Well, Clive Davis will not hear a single, that's for damn sure.
― kenan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 03:14 (eighteen years ago)
I haven't checked to see how well "Honey" is doing.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 03:14 (eighteen years ago)
I'm awful fond of the reading of the Peter Finch "mad as hell" speech from Network.
― kenan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 03:17 (eighteen years ago)
I'm buying two tomorrow! Just kidding, but I am buying one. Erykah is one of those that I actually feel the old fashioned need to support so she stays around.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 03:51 (eighteen years ago)
"They might not make it past the first track of this one if they have the RAMP album.
-- Andy K"
what did they jack from that one for this album?
― pipecock, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:18 (eighteen years ago)
"american promise"
― The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:22 (eighteen years ago)
xpost - "Honey" did pretty good on Urban Adult-Contemporary radio, but outside of that it underperformed.. I don't think this will sell huge numbers but, much like Jill Scott, Erykah has a pretty solid fanbase so I think she'll do around 150K first week and go at least gold.
― The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:23 (eighteen years ago)
plus, they're really promoting this - i've seen a few commercials, they have a starbucks tie-in, etc. it'll do respectably.
― The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:24 (eighteen years ago)
how much of the mizell's did she "plagiarize"? besides johnny hammond smith. and she covered Think Twice, right? did these fake friends never listen to tribe, black moon, main source?
― jaxon, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:37 (eighteen years ago)
I think both "Booty" and "Time's A Wastin," right?
― Eric H., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:45 (eighteen years ago)
Personally, I don't find it altogether problematic, and my imaginary friends and I aren't really on speaking terms anymore.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:46 (eighteen years ago)
can't wait to hear this!
― tricky, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:48 (eighteen years ago)
xpost - i kind of hate sa ra too. never added up to much apart from one or two songs and great interview quotes.
― mr x, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 10:14 (eighteen years ago)
The Cell is so amazing.
― stevie, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 13:20 (eighteen years ago)
See...this record is the bizness. The slurry almost-Theo Parrish production on "Twinkle" is killing me. And Badu is still on another brain plane lyrically. This is great.
― Capitaine Jay Vee, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 13:46 (eighteen years ago)
It sounds like Pino Palladino playing on "The Cell." The bass is what makes the song....
― Patrick South, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 13:50 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah serious album of the decade potential.
― Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 15:06 (eighteen years ago)
MOVE OVER BIG & RICH
i came home a little drunk from a show last night and apparently i itunes'd this.
is that roy hargrove on 'me'?
― Jordan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 15:25 (eighteen years ago)
hell yeah that's roy hargrove
also the bass player all over this thing is my new favorite bass player, with an appropriately awesome name: Stephen "Thunder Cat" Bruner!
― Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 16:12 (eighteen years ago)
is the opening track an old roy ayers track, or a new roy ayers production? it sounds antique, in the best way.
― stevie, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 16:48 (eighteen years ago)
Bruner even plays on "The Cell"? Sounds so much like Pino....
― Patrick South, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 16:51 (eighteen years ago)
"is the opening track an old roy ayers track, or a new roy ayers production?"
its a sample from a roy ayers produced group called RAMP.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:08 (eighteen years ago)
is that one of the sa-ra guys on amerykahn promise pretending to be dr funkenstein?
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:11 (eighteen years ago)
xpost - "Honey" did pretty good on Urban Adult-Contemporary radio, but outside of that it underperformed
It's still climbing, albeit very slowly (#29 now, #30 last week, #32 the week before that), on the R&B/Hip-Hop chart.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:38 (eighteen years ago)
which tracks did sa-ra produce, anyway?
