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xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 19 June 2006 23:17 (twenty years ago)

yeah, Chuck, I didn't think you were givin' me a hard time; and when I talked to Larsen, I went, huh? when he said that first CD was demos! I made him say it again. and shit, I wish I had written down what song he said was just him on that first record, too. what's so interesting about Nashville is just the level of everyday excellence in performing, songwriting and recording, where a demo sounds great (and I don't profess to have super-ears, just pretty good ones--a lotta times I go visit my buddy Blair Keso, who's a real tech guy who can tell me what mic someone used, what techniques were used to record, etc., and he has quite possibly the best fuckin' turntable/amps/speakers/CD players I've ever heard, and I remember playing Dierks Bentley's last one there and hearing how tinny it sounded--it sounded tinny at my place on my quite serviceable setup, but his equipment is unforgiving).

I'm just real interested in *how* things are done here--and I am lucky to have visited Nevers' little house off 8th Ave. S. and seen the stuff he uses. And on the new PF Sloan record recorded here at Jon Tiven's, you can hear how what seems to be not-great equipment hobbles that record. As Keso pointed out to me, you can rent the world's greatest, hot-rodded mics here in N-ville, so if you have even a decent budget there's kinda no excuse for things to sound less than great. Not that I totally believe in all that pristine stuff, but I do appreciate it. No matter what anyone might say about the actual music or songs on a typical big-labe N-ville record, they mostly sound great, altho Nevers maintains that they've become more compressed than necessary, more pinched-sounding, as labels became somewhat less singles-driven (therefore, they want everything to be potentially a single, and master/mix/compress everything to fit into radio bandwidths far more than they used to).

It really hasn't been a great year for big-label country so far, has it? I forget, did Carrie's record come out late last year? What about Allison Moorer's record? No Depression gave it a good review, ditto Chris Neal in the Scene; I frankly haven't had the heart to listen to it, since I disliked her last depressive Stones/Aerosmith ripoff so much. And she's married to Steve Earle? How is that, for god's sake? And I tried to like Ralph Stanley's new collection of Carter Family songs, but I just can't get into it at all.

So far, Jessi Colter's record might be my fave, followed by Jamey Johnson's debut, followed by Blaine L.

And Talley's reissue, that's amazing.

I don't know right now if there's been any thought put into the Scene's country poll. I guess I could find out. I am supposed to go have a beer with Tracy Moore the new Scene music editor at some point soon, and maybe I'll ask her then.

I do know that the best *record* MADE in Nashville I have heard so far this year is Lone Official's "Tuckassee Take." A Nevers production. And OK, I am a well-known sucker for that sound of Television-style guitars and Pavement semi-skronk, and this record definitely plays off those conventions, but I swear it's an impossibly elegant record, with gorgeous pedal steel that's used intelligently and organically, and thematically, it's about as southern-fried as you can get--the leader Matt Button hails from Looieville Ky. and is obsessed with horseracing, betting, and feeling bereft in the Big City of Nashville, and I think he's an amazing, droll lyricist, and the record sounds amazing. I mean, most Nashville pop bands are so lame--there's a crop of them right now that everyone's raving about, like Lylas, the Pink Spiders, the Clutters, and many more, and try as I might they all sound like the Zombies deballed. No meaningful eccentricity, all toeing the indie partyline, where, to my ears, Lone Offical sound genuinely nuts, genuinely obsessed...and you know me, I often think Nashville lacks true obsession when it comes to pop music, real mania. (We're back now to the overly apollonian demo-thing.)

But I stray from country, and now back to giving Ronnie's CD one last spin before I do my final draft.


edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 16:35 (twenty years ago)

My lists might be more varied if I was on any promo lists; I tend to cherrypick from what I glean from CMT, and buy the albums myself. No order yet.

Singles:
"Life Ain't Always Beautiful," Gary Allan
"Are You Sincere," Bobby Bare
"Settle for a Slowdown," Dierks Bentley
"Believe," Brooks & Dunn
"Living In Fast Forward," Kenny Chesney
"Can't Let Go," Anthony Hamilton*
"Bring It On Home," Little Big Town
"I Still Miss Someone," Martina McBride with Dolly Parton
"When the Stars Go Blue," Tim McGraw
"The Seashores of Old Mexico," George Strait
"Your Man," Josh Turner
"Don't Forget to Remember Me," Carrie Underwood

*Haven't decided if I'm actually gonna include this - I mean, to me he's pretty gutbucket soul, which says/signifies country to me. Anyone else? I mean, I know his last album got some Scene votes...

Albums:
Taking the Long Way, Dixie Chicks
Brokeback Mountain, Soundtrack**
Precious Memories, Alan Jackson
The Road to Here, Little Big Town
Greatest Hits, Volume 2, Tim McGraw***
Your Man, Josh Turner
Stand Still Look Pretty, the Wreckers
Living with War, Neil Young**

**Technically December '05, I think. Voting for it anyway. If there's a poll, that is.
***Technically this isn't a reissue? That's how I'd classify it, but...
****Again, not sure if I'd call this country, but it's kinda got that feel, at least in spots.

