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Excelsior &c.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 11 March 2006 01:23 (twenty years ago)

Oddly the SFWeekly just lost its music editor as well...

Garrett still works for SF Weekly. He moved to the front of the book.

― save the robot (save the robot), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:56 (twenty years ago)

In the last Village Voice Clubrat Special podcast Christgau says "...the Dean of American Rock Critics, Robert Christgau -- soon to be deposed, by the way, they're kicking me out..."

Does anyone know if this is true?

― Chuck B, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:19 (twenty years ago)

The Larry Summers of the music journalism world.

― Mitya (mitya), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:12 (twenty years ago)

I think he meant American rock critics no longer want him to be their dean.

― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:16 (twenty years ago)

wait, you just admitted to listening to a Christgau podcast?

― meth lab for doug flutie (sanskrit), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:16 (twenty years ago)

he comes off like a hip larry king!

― ant@work, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:35 (twenty years ago)

I just noticed that Riff Raff is GONE from the music page. Does this mean that they fired Nick, or just that his blog’s on “hiatus”?

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:39 (twenty years ago)

still there:
http://villagevoice.com/blogs/riffraff/

― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:44 (twenty years ago)

yeah, okay, but:

http://villagevoice.com/music/

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:46 (twenty years ago)

my point being that the LINKS to riff raff aren't there on the main music page.

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:48 (twenty years ago)

they're under the "music" heading.
they'll probably start posting links to the individual posts when/if he starts up again next month

― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:51 (twenty years ago)

...

― Nick Sylvester, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:54 (twenty years ago)

Indeed.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:56 (twenty years ago)

Welcome home.

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't be so sanguine, Ray.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 22:00 (twenty years ago)

Sadly here in SF the SFBGuardian has a hard time competing

Really? I don't know anyone who reads the SF Weekly.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 22:04 (twenty years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002JBK.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 22:05 (twenty years ago)

-- Nick Sylvester

How much will you have to be paid off to go away for at least a year?

― Scrof Rufus, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 22:08 (twenty years ago)

I'm basing my judgment of the current SFWeekly vs. SFBG landscape on friends quitting the Guardian, the Guardian complaining (very LOUDLY) about the SFWeekly cutting into their ad revenue, the shrinking of the paper size, the recent switch to a crappier and lower-grade layout, etc. Kimberly Chun is awesome, and there are lots of things I like about the Guardian (I even approve of Brugman's often histrionic anti-PG&E/pro-public power crusade, for example) but it just seems like their days are numbered, to me.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:27 (twenty years ago)

Really? I would wager it's the other way aroung actually.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:57 (twenty years ago)

well, I don't know anyone that works at the Weekly (as I did with the Guardian), so if there are "sinking ship" horror stories goin around that office, I wouldn't know.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 00:05 (twenty years ago)

are there any instances of a local beating out a New Times competitor? I'm genuinely curious.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 00:05 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Shakey, the New Times L.A. paper was beaten by the Voice L.A. paper. (But now the New Times people are the Voice.) My impression back in the late '90s (based on no evidence but the Guardian's untrustworthy ranting) was that the S.F. Weekly was a money loser that New Times was using to get themselves in the SF market (much like the Post in New York). Maybe they're playing a long game, thinking that if the Guardian goes down, then the market will be theirs. In Denver, the New Times' real competition is The Onion, and my guess is that might be true elsewhere at all. But all of this post is guesswork, and any resemblance to reality is entirely coincidental.

(Nick S., hope you're doing well; drop by the country and teenpop threads.)

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:43 (twenty years ago)

"elsewhere at all" = "elsewhere as well"

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:44 (twenty years ago)

My SFBG contacts are more worried about The Onion than the SF Weekly.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:54 (twenty years ago)

Steve I didn't know yr ex was the promo director at KUSF. what the fuck man.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:07 (twenty years ago)

Nobody should sweat it. The newspaper I write for has been owned by three different companies in the past year. Welcome to 2006.

