The Pet Shop Boys' first twenty singles...

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doc do you really think the league's 13-20 beats the psb's 13-20??

(i admit between 1-12 it's a tough call.)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate to say it Dr C but it tails off after 1983. I don't think the Pet Shop Boys made a record as good as "Tell Me When" after my list ended though.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

If you don't like "Human" you may already be an evil robot intent on destroying the world.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't agree with you Tom - Beatles moptop stuff (e.g'Help'- think about the complexity of the vocals) is waaay more crafted and arranged than many 'thump it down' Motown sides pre 66. Not necessarily better though.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah Dr C you're right about that, fuck knows why I don't like them then, maybe I just hate skiffle or think fun wasn't invented until disco or something.

― TM-73-X (Groke), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

i fucking love 'The Lebanon' right now

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Bingo-masters Breakout/Psycho Mafia/Repetition
It's the New Thing/Various Times
Rowche Rumble/In My Area
Fiery Jack/2nd Dark Age/Psykick Dancehall 2
How I Wrote `Elastic Man'/City Hobgoblins
Totally Wired/Putta Block
Lie Dream of a Casino Soul/Fantastic Life
Look, Know/I'm Into CB
Marquis Cha-Cha/Room to Live
The Man Whose Head Expanded/Ludd Gang
Kicker Conspiracy/Wings/Container Drivers/New Puritan (double 7")
Oh! Brother/God-Box
c.r.e.e.p/Pat-Trip Dispenser
Couldn't Get Ahead/Rollin' Dany
Cruiser's Creek/L.A.
Living Too Late/Hot Aftershave Bop/Living Too Long
Mr. Pharmacist/Lucifer Over Lancashire
Hey! Luciani/Shoulder Pads #1B
There's a Ghost In My House/Haf Found Bormann
Hit The North Part 1/Hit the North Part 2
Victoria/Tuff Life Boogie

(that's 21!)

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

**I don't think the Pet Shop Boys made a record as good as "Tell Me When" after my list ended though**

Agreed.

Strongo - you're right HL's 13-20 is weaker overall, but there's nothing as good as Tell Me When, Human, Louise, or Life on Your Own in PSB's 13-20.

PSB's 1-9 is almost overwhelmingly great, but what I like about the HL singles is that you get the progression from bedroom bleeps to monster hits to being Jam & Lewis's playthings to waking up one day in 1994 and remembering that they are in fact still the greatest band ever and PROVING IT BEYOND DOUBT AGAIN (Tell Me When). And it's all good.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Bjork's singles list is also very good - 16 greats in a row, but i can't hack 'Pagan Poetry'

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

What I like about runs of great or mostly-great singles is the way they tell the story of a band's development, much much more so than albums usually do I think. The story is usually the same, too - initial great idea -> expansion on great idea -> broadening of range -> disillusionment with initial idea -> overreach and decline.

Dr C - Can You Forgive Her? is better than anything the League ever did except maybe Love Action.

(Heh this is like a really stupidly high level D&D game - yeah well my 93rd level fighter could cream your 87th level cleric etc etc)

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

i was thinking chic (especially if we move out into productions) but i can't find a discography online that lists their singles.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

...except HL haven't declined - Secrets is possibly their best album. I believe that others around here (Strongo?, Cozen?, Ronan?) might agree

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i think overall secrets is their best record, yeah. i don't think it's got a song on it though to challenge those first 12. (and that's WITHOUT "the black hit of space" i see now.)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I had the same problem with the Four Tops Strongo - discographies are rockist I fear.

HL have recovered, but they did decline.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

(unless it's a b-side of something.)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah i think singles discographies not related to obscure shit or hip-hop are a fool's errand.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

This is also grebt : (better than the Beatles)

1.You Still Want Me
2. You Really Got Me
3. All Day and All of The Night
4. Tired Of Waiting For You
5. Everybody's Gonna Be Happy
6. Set Me Free
7. See My Friends
8. Till The End Of The Day
9. Dedicated Follower of Fashion
10. Sunny Afternoon
11. Dead End Street
12. Waterloo Sunset
13. Autumn Almanac
14. Wonderboy
15. Days
16. Plastic Man
17. Drivin'
18. Shangri-La
19. Victoria
20. Lola
21 Apeman
22. God's Children

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Also The Who, The Supremes/D.Ross + The Supremes, Smokey/Miracles, Buzzcocks

If we can include Sister Sledge then Chic/Sister Sledge beats all.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

i love music!!