Reissues:
16 Biggest Hits, Johnny Cash and June Carter Cash
(That's all so far, though the Big Bill Broonzy box thing might make it on.)

Anyone know how best to get on promo lists, particularly from companies that still send out little shiny metal discs via the mail?

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:07 (twenty years ago)

Promo lists: I dunno, sometimes it just happens. Send a million emails to a million publicity departments, and you may get on a few. Right now, I'm trying to figure out how to get *back* onto promo lists that I was on only a couple months ago, when I was employed.

Today's mail looks promising, though, from a country perspective, and I'm guessing may well effect my year-end reissues ballot:

Tom T Hall *The Definitive Collection* (Hip-O) (Lots of overlap from *The Essential Tom T Hall,* it looks like, but quite a few tracks differ, and that was on vinyl and this one's a CD so there you go)

Ronnie Milsap *My Life* (see below)

Povertyneck Hillbillies *Povertyneck Hillbillies* (on Rust Records out of Ohio; their first "national" album, supposedly, though most if not all of the songs if not recordings look like they're repeated from the locally released Pittsburgh album *Don't Look Back* I mentioned up above, which I swear was in no way a demo to my ears.)

Johnny Rodriguez *20th Century Masters: The Millenium Collection* (this is the one I'm most excited about! I've always wondered about him, and never heard enough to have an opinion. We'll see. Oddly, he appears to have the same haircut as Ronnie Milsap on HIS CD cover.) (I'm excited about the Milsap, too. Edd, I'm just curious: Any idea what Milsap's *nationality* is? These photos are making me curious.)

The 2006 (mostly) country reissue I've still yet to get to the bottom of (thanks to it having two discs and 46 songs) is the Yazoo *The Stuff That Dreams Are Made Of* comp I mention way upthread somewhere. That could wind up on my list, if I ever decide one way or another whether it's got enough songs I need to keep on my shelf.

xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:33 (twenty years ago)

The Milsap is his new one, xhuxk?
And rather than wade through the 1K+ messages upthread, what do you (and anyone else) think of the Yazoo comp (so far)? I've been flirting with that one...

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:40 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, that's my whole point; I dunno. Seems way too daunting to try to play it start to end, but in my 5 CD changer it's hard to get a grasp on what I've heard and what I haven't. There are definitely some great tracks though. Just this morning I decided that I absolutely prefer "Wild Cat Rag" by Asa Martin & Roy Hobbs to "Sweet Mama" by Yank Rachel with Sleepy John Estes and Jim Jones, fwiw. (As for what I say about it upthead, why not just search the CD's name?)

And yeah, that's the new Milsap. Sounds good so far!


And Thomas, Matt Cibula talks about Anthony Hamilton in re: country upthead. And Little Big Town's album is technically old, from last fall; I voted for it last year, though I wish I'd rated it higher. (And Edd, yeah, Carrie Underwear came out around Thanksgiving I think. The problem with these dumb literal release date rules in critics' polls is that late-year releases tend to get screwed, especially when they're the sort of pop-oriented albums which don't really make their greatness known until they break a couple hit singles. Which is why Pazz&Jop stopped using the rule back in 1979.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:47 (twenty years ago)

what the heck, Thomas, here's me upthead (i.e., not much, and since I left "That" out of the title it might've been hard to search):

>Also slowly exploring the two-disc, R Crumb-artworked new Yazoo comp *The Stuff Dreams are Made Of: The Dead Sea Scrolls of Record Collecting!: Super Rarities and Unisseued Gems of the 1920s and 1930s.* Quite a hodgepodge, united as the title suggests not by genre but merely by how hard the records are to find, never a good sign, but I'm liking pretty much all of it regardless and loving lots of it, including tracks by Dock Boggs, Andrew & Jim Baxter, Ollis Martinn, the Three Stripped Gears, and especially Wilmer Watts and the Lonely Eagles. Those are all on disc 1; haven't touched disc 2 yet. <

xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 18:03 (twenty years ago)

Thanks, xhuxk. And yeah, dumb me forgot about Little Big Town being '05; same thing with Carrie's album (which, fortunately, I voted for last year). I'm so with you on the whole literal release date thing, grrrr. Heck, if that doesn't apply this year, I'll vote for Carrie's album again, and it'll probably be my #1 (in the Scene poll, I mean).

