(TOP 5 TODAY, MOFOS!) Yo P&J, I'm really happy for you, Imma let you finish, but ILX had the greatest 2009 poll of all time! All time! (2009 ILX Albums Poll Results)

so far Fall Out Boy has the highest average w/ 16

4 or 5 for me. I forget if I voted flaming lips or not. Did better last year.

I still think that's weird since it was a 2008 album.

Sure, send me the data and I'll do centricity and similarity...

The Very Best is great btw.

oops, I was thinking FOB had 15, not 16. so the PPV champ is still to come

i'm a YAX man. fuck the GPD.

Now we're talking.

they're riding camels in california

awww. but yr right, still tho. thx for the recaps also.

i am def bummed that tonetta didn't make the top fifty

Pretty sure I've voted for:

50 -- Gucci Mane - Burrprint 3D (89.5 points, 9 votes) (dnp in p4k, 195 in p&j)
49 -- Matias Aguayo - Ay Ay Ay (91 points, 11 votes) (dnp in p4k, 226 in p&j)
45 -- Fall Out Boy - Folie a Deux (96 points, 6 votes, 1 #1 vote/s) (dnp in p4k, dnp in p&j)
43 -- Henrik Schwarz, Âme and Dixon - The Grandfather Paradox (98 points, 9 votes) (dnp in p4k, 816 in p&j)
39 -- Meanderthals - Desire Lines (104.5 points, 9 votes) (dnp in p4k, 877 in p&j)
32 -- Broadcast & The Focus Group - ...Investigate Witch Cults Of The Radio Age (112.5 points, 9 votes, 1 #1 vote/s) (dnp in p4k, 88 in p&j)
28 -- Omar-S - Fabric 45: Detroit (123 points, 10 votes) (dnp in p4k, 134 in p&j)
27 -- Mungolian Jet Set - We Gave it All Away...Now We Are Taking It Back (128.5 points, 10 votes) (dnp in p4k, 744 in p&j)
23 -- Rihanna - Rated R (152.5 points, 16 votes) (dnp in p4k, 125 in p&j)
19 -- Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx II (172 points, 15 votes, no #1 vote/s) (5 in p4k, 8 in p&j)
18 -- Bat For Lashes - Two Suns (181 points, 15 votes, no #1 vote/s) (7 in p4k, 23 in p&j)]
16 -- Maxwell - BLACKsummers'night (190 points, 17 votes, no #1 vote/s) (dnp in p4k, 14 in p&j)
14 -- The Juan Maclean - The Future Will Come (240 points, 22 votes, 2 #1 vote/s) (dnp in p4k, 126 in p&j)
12 -- DJ Sprinkles - Midtown 120 Blues (270 points, 19 votes, 3 #1 vote/s) (dnp in p4k, 82 in p&j)
11 -- Lindstrom & Prins Thomas - II (285.5 points, 22 votes, 1 #1 vote/s) (dnp in p4k, 359 in p&j)
10 -- Dirty Projectors - Bitte Orca (290.5 points, 23 votes, 3 #1 vote/s) (2 in p4k, 5 in p&j)
9 -- Taylor Swift - Fearless (292 points, 19 votes, 2 #1 vote/s) (dnp in p4k, 186 in p&j)
7 -- Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion (348 points, 27 votes, 1 #1 vote/s) (1 in p4k, 1 in p&j)
6 -- DJ Quik and Kurupt - Blaqkout (353.5 points, 27 votes, 1 #1 vote/s) (25 in p4k, 62 in p&j)

Some days I feel very ILM-Hiveminder.

that last one being especially weird because PF’s whole top 13 placed in ILX, and then 10 of the next 11 did not

rings true given ilx's relationship to pfork - influenced by it sufficiently that the consensus picks will be reflected here, but not really buying deeply into the pfork aesthetic as such.

maybe the first year that I've preferred the p&j and pitchfork lists to the ilm list. it's like lex voted 15 times or something.

maybe it's just that other people also like the stuff i like? what a weird thing to say, you may as well say it about half a dozen other posters. especially after a stretch which includes animal collective, dirty projectors, phoenix, fuck buttons, sunno))) and mastodon!

ftr, 14 of my votes will place -

gucci mane, ugk, meanderthals, mariah carey, dâm-funk, rihanna, maxwell, taylor swift + the assumed top 5

with another 8 that i didn't vote for but basically like -

lindstrøm & prins thomas, dj sprinkles, the juan maclean, raekwon, omar-s, miranda lambert, lady gaga, henrik schwarz/âme/dixon

didn't expect to vote for the whole top 6, but then this year i did love three of the consensus-everywhere albums (xx/fever ray/yyys), which doesn't usually happen.

haha xp, already tim has me beat, and he hasn't included stuff from the top 5 he voted for!

(i also voted for dj quik & kurupt OBV)

actually tim, what did you think of the mariah album? as a terius fan i was surprised that you didn't post in that thread much (at all?)

woah Tim so 95% of your ballot placed?

looks like 6 albums I voted for got in, which is about what I expected.

actually tim, surely you voted for both electrik red and terius! which brings your total votes to...21!

it seems like you're just deciding he likes the terius trilogy more than he apparently did?

only 7 of mine

Also Tim having been pretty much the biggest Dream stan here for about two years. (xpost)

As far as I can see I voted for Matias Aguayo, El Perro Del Mar, Omar S, Mungolian Jet Set, Death, Mastodon, Maxwell, Fuck Buttons and Quik & Kurupt. And also the YYYs, Electrik Red and Fever Ray.

