Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

and lil wayne (since he obviously wants to appear on every recording evar)

none of the Dave fanatics stuck around on the board did they?

from last night: dancing to dave matthews

has the critical reappraisal of DMB on ILM started with that poll?

As I sit on my couch recovering from last week's surgery and reacquaint myself with ILM after a looooong hiatus, I'm reminded that this thread (especially the first fifth) is surely a high-water mark of Western civilization.

Ok... his voice is like nails on a chalkboard and he is gay

― Jordan Bass, Saturday, October 18, 2003 5:33 PM (7 years ago)

this thread ain't so big now

never forget

Which is WORSE: What Would You Say vs. Zombie

Dave Matthews is one of rock's most underrated Pretty Complex Dudes – as horny as Lil Wayne, as troubled as Thom Yorke, able to growl "war is the most vulgar madness" like the American Sting he's always sort of been. He's got a beige-Baja-shirt rep and a black-turtleneck soul.

The first DMB record in more than three years (and the first in over a decade produced by Steve Lillywhite, who helmed their mid-Nineties albums) serves up the Matthews magic in all its musically tight, emotionally bumfuzzled splendor: from the sex-as-food funk-pop romp "Belly Belly Nice," to the relationship SOS "The Riff," where Matthews sings, "I don't know the man living in my head/If I don't know the woman sleeping in my bed," to op-eds against political apathy like the fragilely beautiful "Mercy."

Lillywhite's sympathetic production and the rich band interplay, steeped in New Orleans R&B, lithe jazz fusion and nimbly driving jam rock, make for uncluttered songs that at times recall Clinton-era glories (the elegant slow build of "Mercy" is just a hacky-sack flip away from 1996's "Crash Into Me"; it could've soundtracked the shit out of a Friends montage).

And yet, this is no nostalgia trip back to the quad. Even songs that luxuriate in strummy romantic escapism take midlife head-on: "I'm too old to wanna be younger now," the 45-year-old sings on the gingerly intimate "Sweet." He wears his grown-'n-grumpy honesty like a champ.

3 1/2 stars

the sex-as-food funk-pop romp "Belly Belly Nice,"

Has this guy hit the stage in his career now where even his fanbase don't really care about a new album?

Clinton-era glories

I remember reading that story about when his tour bus showered a boat in the Chicago River with sewage several years ago and thinking "ah, there's a metaphor for his entire career".

Art!

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/03/06/dave-matthewss-second-act-silkscreen-painting/

...great.

emotionally bumfuzzled splendor.....

alcohol-infused orange juice

this is no nostalgia trip back to the quad

http://gawker.com/couple-driving-to-dave-matthews-show-spots-a-hitchhikin-786539838

That's how he solved the poopbus problem all those years back, he just bikes to shows.

i was about to post that. not for the story so much as the accompanying video where Dave tells the story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUR-36lNhp0

what is with that voice thing he does?!

bi-si-ckle....rackonit.

That might as well be a Dave Matthews shreds video.

Cool story, brah-si-ckle.

They were lucky they didn't crash into him.

he must have hiked up his skirt etc

how does the entire audience not just walk out of the show when he starts with that voice

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/9/3/10/enhanced-buzz-26086-1378219161-10.jpg

Do frat kids still listen to this guy, or can we write this off as a 90s/early 00s phenomenon once and for all?

as of a few years ago my college-age cousins were reporting he was still a thing with frats. so, anecdotal evidence there.

http://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/af8fc3ab07014f81292195b8d531664a/tumblr_n2a9t4zGHw1rck6i3o1_500.jpg

is he shitting out his own skeleton or

#overcomingmaterialism

Man, this thread

that picture is amazing

more like

#comingovermaterialism

his cup is overflowing

CONTENTION: Dave Matthews is actually a halfway-decent crooner*—nice warm timbre & natural-sounding phrasing, never pushes his voice too far beyond its range, sticks close to the melody—it's just a shame that his lyrics read like something a music teacher crowd-sourced from first-graders, e.g. "Sweet like candy to my soul / Sweet you rock and... sweet you roll"

* obviously the funky-honky jam-band numbers like "What Would You Say" are another story entirely, and I would rather listen to an entire Blues Traveler album than be subjected to that song's chorus even one more time

also, it's weird (to me) that I never hear "Satellite" anymore—I remember it getting airplay in the 90s, and I've always found it the most listenable song in his catalog (again, ignoring lyrical stinkbombs like "Who's the king of your satellite castle?")

Yeah, Satellite sold me that DMB album. Didn't last long for me, but I love playing along with that guitar part. Regardless, it's still a hell of a lot better than Crash, which I still hear all the time.

loved.

I've never really listened to Incubus (who seem to be popular with the same crowd?) but for some reason always had the impression that their starry-eyed prog-lite stylings could be traced directly back to that guitar part

Yeah, I could hear that.

I love the (3+ minute) coda on #41 through the intro of Say Goodbye.

this band released an album with a "Magic Eye" cover. basically started chillwave iirc.

I think 'before these crowded streets' is actually one of the better mainstream albums to emerge from that jam band scene, it's just made with such skill and clarity of purpose.

haven't listened to it in ages but i'm pretty sure i'd still like the kronos quartet jam off of 'before these crowded streets,' "the stone"

CONTENTION: Dave Matthews is actually a halfway-decent crooner*—nice warm timbre & natural-sounding phrasing, never pushes his voice too far beyond its range, sticks close to the melody—it's just a shame that his lyrics read like something a music teacher crowd-sourced from first-graders, e.g. "Sweet like candy to my soul / Sweet you rock and... sweet you roll"

* obviously the funky-honky jam-band numbers like "What Would You Say" are another story entirely, and I would rather listen to an entire Blues Traveler album than be subjected to that song's chorus even one more time

― Many American citizens are literally paralyzed by (bernard snowy), Tuesday, April 1, 2014 8:58 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also, it's weird (to me) that I never hear "Satellite" anymore—I remember it getting airplay in the 90s, and I've always found it the most listenable song in his catalog (again, ignoring lyrical stinkbombs like "Who's the king of your satellite castle?")

― Many American citizens are literally paralyzed by (bernard snowy), Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:16 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, Satellite sold me that DMB album. Didn't last long for me, but I love playing along with that guitar part. Regardless, it's still a hell of a lot better than Crash, which I still hear all the time.

― how's life, Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:27 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

loved.

― how's life, Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:27 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've never really listened to Incubus (who seem to be popular with the same crowd?) but for some reason always had the impression that their starry-eyed prog-lite stylings could be traced directly back to that guitar part

― Many American citizens are literally paralyzed by (bernard snowy), Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:43 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I could hear that.

― how's life, Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:46 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I love the (3+ minute) coda on #41 through the intro of Say Goodbye.

― IKEA metaballs (Spottie), Tuesday, April 1, 2014 12:24 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this band released an album with a "Magic Eye" cover. basically started chillwave iirc.

― Belgian Flanders Albums Chart (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, April 1, 2014 12:56 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think 'before these crowded streets' is actually one of the better mainstream albums to emerge from that jam band scene, it's just made with such skill and clarity of purpose.

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, April 1, 2014 1:20 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haven't listened to it in ages but i'm pretty sure i'd still like the kronos quartet jam off of 'before these crowded streets,' "the stone"

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, April 1, 2014 3:26 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm going to be dim and ask if someone's going to pop out and go "april fools!!!"????

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Many songs would be pretty if on acoustic guitar only with lyrics removed.