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 18:33 (twenty years ago)

Well, I woudn't have followed Himes's literal release date "rule" (I'd already broken several of his rules in prev years, big shit), but did follow the thought that the Fonototone sampler was promo-only, at that point, since box samplers usually come out later, once the bloom is off the geek fever,if any(as far as I knew, but should have followed up that thought by checking). xpost remember Rosanne Cash's 10-Song Demo? She also said it was the exec's idea to put that out, rather than re-recording. Dunno about Nashville, but Kate Bush and others have said they've been frustrated by inability to transfer the basic feel of the demo to the Real Studio product, which might be one reason she takes so long (so why doesn't *she* put out demos? Hooked on the grandiosity of R.S.? Maybe she feels as committed to the system as most of the remaining major label country stars, and those who are so determined to be major, etc., at least at this point). (Good thread about Dynamic Range Compression, that's in the title.) xpost Tuckassee Take: that's the Lone Official's T for Tucky, T for Tennessee take on things, eh? Yeah, my old Kentucky Woman, b. in TN, is as passionate, talented, "nuts and eccentric" as can be, and I sure do miss her. But even at a presumably safe distance--well yall know email was made for moodswings and mine/mindfield tirades (but I'll have to check out the L.O. for sure)

don (dow), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 23:54 (twenty years ago)

what nationality is Ronnie Milsap? good question. he almost looks like he's got some "native American" (don't know what else to call it) in him. he grew up in the western part of N. Carolina, and went to a school for the blind in Raleigh. so, could be he's part Cherokee or something?

his "Day in the Life of America" is pretty great on the new 'un; sort of an answer record to Lee Dorsey's great "God Must Have Blessed America" from his last LP, "Night People" (which has been reissued on CD, and highly recommended to those who're like me and can't get enough Allen Toussaint). (and musing on Lee and Allen and country music the other day over a few beers with friends, we decided that Lee Dorsey could've easily applied his liquid voice to country music! there's nothing on the face of the earth that makes me happier than hearing Lee Dorsey sing.)

and good point about Carrie U. and end-of-year stuff. One record I forgot to mention that I really like is Shawn Camp's "Fireball." Excellent piece on him in the new No Depression--I had no idea of the breadth of his talent and accomplishments. Goes hunting with John Anderson, has songs covered by Blake Shelton, hung out with and wrote songs with Roger Miller's son, plays a mean mandolin and guitar, was a respected sideman, and got his second album axed by his label because it didn't sound like John Michael Montgomery! G. Himes did a piece on Shawn for the Scene and I originally thought Himes had really overstated his case; I still think he overstated it a little bit, but that's a really fine record, sorta the modern Billy Swan I guess.

Finally, heard from Yuval Taylor, who's writing a book on the '70s and is somehow making a connection between Big Star's Radio City, Gary Stewart's Your Place or Mine and John Prine's Common Sense. I had made Yuval a burn of that great Stoney Edwards LP, "Mississippi You're on My Mind," and he declared, "Man, that is the greatest country record of the '70s!" It's so nice to have friends who are such enthusiasts.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 01:04 (twenty years ago)

Jeez, Chilton, Stewart, *and* the Dark Rind Of The Prine! That's one frenched frenz connection I don't wanna think about right now (not no more please). Thomas, I think Haiku said somebody sent him a book to review just because of freelancementalists, not because they knew about his pro writing. (He did review it and I could look it up in Archives, what he said about who sent it etc., but I gotta crash now) So, whether that was the exact deal or not, it might well be now, so try telling 'em about your fine blog (might call it a "blogzine"?), couldn't hurt. I bet some of the cdbaby artists would go for it, at least (not "least" quality-wise). Oh yeah, saw Brandi or Brandy Carlisle on some late night show recently, real good young pop, then saw her in newspaper, captioned "country singer." Is she that, or a bit of that, a bit of other, like Hope Partlow, Leanne Kingwell? (I'm guessing she's less country,and less teenpop in the usual-to-extremo sense, than Partlow, more so than Kingwell.) In same paper, a recent picture of The Duhks' Jessica onstage, hair still short and white, but soft, nimbic even, not spikey, Tattoos across collarbone and shoulders kinda bluegreen algae though, at least in newsprint.

don (dow), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 04:28 (twenty years ago)

maybe this should be best single (or best reissue?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGsl0IXPZGI&search=dr%20hook%20cover%20rolling%20stone

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 06:44 (twenty years ago)

i know its not really country, but this one might beat it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgYe-XEHYDo

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 10:37 (twenty years ago)

Wow, just saw Martina do "Til I Can't Make It On My Own," on Tonight Show. Gaw-juss! Strongest and bluesest (feeling-wise, not literally) since "Where Would You Be," at the CMT Video Awards, back when they were still called Flameworthy: little thumbsup, with a virtual flame flickering out of the tip, like out of a lighter, down in corner of screen, the whole time she reached for the heavens, in her gleaming white pants suit and bodice, and couples slow-danced in the aisles. Long hair that night and now, she should always have it, makes her strong! xxhuxx said that Timeless, the covers album this is from, aint' so good, though (who did this song originally?)

don (dow), Thursday, 22 June 2006 04:04 (nineteen years ago)

That's a Tammy Wynette tune. Great song.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 22 June 2006 04:41 (nineteen years ago)

i doubt she can out tammy tammy

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 22 June 2006 07:59 (nineteen years ago)

She can't, Anthony, but she's not trying - she's just giving the song her own spin. I'm a big fan of Timeless myself; it made both my Scene and P&J ballots last year. The album of McBride's career, hands-down.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Thursday, 22 June 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't hate Timeless the way some did. It feels a little clinical, a little lacking in imagination, but it sounds good in the background and Martina has rarely sung so craftily.