― Mr _Deeds (Mr_Deeds), Thursday, 23 March 2006 07:35 (twenty years ago)

http://www.seattleweekly.com/music/0614/brian-barr.php

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 31 March 2006 12:09 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

please note that this is just speculation at this time, but this, from Gawker seems particularly upsetting for any fans that the Voice still has.

http://www.gawker.com/news/village-voice/voice-to-can-classic-rockers-168088.php

Voice’ to Can Classic Rockers?
READ MORE: Village Voice, critics, jobs, music

20051014vv.jpgWith the caveat that we have absolutely no idea that this is really true, a source claiming to be familiar with the goings-on at Village Voice Media HQ in Phoenix passes along this prognostication:

"Thought you’d like a little crystal ball into the impending shitstorm at the Voice: Christgau and Eddy are getting the boot (apparently today) and it looks like they’ll be replaced by one of the guys from the Phoenix establishment. But, look on the bright side, at least Sylvester shot himself in the foot before he could get the job."

Is the tipster right or wrong? Are big-deal rock writers Robert Christgau and Chuck Eddy about to be kicked out onto Cooper Square? If you’ve got any info, let us know. And we’ll update when we know more.

― that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 21:16 (twenty years ago)

not chuck eddy :(

― Fight the Real Enemy -- Tasti D-Lite (ex machina), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 21:22 (twenty years ago)

I'm not a Christgau fan by any means, but come on... I spent my teenage years in Phoenix and the people who write about music for the New Times are hacks. Christgau may have shitty tase--in my opinion--and he may write about things 6 months too late, but at least he can write!

That said, I'll save my rage for when they can Hoberman.

― Hatch (Hatch), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:04 (twenty years ago)

They've updated, "confirming" that Chuck is gone. What a drag.

― someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:13 (twenty years ago)

the pitchforking of music criticism is nigh

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:13 (twenty years ago)

I won't believe it til Chuck says it.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:18 (twenty years ago)

A Voice colleague has confirmed it to me offlist. :(

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:21 (twenty years ago)

wtf?

― sean gramophone (Sean M), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:22 (twenty years ago)

we should PROTEST

― Fight the Real Enemy -- Tasti D-Lite (ex machina), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:23 (twenty years ago)

my phone is blowing up with this news. rotsa ruck, new village times. you're going to need it.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:30 (twenty years ago)

the only ruck they need is continued advertising revenue. isn't that what the tranny escorts are for?

― the enduring pueblo (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:33 (twenty years ago)

"all tranny escort ads must henceforth stay under 60 words"

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:35 (twenty years ago)

Is it true that this guy is slated to replace Chuck:

http://cache.gawker.com/topic/andy.jpg

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:38 (twenty years ago)

hmmm firing Christgau seems kinda stupid.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:39 (twenty years ago)

I don't know about Xgau. I was only talking about Chuck. Sorry if I've misled anyone.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:42 (twenty years ago)

"And weâ€™ve learned that Robert Christgau apparently ended his last podcast â€” yes, we know someone who listens to them, ashamed though we are about it â€” certain that he, too, was about to fired."

http://www.gawker.com/news/village-voice/village-voice-chuck-eddy-has-left-the-building-168111.php

― Martin Van Buren (Martin Van Buren), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:47 (twenty years ago)

The Xuxk, Xgau support thread

― Jimmy Mod: My theme is DEATH (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 23:03 (twenty years ago)

Thread deleted it says.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 23:05 (twenty years ago)

Who's being a douchebag, dudebro? This totally deserves its own thread.

― Jimmy Mod: My theme is DEATH (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 23:07 (twenty years ago)

I think Jess wants to wait until his CV is rejected before he lets anyone start up another Village Voice thread.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 23:09 (twenty years ago)

Well then he should have said that then. I'll go start a Suri Cruise thread then

― Jimmy Mod: My theme is DEATH (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 23:10 (twenty years ago)

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