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

the real question on my mind at the moment is are there any hip-hop people (not counting producers?) who've had 20 great back to back singles

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

the first one that came to mind was jay-z!

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

1.Ceremony
2.Procession
3.Everything's Gone Green
4.Temptation
5.Blue Monday
6.Confusion
7.Thieves Like Us
8.Murder
9.The Perfect Kiss
10. Sub-Culture
11. Shellshock
12. State of The Nation
13. Bizarre Love Triangle
14. True Faith
15. Touched By The Hand of God
16. Fine Time
17. Round and Round
18. Run 2
19. Mr. Disco
20. World in Motion
21. Regret
22. Ruined in A Day
23. World
24. Spooky
25. Brutal
26. Crystal
27. 60 Miles an Hour
28. Someone Like You
29. Here to Stay

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Dan's predictable list of 20:

Killing An Arab
Boys Don't Cry
Jumping Someone Else's Train
A Forest
Primary
Charlotte Sometimes
The Hanging Garden
Let's Go To Bed
The Walk
The Lovecats
The Caterpillar
Inbetween Days
Close To Me
Why Can't I Be You???
Catch
Just Like Heaven
Hot Hot Hot!!!
Fascination Street
Lovesong
Lullabye

And we haven't even gotten to "Pictures Of You", "Never Enough", "High", "The 13th", or "Cut Here"! (Fortunately we do miss "Mint Car" and "Strange Attraction".)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

"in my lifetime"
"dead presidents"
"ain't no nigga"
"can't knock the hustle"
"sunshine"
"hard knock life"
"money cash hoes"
"the city is mine"
"can i get a"
"jigga what, jigga who"
"do it again"
"big pimpin"
"anything"
"hey papi"
"i just wanna luv u"
"izzo"
"girls, girls, girls"
"03 bonnie and clyde"
"hovi baby"
"excuse me miss"

kinda falls apart in the home stretch

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Holiday
Borderline
Lucky Star
Like A Virgin
Material Girl
Crazy For You
Into The Groove
Angel
Gambler
Dress You Up
Live To Tell
Papa Don't Preach
True Blue
Open Your Heart
La Isla Bonita
Who's That Girl
Causing A Commotion
The Look Of Love
Like A Prayer
Express Yourself

That's #s 3-22 of Madonna's UK discography - bloody impressive!

I think New Order only had about a 2/3 hit rate.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

1 Hand In Glove
2 This Charming Man
3 What Difference Does it Make
4 Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
5 William, It Was Really Nothing
6 How Soon Is Now
7 Shakespeares Sister
8 That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore
9 The Boy with the Thorn in his Side
10 Bigmouth Strikes Again
11 Panic
12 Ask
13 Shoplifters of the World
14 Single Sheila Take a Bow
15 Girlfriend in a Coma
16 I Started Something I Couldn't Finish
17 Last Night I Dreamt Somebody Loved Me
18 There is a Light That Never Goes Out

every one a winner!

― pete b. (pete b.), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

"the rain"
"sock it 2 me"
"beep me 911"
"hit em wit da hee"
"she's a bitch"
"all n my grill"
"hot boyz"
"get ur freak on"
"lick shots"
"one minute man"
"take away"
"4 my people"
"work it"
"gossip folks"
"back in the day"

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Missy has 5 to go! I'm breathless with anticipation!

Pete - has to be 20 - any old idiot can make 18 good singles in a row.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

"i can't live without my radio"
"rock the bells"
"i need a beat"
"i'm bad"
"i need love"
"i'm that type of guy"
"going back to cali"
"big ole butt"
"jingling baby"
"mama said knock you out"
"boomin systems"
"around the way girl"

(i THOUGHT ll might do it...it kinda gets depressing after this.)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

**I think New Order only had about a 2/3 hit rate**.

Yes 8/10/11/20/23/24 are below par

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

"public enemy no. 1"
"you're gonna get yours"
"rebel without a pause"
"night of the living baseheads"
"black steel in the hour of chaos"
"bring the noise"
"don't believe the hype"
"welcome to the terrordome"
"can't do nothin for ya man"
"911 is a joke"
"fight the power"
"brothers gonna work it out"
"shut em down"
"can't truss it"
"nighttrain"

wtf is it with the "no more than 15" barrier?! i am beginning to think 20 is quite the achievement!