New No Depression showed up today. Just started Edd's long feature on Frank Black. Also long pieces on Candi Staton, Irma Thomas, Elvis and Allen, and Los Lonely Boys.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

Timeless seemed useless to me -- A good singer following the rules, playing teacher's pet to the Defenders of Good Taste. Her previous album was infinitly more interesting. But I've said this before.

New Ronnie Milsap album is great, for his singing if for nothing else. I'm astounded. Has he always been this good? My favorite cut is "Somehwere Dry," but at least four other cuts ("It's All Coming Back to Me Now," "My Life," "Time Keeps Slipping Away," "Local Girls") are on the level of "A Day in the Life Of America," which Edd rightly raved about up above. Most of the others aren't bad; only one I can't stand is the closer, "Accept My Love" (= "except my love," yuck), which my CD changer naturally kept graviting toward. One of these days I'll get more specific songwise; right now, I'd say it's got a shot at my top ten on basis of listenability alone. And as far as ease of r&b soul emoting goes, I'd say Ronnie's right up there with T. Graham Brown, at least judging from this album.

Nowhere near as good (which might say something about how great the Milsap album is): Johnny Rodriguez's new hits CD, which mostly just passes right by me innofensively; not much to like, not much to dislike. The one great cut is "Ridin My Thumb to Mexico," which has only the slightest hint of Mexico (mere seconds of mariachi-like guitar) in its music; there's no Tex-Mex anywhere else (so much for Freddie Fender comparisons), though in "Love Put a Song in My Heart," where said stealer of goats comes closest to Christgau's Englebert Humperdink comparison in his '70s book, he does sing a line or two in Spanish. I also like the Mann/Weill penned "We're Over," and also "(Just Get Up And) Close the Door," and it's hard for me to dislike any version of the Eagles' "Desprado," I guess. Beyond that, shrug. Most of these were apparently # 1 c&w singles, bizarrely. Someday maybe somebody will explain how that happened.

The Tom T Hall best-of is a weird selection, schlockier and way less eccentric (since there's way more later stuff, and only one track from *In Search of a Song* for instance) than *The Essential Tom T Hall.* Only a couple of the cuts ("I Care," "You Show Me Your Heart I'll Show You Mine") make me cringe, though, and most of the later stuff would be pretty special coming from most anybody else. So, a pretty good intro for people who don't know him, and still pretty informative for me. A keeper. But not the one I'll usually put on.

xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Has that 2 CD Storyteller box of Tom T gone out of print? That's a pretty solid selection.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

the t ribute album is also shockingly excellent.

i dont hate mcbride usually, i dont like her, and i often find her middle class melodramatics either patronising, silly, or batshit insane (and only independce day worked), and people keep telling me that im wrong--and you know what, techincal singing doesnt mean shit to me, and shes too precise in her covers for the album to be interesting

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

Those two live-on-TV listening experiences I xposted are by far my best impressions of her, though never heard a whole album. She should do a live album, seems like. Nick Tosches wrote a Creem feature on Johnny Rod, who was then (the late 70s, I think) one of the very few non-geezer country stars, or male starlets, as T. pointed out. So maybe that's why they let him do "Desperado" as a single or at all, and why it was a hit (he was an oasis/forerunner of the Young Country trend? Though when Hank Jr.led that "We Are Young Country" singalong single he was young mainly in comparison to Willie, etc) But also maybe why he had to cover the bases by sounding like Englebert, so as not scare off geezer (and geezerwashed) listeners? Just speculating. Also, country Biz wisdom was at lose ends then, not like now of course.

don (dow), Thursday, 22 June 2006 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

This new Ray Wylie Hubbard album is nasty and funny and loud electric blues. It's like an early ZZ Top album with a warped Okie preacher gesticulating about the animal kingdom and other sacred and sinful subjects. Like how "there are two kinds of people in the world: the day people and the night people. It's the night people's job to take the day people's money."

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 22 June 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

speaking of him ( the "Up Against The Wall, Redneck Mother" connection), I'm writing about Jerry Jeff Walker (yep, he's still around). Any thoughts, anybody?

don (dow), Friday, 23 June 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

i want to know more about him, what ive heard i love to peices.

anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 23 June 2006 06:13 (nineteen years ago)

new povertyneck hillbillies album on rust records turns out to be pretty much exactly the same as their album from last year on cort records, almost exactly the same song order even, with only the negligible "go crazy with my heart" and the non-negligible fastball cover "the way" (which i'm assuming they may have hit a legal royalties snag or something with) removed. the songs sure don't *sound* like they've been re-recorded or anything, though i could be wrong. bonus disc is a dvd, presumably the same one they'd put out on their own before (track listing looks very similar, and it's got a mini-documentary about them just like the earlier one did, but damned if i'm going to view them back to back to make 100 % sure...) anyway, it was a good album then, which means it's still good now.

