really sure i agree.

actually on reflection i hear it to a degree actually - i would buy that this one is recorded digital when the prev were analog for instance. and there are places where it IS clearly noticeable now that you mention it, like that one weird distorted guitar on soldier of love that pops in every once in a while, and is clarly cut-and-pasted into every chorus... if it were analog you couldn't really do that easily and there would have been subtle differences each time he played that fill on each chorus...

i don't think it really overly detracts from the album though, it's still lush and beautiful and well produced. it's just most likely recorded digitally like everything else is these days, and maybe sounds a touch "thinner" for it. look, in 30 years people are gonna be paying top dollar to emulate the "digital" sound of the naughties, reproducing that thin digital gloss on retroesqe albums etc - just roll with it

ugh at that thought

Lovin' this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW8HHw8kpfM&feature=player_embedded#at=102

I love the production on it, too.

yeah, this is nice

sooooooooooooooooooo classic!

i feel "paradise" does not get enough love

i feel Stronger Than Pride altogether does not get enough love

my favorite Sade track of all time is on Stronger Than Pride:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzvM0M6lRfI

I could listen to "Never As Good As The First Time" on a loop all day.

Yeah, this is pretty damn sharp.

Another new one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v29hLQnr1fo

(Prefer the timeless sound of the other new one.)

i'm loving the new tracks

even jay-z doesn't disgrace himself on "the moon and the sky" remix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adOUY8Ue9LU

shes playing in AUGUST and shit is sold out.

Sade - The Ultimate Collection

1. Your Love Is King
2. Smooth Operator
3. Hang On to Your Love
4. The Sweetest Taboo
5. Is It a Crime
6. Never as Good as the First Time
7. Jezebel
8. Love Is Stronger Than Pride
9. Paradise
10. Nothing Can Come Between Us
11. No Ordinary Love
12. Kiss of Life
13. Feel No Pain+
14. Bullet Proof Soul+

Disc 2

1. Cherish the Day
2. Pearls
3. By Your Side+
4. Immigrant+
5. Flow+
6. King of Sorrow+
7. The Sweetest Gift+
8. Solider of Love+
9. The Moon and the Sky+
10. Babyfather+
11. Still in Love With You**
12. Love Is Found**
13. I Would Never Have Guessed**
14. The Moon and the Sky (Remix Featuring Jay-Z)**
15. By Your Side (Neptunes Remix)+

hate that neptunes remix.

no "To Turn My Back On You" = fie on your "Ultimate" appellation

happy, for no real reason, that my favorite song is on there "Bulletproof Soul". What's with the "+" after certain tracks?

I think there might be a one-disc version without the + songs. Was trying to find a YouTube to post of another new track but found this listing instead.

so "i would never have guessed" is the only new track that hasn't emerged yet?

According to my official Sade page on Facebook, they released it to Starbucks this weekend--don't know if that just means in-store play or a free MP3 or what.

Sade is my "friend."

"I Would Have Never Guessed", one of four new songs from Sade's The Ultimate Collection, premiered with Starbucks over the weekend. To listen to the song click here: http://web.epicrecords.com/sade/starbucks/

The track is free with the purchase of a half dozen vanilla scones.

First concert in a decade.

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/224984_10150159019427882_9994477881_6783763_6356076_n.jpg

Our local show sold out 5 months in advance.

Saw her on the Love Deluxe tour. Fucking phenomenal.

no "To Turn My Back On You" = fie on your "Ultimate" appellation

― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Monday, April 18, 2011 3:04 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah wtf this had a video & everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyh-d-LS1po

this is like, my favorite sade song

Love the new Thin Lizzy cover.

My favorite Sade song: "Never As Good As the First Time"

"no ordinary love" is mine

"Bulletproof Soul".
I love most of Sade but the damp and sticky sound they perfected on 'Love Deluxe' is really up there

My favorite Sade song: "Never As Good As the First Time"

― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 May 2011 13:48 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

good choice!

love 'war of the hearts' on that album too

wait, are they going to launch Sade into the sun? because that is excessive.

im riding for 'kiss of life' these days

the sound they got on 'lovedeluxe' is some sort of peak of recorded music

actually, wait no, "stronger than pride" isn't my favorite sade song. it's "by your side", duh.

"And does Destroyer, or whoever wrote the bio sheet that accompanies this album, really expect us to believe there’s anything of any value whatsoever worth appropriating from Kenny G or Sade, both namechecked and both making their influence felt on Kaputt?"

'Paradise' is probably my favorite.

sade is an artist where i can entirely understand other people's favorites & sometimes feel like that might actually be my favorite after all

I'd like to pick something less overt than By Your Side, but its just not possible, its the best (my favorite). Feel No Pain is my second favorite, for what its worth.

this is an awesome footworking remix of "cherish the day" that i first heard when nguzunguzu played it at night slugs

http://soundcloud.com/ghettophiles/jody-breeze-the-way-i-move

Assuming that's not the Jody Breeze from Boyz in da Hood?

"jezebel" = proto "fancy" duhh