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 15:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Shop Around / Who's Lovin' You
Ain't It Baby / The Only One I Love
What's So Good About Goodbye / I've Been Good To You
You Really Got A Hold On Me / Happy Landing
Mickey's Monkey / Whatever Makes You Happy
I Gotta Dance To Keep From Crying / Such Is Love Such Is Life
(You Can't Let The Boy Overpower) The Man In You / Heartbreak Road
I Like It Like That / You're So Free And Sweet
That's What Love Is Made Of / Would I Love You
Come On Do The Jerk / Baby Don't You Go
OOO Baby Baby / All That's Good
The Tracks Of My Tears / Fork In The Road
My Girl Has Gone / Since You Won My Heart
Going To A Go Go / Choosey Beggar
Whole Lot Of Shaking In My Heart (Since I Met You Girl) / Oh Be My Love
(Come Round Here) I'm The One You Need / Save Me
The Love I Saw In You Is Just A Mirage / Swept For You Baby
More Love / Swept For You Baby (1) / Come Spy With Me (2)
I Second That Emotion / You Must Be Love
If You Can Want / When The Words From Your Heart Get Caught Up
Yester Love / Much Better Off
Special Occasion / Give Her Up
Baby Baby Don't Cry / Your Mothers Only Daughter
The Tracks Of My Tears / Come On And Do The Jerk
The Tears Of A Clown / You Must Be Love (1) Who's Gonna Take The Blame (2)
(Come Round Here) I'm The One You Need / We Can Make It We Can
I Don't Blame You At All / That Girl

Probably missing a few, but that's 27.

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)

1 Player's Ball
2 Southernplayalistic...
3 Get Up, Get Out
4 Elevators
5 Jazzy Belle
6 ATLiens/Wheelz Of Steel
7 Rosa Parks
8 Da Art Of Storytellin
9 B.O.B.
10 Ms.Jackson
11 So Fresh, So Clean
12 The Whole World
13 Land Of A Million Drums
14 Ghetto Musick/Hey Ya

yes yes ok only 14 but anyway, coming up fast behind missy!

― pete b. (pete b.), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 15:34 (twenty-two years ago)

If you take out the "Tracks of My Tears" reissue that I counted, it still makes 26.

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

But if you're missing a few it's invalidated o.nate - thats what makes it so hard to work out for the old soul acts, it's perishingly hard to find a complete discography.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I might not be missing a few - I don't know. This is from a list purporting to be the complete Motown UK singles.

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh OK! Where is it? It might help for the Four Tops.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i was gonna say Madonna but 'Gambler' is a bit rub

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Wasn't "The Queen Is Dead" a single too? I know it had a video.

Also, "Girlfriend In A Coma" is unforgivable rubbish that almost single-handedly wipes away the goodness of half of their singles.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

complete Motown UK singles:

http://www.boo-ga-loo.demon.co.uk/boogoo56.htm

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

you guys should maybe be aware how tempted i am to suggest U2 from 'Pride' to 'Please'...but i notice many of you are now stroking guns so i'll keep shtum

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha "stroking guns" is an apt description of the turn this thread has taken! </MeanSpiritedLove>

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

''Also, "Girlfriend In A Coma" is unforgivable rubbish that almost single-handedly wipes away the goodness of half of their singles.''

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Why the befuddlement? That song is beyond rancid.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.radioalice.com/morning_show/images/rancid.jpg

OI!

― Thy Lethal Zen Ned (Ned), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

"Girlfriend In A Coma" is leagues worse than anything Rancid could come up with.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Only someone who wuvs Usher could have such a wacktastic opinion on "Girlfriend in a Coma".

― Larcole (Nicole), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

yowza!

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

You know when Alex in NYC starts screaming "RAISE YOUR STANDARDS!" and posting funny pics of Jaz Coleman all over a thread? I now completely understand where he's coming from.

RAISE YOUR STANDARDS!
http://www.laganzua.net/discos/discos4/imagenes/thecure.jpg

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Hush, now, Dan, the unbelievers will yet understand the power of Smith vs. the power of Smiths.

― Thy Lethal Zen Ned (Ned), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

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