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 23 June 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

I've always had a soft spot for JJW's early records, Driftin Way of Life and the self-titled album that has "Her Good Lovin Grace" and "Hill Country Rain" on it. He's the most folkie of the three-named Texans, and that can be kinda refreshing at times. Still, he's never really seemd to try very hard, which I suppose is better than trying too hard, but his songs (with the exception of Bojangles) are just really really light, like invisible air light, which, again, might be one of the appealing things about him. I have no clue if any of his post 80s records are any good.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

yep, Ronnie Milsap sings so damned well on the new 'un. I wish the songwriting were just a bit better, but shit, this is a good record. unfortunately, the first single "Local Girls" has stalled. Plans afoot to do an "Essential" on him later this yr. And, The Most Intelligent Use of Jew's-harp in a Country Song (This Year) in the first song. I even like the stoopid south-of-border thing he does where he mentions banana Moon Pies and Carlos Santana and a super-woman with year-round tan and limes (I heard it as "lines" the first time I heard it, shit, Ronnie, watch the drugs man!) in her purse. (Altho I am Eating Better these days, occasionally I gotta get a banana Moon Pie and microwave that thing; they're, like, enough calories for a third-world person for a day, but mighty good.)

I have never even *listened* to Jerry Jeff. But I'll ask anyway, even tho I am no fuckin' help: I'm interviewing Guy Clark next week, doing a thing on him for a brand-new outlet I'm beginning a Relationship with. What about 'im, anyone? I got about half-a-dozen of his records from various places, including the new one on Dualtone, and of course I got "Old #1" amongst them--so, are those 2 RCA records his best? I got some listening to do over the weekend!

Finally, Roy's obit of Grant McLennan might be the single best thing I have ever read on the Go-Betweens. "They sound rootless, nearly immune to the pleasures of R&B, soul and country." Beautiful. I have to say, I get sorta lumpen throat when I hear "Darlinghurst Nights" these days, because I'm sorta living with memories and death a bit too closely right now. Great tune. And Barry Mazor on Shawn Camp is just superb, too, as I pointed out above, I think.

Lone Official at Springwater last night here in Nville were just amazing. Not country, not even rock and roll, jazzy in that post-skronk way but just fucking tensile and intelligent, and above all heartfelt, even visionary. Whatever obsessions are fueling their leader, Matt Button, keep at it; and their new package of 3 45s he graciously gave me at the show is just amazing, too--graphically and musically briliant, suggesting: some kind of new post-Southern southern mythopoeia, Robert E. Lee ain't dead at all and staggers drunkenly thru a subdivision that sits on the Battle of Nashville site and makes a collect call to bet on the Preakness, and when he loses his money shoots himself outside the Ryman Auditorium. Again: I think their "Tuckassee Take" is some kind of brilliant record, definitely on my top ten of the year at this moment.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, Edd, ask Guy about Jerry Jeff, apparently they met in Houston, waaay back, and collaborated in various senses at various times, according to various accounts (lots of shit talked about JJW, but some of it is true, apparently). Good Guy tracks on the Heartworn Highways comp, listening companion to the early 70s doc, expanded on recent DVD, I think (CD and DVD each have songs that didn't make the original movie, and the DVD has some the CD doesn't, but not sure how that applies to Guy specifically; then again, it was filmed in his and Susannah's house and yard, so def worth checking out). One of his songs on the CD is about pirates along the Texas coast: picaresque, even! Lots of funny songs on that album, but didn't know he ever did stuff like that (tend to agree with comments on robertchristgau.com about tendencies toward sonic tightness and dryness on his own albums, esp. his voice; one of those good writers who can be too self-censoring, seems like)(but some good material for others, of course)(though always bugged me how often the chorus of "Desperados Waiting For A Train" keeps slamming into the mood of the verses--I know, it's supposed to be jarring, but becomes annoying/moneyshot, like in "Angel From Montgomery," though some vocalists have made those work anyway)I will def have to check out Lone Official!

don (dow), Friday, 23 June 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

Edd, stop. But gracias all the same. Anyways, Guy Clark: worst phone interview I've ever had in my long short life. I swear to god there was a point in between questions that I could hear the ice clink in his bourbon over the line. I wanted to crawl into a hole and croak. I bailed and asked if I could speak to Susannah. That went better. Which album is the best? Impossible to say. Old Friends means a lot to me (has one of Emmylou's greatest harmony parts on the title cut) and Boats to Build is terrific. But that live overview, Keepers, is pretty remarkable. When he's on, he can cut more performers than you'd guess. Email me if you need stuff. And, fuck, email me anyway with contact for Lone Official. I need to hear these guys.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 24 June 2006 04:36 (nineteen years ago)

thanks, Don and Roy. Roy, I'll stop; I just kinda fell in love with that last Go-Betweens record, quite unexpectedly, like when you see a woman you thought was plain and then one day you realize you can't get her out of your head, and she looks beautiful. And ditto "Horsebreaker Star," which is just great.

