Skinny Puppy: Classic or Dud?

what's the backwards music at the end of "sleeping beast"?

awesome?

it's a backwards sample of a song. sounds like could be 70s rock or something. anyone know?

wow, playing Bites for the first time in years and it holds up astonishingly well

"Dead Lines" is a beast of a song

still bleating about these guys being way ahead of their time to people who don't care. unfairly ghettoized with the Industrial moniker. Too Dark Park and especially Last Rights feature some genuinely fucking wild, impressive production work.

you know what doesn't get mentioned enough, is Download

i knew a hella lot of industro-heads into Download in the mid-90s, haven't heard that name dropped in some years!

Crazy things, soft spoken..override.

Meanwhile, the new album's quite good! They seem to have found just the right balance for themselves and their age to keep making it work in a subtler but still textured and engaging way.

i honestly have not given any of their newer music a chance. i'm horrible i know.
want to recommend a specific track or two?

Well this newest, Handover, comes out next week, so you might enjoy "Cullorblind" and "Wavy" as 'newer' songs, to my ear, while "Point" and "Vyrisus" work in slightly older forms. There's less of the careening chaos now but Key is still a sharp as hell arranger.

Thermo, did you ever hear "Pro-Test" off of Greater Right of the Wrong?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXT6KrX-PF4

yup. Greater Right... is sort of when i was decided i wasn't interested in the newer stuff!

Classic: Skinny Puppy and the Too Dark Park artwork

Dud: People who taken part in the thread devoted to saying Skinny Puppy art was especially bad, TDP in particular.

I had toyed with posting in the Bad Album Covers thread but it just makes me overwhelmingly angry that so many people dismiss so much eccentric strange beauty as ugly and praise really bland art as "iconic" and "classy". I love a lot of that weird old painted art of old prog albums with touches of surrealism, Chameleons album covers and lots of other similar stuff. It isnt always to my liking but I respect it because it has personality. I particularly like the Semiramis album cover.

...but yeah, I only have TDP and am looking forward to more!

New single, "paraGun", off the forthcoming LP, Weapon.

Not bad.

http://youtu.be/kUCatOT1D-Q

you know what, aside from "Worlock" and "Tin Omen" Rabies is kind of boring

but "Worlock" and "Tin Omen" are career-defining masterpieces on par with their early work so it all kind of comes out in the positive column anyway

I thought that was the general consensus on that album?

Yeah, I'm just going through the album again for the first time in a long time and reading my positive comments upthread and thinking "man, it wasn't just Ministry that suffered from Al's fall-off"

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/feb/07/skinny-puppy-payment-guantanamo

Wow, hope they get the money.

can't get enough of remission and bites

I wore a Skinny Puppy shirt to a Christmas party last night.

I'm long overdue for a re-listen to the entire discography. when I first got into hard industrial, Too Dark Park was my entry point.

"Tormentor" is still my fav Skuppy track.

Also my first SP album. Had no frame of reference for it and it kinda blew my mind. Spasmolytic is pure, driving evil and has always been my go-to on that one.

I jumped off the SP wagon in 1990 so know and love everything up until Too Dark Park. What is essential that i have missed?

aside from Last Rights, not a lot tbh.

Too Dark Park and Last Rights probably them at the top of their game, so yeah, those two. Can ignore the rest.

The album that "Pro-Test" is on is pretty good

damn after bites these guys get ugly as hell don't they

i'm at vivisectvi which is a great record but my favorite part is the second half where they remember they're in the club ("who's laughing now?" -> "testure")

my favorite so far is mind: the perpetual intercourse which was unexpected because that album freaked me out so bad in college that i threatened to never get into skinny puppy

Last rights is incredible. Check the track “scrapyard”

i can't wait to get it! all i want to do is listen to skinny puppy

M:TPI is great

Last Rights is the only Skinny Puppy I actually own on CD, yet is probably my least favourite of the run from 84-92 (although I haven't actually heard Too Dark Park or Cleanse Fold and Manipulate tbf). I still like it. but Remission is amazing. Bites/Mind/Vivisectvi/Rabies are all great

Too Dark Park > Last Rights

cleanse fold and manipulate blows me away bc it has stuff as accessible and funky as "addiction" and "tear or beat" and "deep down trauma hounds" sitting near "draining faces," which is maybe the song i'd use to introduce someone to the concept of "industrial," it embodies so many aspects of the genre while going at least as hard as throbbing gristle, and "the mourn," which just sounds straight up satanic to me. different rooms in a club in hell: the album

i love the ... playfulness (?) of the sampling in "anger"

Cleanse Fold and Manipulate was my SP entry point; american bradass nails all that is great about that album.

It is one of thee masterclasses in how to use a sampler creatively.

is there a particular reason that, after three albums in hell, rabies feels like the long-awaited sequel to bites

i guess the presence of al jourgensen kind of explains it but mostly explains why "fascist jockitch" exists

I only like two songs on Rabies but those two songs ("Worlock", "Tin Omen") are career highlights

Listened to their singles compilation this morning while walking to the laundromat and doing laundry. Their music is excellent for being outside in 20-degree (Fahrenheit) weather.

only have 2 of their late era albums in the archive, 'Mythmaker', and 'Handover', which are pretty good, especially 'Mythmaker'.
unfortunately their classic stuff rarely turns up on cds over this side of the water.
used to have CF&M on tape when it was released and recall it being a pretty scary listen.
going to have to track it down again now though ..

i can tell you that this is already one of my favorite skinny puppy songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH5lSONTo5o

it's so... catchy

"worlock" is also undeniable

the "helter skelter" samples are hilarious

and while i really like psalm 69, "tin omen" is my preferred idea of thrash metal industrial

what a headtrip