― Jordan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:45 (eighteen years ago)
3 - Shafiq Husayn 6 - Shafiq Husayn, Erykah Badu 7 - Taz Arnold, Shafiq Husayn, Erykah Badu, Mike Chavarria 8 - Shafiq Husayn 9 - Erykah Badu, Om'Mas Keith, Shafiq Husayn
(Husayn, Arnold, Keith = Sa-Ra)
― Andy K, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:48 (eighteen years ago)
"is the opening track an old roy ayers track, or a new roy ayers production?"its a sample from a roy ayers produced group called RAMP.-- titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:08 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
-- titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:08 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Hehe -- yeah, basically some voices over the WHOLE of "The American Promise." The RAMP album (which is so much more than "Daylight," "Everybody Loves the Sunshine") was reissued in the States last year by Verve and is very cheap.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:52 (eighteen years ago)
Apparently I like Sa-Ra alot, since I think the album's B-side is the stronger one.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:53 (eighteen years ago)
But, man, is it all good.
Oh, and Roy Ayers, Edwin Birdsong and William Allen are all credited as producers/writers on track one.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 18:03 (eighteen years ago)
sa-ra just have the worst vocals ever on their own material. which is why it sucks so bad a lot of the time. they should stick to producing for other people, like erykah or bilal or whoever and STFU or just make instrumentals. then again i find a lot of their own stuff derivative or just too 'soft' anyway.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 18:03 (eighteen years ago)
im sure roy doesnt mind - he was on mamas gun anyway.
the sa-ra hate is retarded. vocals are so rad. unfortunately the album the eventually released sucked. singles and weird shit that was passed around on cdr for years before album is mindblowing.
― jaxon, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 20:23 (eighteen years ago)
Telephone is a eulogy to dillah. especially apparent w/the sirens he used all over donuts. also love the fact that she redid one of my favorite songs - eddie kendricks "my people" also used on donuts.
― jaxon, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 20:25 (eighteen years ago)
Cover reminds me of The O'Jays' SURVIVAL.
― Terrible Cold, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 22:32 (eighteen years ago)
I would really like to hear Erykah Badu cover Siouxsie & the Banshees, particularly Tinderbox-era songs.
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 22:35 (eighteen years ago)
have to agree w jaxon on sa ra. i obtained said cd-r of sa-ra instrumentals/bsides in 2002, and they were fucking brilliant pieces of synthy/damaged soul hip-hop. at the time everyone was jocking; kanye, common, all wanted a piece of sa-ra production.since then, they've done alot of work, but somehow kind of fizzled in many peoples eyes. some of the remix work is great, some of it's not so great. that album they released later on ubiquity is aight but nothing near the expectations people had after all those tracks that were passed around. the work they did on this badu record i have to say though is pretty amazing.
― oscar, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 22:42 (eighteen years ago)
I rather like Dan's idea.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 22:47 (eighteen years ago)
I love Karriem Riggins (even though his track here isn't one of the flashier ones).
― Jordan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 22:58 (eighteen years ago)
sick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Lf1wMylIE
― Jordan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 23:21 (eighteen years ago)
couple tracks in so far, feeling it.
― pipecock, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 00:28 (eighteen years ago)
OTM, that kendricks track is mind-blowing. would love to hear the whole LP it came from. telephone kills me, i loved common's dilla tribute on finding forever too. thanks titchy and andy for RAMP info.
― stevie, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 11:41 (eighteen years ago)
jaw drops around 1:30 (xpost)
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 13:09 (eighteen years ago)
Look for Michael Jackson’s little sister Janet to enter next week’s chart at #1, with her new IDJ album Discipline headed for 180k in sales, give or take. Universal Motown’s neo-soul stalwart Erykah Badu is a lock for #2 (hey, that rhymes) with between 125-135k.
― The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:16 (eighteen years ago)
kinda low :-/
― deej, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:18 (eighteen years ago)
actually that's pretty good! considering "honey"wasn't that big... I expected about 150K and it can still probably do that.
Janet, however... those numbers are sad.
― The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:20 (eighteen years ago)
x-post -- Yeah, but given the business climate and all, not surprising.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:20 (eighteen years ago)
stevie, that Kendricks album is unfortunately nothing like the title track. the rest is nice sweet soul. i remember one other good track on it.
― jaxon, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:20 (eighteen years ago)
OTM, that kendricks track is mind-blowing. would love to hear the whole LP it came from.
The album of which you speak, People...Hold On, does blow much, much mind from beginning to end. Now I gotta put on "Eddie's Love."
― Terrible Cold, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:22 (eighteen years ago)