I actually have no idea what will make #1 but it doesn't seem ridiculous to me that Electrik Red will place above The Dream.

i voted for ER and not The-Dream too but i have a hard time imagining there are a ton of other people who can say the same

Tim was never a heavy poster on the big The-Dream thread and doesn't seem to stan for everything he does nearly as much as at least a dozen people here afaik

didn't vote for albums but I'd be surprised if people who really dig love/$ put it behind ER. no doubt people will tell me to listen to the ER album more, but the-dream just seems to do more w/ his vocals than he does w/ ppl's he produces, and more is definitely more.

I can see that if you're talking about Mariah's album, but ER definitely do a lot of different things with their vocals, plus there are 4 of them, 2 of whom have pretty distinctive voices.

Actually i didn't vote for the Broadcast album which I haven't even heard, that was an oversight. And DJ Sprinkles as I've already said I didn't vote for this year.

Easier to mention the things I would have voted for that haven't placed (yet) - Electrik Red, Marcus Nasty, The-Dream, The Very Best, Silkie, The XX, maybe Paramore? Can't remember now. Maybe I didn't vote for Omar-S and Maxwell? I remember having a list of 30 that was very different to narrow down to 20. I really should email musically in order to grab my ballot.

I hadn't bought the Mariah album at the time of voting. I have now and like it but need to absorb it more.

I always seem to end up checking out Mariah albums about six months after they emerge. With super big artists like that I feel fairly placid about listening to their releases cos they're always gonna be (cf. Electrik Red where I've never even seen the album in the shops).

At any rate that would give me an 80%-85% result. Which is more curious to me rather than something to be proud of - like, do I expend so much energy on this stuff only to discover I'm crushingly typical.

If it makes you feel better I'm pretty sure that Marcus Nasty and Silkie will not place in the top five.

Oh absolutely not. That and The Very Best are my 15% guaranteed not placing.

yah tim im pretty fair that wrt dj sprinkles and mungolian jet set at least, ur influence is a big reason y they placed maybe so

^^ for real. pretty hard to ignore dj sprinkles when it had that thread title

I voted for Silkie!

xp to rev on ER/the-dream

I'm not denying that, I meant more that I really dig the producerly tricks nash pulls w/ his own voice, and he seems to do that more/better w/ his own voice than when he's producing others.

I actually think it's The Dream's treacly vocal production and awful on-record persona that put me off him so much. There are bits on Love vs Money that actively make me cringe, whereas I love the Electrik Red album almost without reserve.

the persona is what makes the record work lyrically, pushing a certain mindset, a certain desire and ambition for success and fancy lifestyle, to the limit. the stuff he does with his vocals on take you home 2 my mama is so special, that is a seriously good brand of treacle if that's what it is.

Yeah with me there's also an element of "why should I be interested in these lyrical themes? Why should I care or identify?" Electrik Red feel a bit more universal.

I guess dude makes me care by making it sound awesome.

the converse is that the-dream's own album is a lot more personal

Yeah exactly, I don't want to hear a personal album from someone whose persona I find both self-involved and irritating. I'm not even really making a value judgement on the music as such - a lot of it is great - I just find him kind of slimy.

I did at first, but he's really a lot more complex than that.

Maybe it helped that I went through my "ewww, slimy" phase two years ago? By the time LVM came out, I'd already figured out that he was a big ol' softee under the sleazy exterior.

Which is more curious to me rather than something to be proud of - like, do I expend so much energy on this stuff only to discover I'm crushingly typical.

idk but you are easily the person with broadest...taste/love for stuff that i know on ILM. part of that is because of actually writing so much about a lot of different stuff (being influential in the process but that depends on style to an extent), being an actual critic, er...having had a lot of time to listen maybe... so having one of the highest ratios of likes/voted fors in the list does not surprise me. solidarity for those of us who like AC roughly as much as The-Dream!

9 -- Taylor Swift - Fearless (292 points, 19 votes, 2 #1 vote/s) (dnp in p4k, 186 in p&j)
7 -- Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion (348 points, 27 votes, 1 #1 vote/s) (1 in p4k, 1 in p&j)

I can't believe neither of these is #1, ha

"why should I be interested in these lyrical themes? Why should I care or identify?" Electrik Red feel a bit more universal

i can't see what would make the ER themes have signicantly more widespread appeal than The-Dream's. Only real reason I like HTBAL more is that I think Terius production on it is generally more fun and exciting to me than on Love vs Money (even with Fancy which wowed me more than any ER track).

i think i feel pretty much the opposite of matt...i can't really get any feel for distinctive personalities on the er album where lvm feels like it has this highly individual kind of weird perspective that's always working on it.

also i guess i understand why his persona could be a turnoff but it ALWAYS felt like acting/frontin/playin of some kind to me.

btw steve you're underselling Los/tricky, who afaik do most of the producing heavy-lifting

btw i find myself playing the ER album more than the-dream recently, maybe in time i'll say i like it more who knows

duly noted xp

this sunn o))) record is kinda boring. I think I was good with one long, slow, ambient joint, but I didn't realize the whole album would be like that

oh btw, loving the nomo album, if I didn't already mention

There are bits on Love vs Money that actively make me cringe, whereas I love the Electrik Red album almost without reserve.

This is entirely backwards for me. I love The-Dream's album start to finish (excepting that awful bonus track), whereas Electrik Red I've come around to going nuts over about half the tracks, but there's still several that leave me cold and a couple that make me cringe.

I don't want to hear a personal album from someone whose persona I find both self-involved and irritating.

I don't mind. Which I guess is why 808s and Heartbreak was one of my absolute favorites of 2008, and would place highly in my decade end list (we're talking top ten or so) if I happened to make one.

I think I was good with one long, slow, ambient joint, but I didn't realize the whole album would be like that

What, you were expecting "SinceU))) Been Gone"?

tbh a) 'Alice' is the best track and b) I'd imagine Sunn O))) is kinda ten billion miles outside yr usual zone so the fact you've listened to a whole album's worth is great - may others follow suit