I got that LO record from Mark Nevers; it's apparently only out as a UK Honest Jons import, altho I think Astralwerks is planning a release sometime later this year. I'll see about burning you a copy, Roy; I have no idea how to get a promo from Honest Jons, and I guess I need to find out in Astralwerks has any they can send.

Guy Clark: yeah, I think it's a bit pinched, sonically, and "Desperadoes" does kinda strike me as clunky. I mean I have to confess, that whole Austin myth, I've never bought it, and I just don't know about any song with "Desperadoes" in it. But he's good, and I think I get why so many love him, and the Austin thing. I hope he's not drinking bourbon when I talk to him (if he is, he'd better go ahead and offer me some!), the interview's supposed to happen at noon so who knows.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

the *verses* of "Desperadoes Waiting For A Train" were good: kid gradually coming to see the limitations of his childhood idol, and then...But the chorus is overdone: maybe overwritten, esp compared to verses, and contrast, which could be jarring to good effect, gets annoying. Same deal with "Angel From Montgomery": one of the best verses I've ever heard in any song is, "How the hell can a person/go to work in the mornin/come home every evenin/and have nothin to say?" To that tune, especially. Be interesting to hear both choruses maybe just at the end of the song, that could be killer, Ah suspect. Turns out Jerry Jeff's got a song, "Blue Mood, " that seems to be a letter to Guy, saying he's heard they ripped off Susannah's songs, just like they did Fred Neil's. Maybe that's why she never seemed to write amny, as far as I knew. "I'll Be Your San Antonio Rose," and-? That's the only one I can think of now.

don (dow), Saturday, 24 June 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure there are more but Sussana also wrote or co-wrote "Come From the Heart" ("Dance like nobody's watching..."), "Black Haired Boy," "Old Friends" and one of my favorite Guy songs "The Cape." I gotta dissent from the dissent about Desperados. I think it's one of the most moving and vivid and honest songs about growing up and growing old I've ever heard. And the refrain is perfect. How could it be anything but an ironic take on Texas/Western myth? It's hardly glorification and it's a mistake to separate that refrain from the narrative. Growing up, the boy felt like he and the old man were cool desperados, and the boy wants to go on believing that. But no, he finds out. An idol who the boy once saw as a legend from a Western movie turns out to be another sad, pathetic old man with tobacco juice dripping down his chin. But a man still worth loving. The man, by the way, is a real person: Clark's grandmother's boyfriend, a wildcat well driller, who taught Guy how to "whittle, spit, cuss, drive a car and sit up straight."

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 24 June 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I get what he's trying to do, and does do, basically. I've probably heard too many of the wrong (tearjerking and/or labored) versions. But Coe does it pretty well, in the midst of other songs about trying to face mixed feelings/images re heritages, a good theme for the time especially, on Mysterious Rhinestone Cowboy.

don (dow), Saturday, 24 June 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

This has nada to do with country, but: Jesus H. Christ. THE BELLRAYS. Believe the hype, even if there isn't any. I just saw one of the best live shows in like forever.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 25 June 2006 05:41 (nineteen years ago)

heard good things about them, tellus about it! Speaking of Jerry Jeff speaking of Susannah Clark's songs, here's a bit of her "We Were Kinda Crazy Then," which he recorded:
We were kinda crazy then, needin lovers more than friends,
Songs on my guitar, you said were like flowers for your scars,
May you find a friend tonight, may he finally treat you right,
Can you find the same moon I been starin at all night.
Always keep your moon shinin, like some bullet bright,
While this old world wears its heart like a big bullseye,
Don't you ever let them teach you the right from the wrong,
But did you ever find out who wrote that pretty song.
We were kinda crazy then, needin lovers more than friends,
Songs on my guitar, well they're there for you, they always are,
May you find a friend tonight, may he finally treat you right,
Can you find that same moon I been starin out tonight.
There's a man in the moon, darlin'.

don (dow), Sunday, 25 June 2006 07:02 (nineteen years ago)

> THE BELLRAYS. Believe the hype<

Not on their records, you shouldn't. (Live, I've been told otherwise. But the idea that she's a "soul singer" or "Tina Turner" or whatever people call her these days is totally wishful thinking.) (And are people still comparing her band to the MC5? Jeez...)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 25 June 2006 08:05 (nineteen years ago)

I've only heard a few cuts from the new album, which I like, and I think Lisa Kekaula can be called a "soul singer" without doing violence to the term. I wouldn't go so far as "Tina Turner" or the MC5 though. They were hellacious last night--gnashing and thrashing and crashing about on stage, jumping into the crowd--but I'd had a few beers!

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 25 June 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I suppose she's got more soul music in her singing than the chick in The Gossip (or the guy in TV on the Radio), I'll give her that. (But actually, I liked Lisa K's album with Now Time Delegation a few years back more than any of the Bellrays stuff I've heard.)

Either way, glad you had fun at her show! I should see her sometime.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 25 June 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

Well Tina x MC5= Good Idea, anyway. xpost hey Thomas, you review for Stylus, that should be legit enough to qualify you for promos, if all your own blogs aren't. Don't you get any that way, since they have a "Promos Director" and all...?

don (dow), Sunday, 25 June 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Not from major labels.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Monday, 26 June 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

I've decided that I've been drastically overrating Carter Falco's album (which nobody else has even noticed existed, so no harm done) on this thread. I still like it -- he's a ramblin' man with decent tuneage -- but the dude just plain doesn't have much of a singing voice. Which might explain why he's buddies with Shooter Jennings.

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 26 June 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

gary bennett human condition, i really like.

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 26 June 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

actually i might not, im confused by it

also anne powers is a genius:
http://www.calendarlive.com/music/cl-et-kenny19jun19,0,4820682.story?coll=cl-nav-music

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

Apropos of nothing in particular I was listening to "The Bumper of My SUV" last night and it occurred to me that the little piano figure at the start (it's repeated later in the song) sounds just like the opening notes of the French national anthem, which may be some kind of melodic Freudian slip.

On a soul-country thing, (which I know we were for a little while a while back) while in the States I picked up an LP by Diana Trask called "Miss Country Soul", produced by Buddy Killen in 1969, as far as I can tell featuring largely Joe Tex-related material, sleevenotes by Joe himself. It's about as convincing as Joe's "Stone Soul Country", i.e. not completely but has some fascinating bits and some brilliant bits. Diana sings fairly straight country 1969 style (i.e. a mixture of pretty much every singing style available to humanity). She tends to fall down with the uptempo numers: SYSLJFM is a worse version even that the Q-Tips', and that's saying something.

Seeing George Jones play live to a mostly-pensionable Lancaster, PA audience was an experience, I can tell you.

Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Toby Keith's *White Trash With Money,* which nobody else has much talked about, really holds up. Just played it this morning for the first time in over and month or two, and I'm now rating it as the year's best Nashville country album, hands down. Is "A Little Too Late" the new single (with the reportedly antifeminist dungeon six-feet-under video, which I still haven't seen)? If so, people should try to hear it apart from the video, because to my ears it's got some of Toby's most explicit soul phrasing ever. Also, I don't think I'd noticed before how good "Can't Buy You Money" is. Only real sore spot: the obligatory numbskull political statement "Ain't No Right Way," which sounds more lame ever time I hear it, and also naggingly sincere, hence way less fun than Tony's usual numbskull politics.

Tim, you're right that that's a real good Kenny Chesney article by Ann Powers (though "Jump" is hardly Van Halen at their most metal!)

All this talk (much of it by me) of soul-country obviously makes me feel very stupid for getting rid of the Charlie Rich albums I used to own; he's clearly the father of this stuff if anybody is (though late '60s Memphis Elvis clearly figures, and I bet Glen Campbell, too.) Also, what about Joe South? I need to research him one of these days. And how good was O.C. Smith' non-green-apples stuff??

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

TOBY'S not Tony's numbskull etc, duh.

New video still doesn't seem to be up on youtube (country youtubers are slow! or maybe just busy in the summer), but I did enjoy this description by "jerryleekersey" of the video for "He Ain't Worth Missing" (which I don't recall ever hearing/seeing before, myself):

"man, this chick in this video is HOT! i mean HOTTT! video is from toby's early days, video is about this girl sitting at the bar with her ex in the same bar and she keeps looking at her ex with his new girlfriend, while toby is just hoping to get sloppy seconds from her. video is pretty good, what would have made this video great was them two girl cats fight and toby break it up and get both of them chicks later. Be sure to check out my other videos."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Mp4zFo7PI&search=toby%20keith

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha, more from jerrleekersey:

"loverboy-this could be the night
04:12
i absolutely love this song!, cant get better than this one. i wished the radio station played tunes like this again. things i miss are stone washed 550 strait leg levis, velcro wallets, izod, dirt-shirts and most of all i miss my mullet!"

"rosanne cash-i dont know why you dont want me
03:21
good video, damn shes a cutie! great song, great on the eyes as well. love that spike hairdo. rare video here/ Be sure to check out my other videos.If you'd like a cd of my RARE VIDEOS for FREE you pay the shipping of the cd, let me know."

"quarterflash-take me to heart
03:32
its 4 in the morning and i am posting videos for all to see. i hope you enjoy this one, i noticed it wasnt on here, so here it is! enjoy. Be sure to check out my other videos. If you'd like a cd of my RARE VIDEOS for FREE you pay the shipping of the cd, let me know."

"lita ford-lisa
04:15
she was a babe in the day!"

"heart-stranded
04:00
This is off the brigade album. great video and song. Nancy's voice on this one equally matches Ann's. I think I actually like this song above all heart songs. NOTES: drummer looks like he's bored out of his mind. also nancy gives thumbs up at the end as if to say hey i dig that you bought this album, then she points as if to say hey security, theres the guy who is currently "stalking" me. cause i left him STRANDED! Be sure to check out my other videos. If you'd like a cd of my RARE VIDEOS for FREE you pay the shipping of the cd, let me know."

"air supply-making love out of nothing at all
05:03
soap opera acting at its best. i dig this song though. listening to air supply is like riding a moped, fun to ride just dont let your buddies catch you! girls melt when you play air supply, pour her some iced cold coke a cola with secret hint of crown royal. boom your the man! thank you air supply! blame your 1st kid on "slipping a mickie""

"julian lennon-valotte
04:16
great song and video, this is one of those songs that you can sit on park bench and watch birds poop on your lunch basket and not care. relax and enjoy this great video."

"richard marx-dont mean nothing
04:26
video is great, cynthia rhodes is one hot babe in this video, richard got the hit, got the girl, he got the money, dang! just goes to show you the mullet wasn't that bad! it worked for him, it still works for gloverboy, i say if you can grow it, go for it, you may reap the riches"

"huey lewis and the news-if this is it
04:28
recently saw huey and band, great show in memphis in may. gloverboy and i and our ladies got a little wet from rain, but IT WAS WORTH IT! i owe huey a christmas card, his show got me some from the ole'lady later that night. thanks huey! Be sure to check out my other videos. If you'd like a cd of my RARE VIDEOS for FREE you pay the shipping of the cd, let me know."

"cliff richard-we dont talk anymore
03:58
i remember hearing this song on the radio in 1981 and thought it was cool. its still cool! great all around. I used to have a shirt like that one he's wearing. I never danced like that though. but who cares, what i remember about those days is if you didnt have a jacket with the sleeves that zipped on and off you werent cool. i didnt become cool until last year when i "FINALLY" got that jacket. LOL. Be sure to check out my other videos. If you'd like a cd of my RARE VIDEOS for FREE you pay the shipping of the cd, let me know."

okay, I will stop now, I guess.

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

MORE PLZ - that dude's awesome. i'm gonna hafta try that 'air supply + iced cold coca-cola with a secret hint of crown royal' trick.

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

ok, james asked for it; here's a few more by jerryleekersey (but I'm gonna leave out all the "get my CD of RARE VIDEOS" stuff this time). (Seeing how this is the country thread, I should note that his favorite country band seems to possibly be Little Texas. I have no Little Texas opinions, but should maybe watch their videos sometime):

rick springfield-human touch
04:31
video reminds me of a prefab buck rogers except rick and some of nasa's best jumpsuit beauties break out into dance and then captain rick pushed the wrong buttons and they have to go back into shower glasses only to emerge when rick can write another hit song.

rick springfield-rock of life
03:49
video i think rick is saying in 1988 i hate my lfe as a married man, he is also saying i miss getting young chicks so i guess i wont cut my hair! great video! pyromaniac director though!

rick springfield-bop till you drop
04:54
bop till you drop video is about "the man" deciding if you can do a good job singing than you can stay and work, maybe cleaning java the hut urinal later. great classic! i first saw this video on night flight and friday night videos back in the 80's when all we had was 5 channels on tv. dang im old!

kiss- i was made for loving you
03:56
kiss doing disco song. whats the big deal, they didnt sell out then. its a great song, great drum beat. if anything they sold out when they put back on the makeup and had a farewell tour that lasted for 10 yrs, the only thing worst is an ex girlfriend saying im leaving, im leaving, then is still standing in your doorway 15 min later. I love kiss. they are a great band.

martika-toy soldiers
04:53
when i first heard the song, i didnt know it was a song about being hooked on drugs.

lou gramm-midnight blue
03:41
classic one here, man it was hard to find this one. the person i got this video from was from australia, he said "good tidings mate"!

anita baker-caught up in the rapture
01:54
cool video all around, video is kinda short, but great song, anita baker is great, i have always been a fan, nothing better after banging out to quiet riot then play anita for your headache, easy listening!

reo speedwagon-that aint love
04:37
great song here, did i mention that all my videos i am posting are rare, well this one is rare like finding your old pair of jimmy conners adidas's in the shed and washing them and wearing them again. gloverboy knows which shoes im talking about "the green mesh ones".

The Outfield-All the love in the world
03:40
Finding this video was like finding a $20 dollar bill in an old jacket, and not telling your wife about it! just take the money and buy yourself some taco bell, hell go on a splurge with the $20.00, buy the supreme.


xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 29 June 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)


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