Geir Hongro - Classic or Dud?

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I would like to welcome Geir to the world of ILX, and apologise for all the people who are being mean to our new friend.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 23:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I would like to welcome Geir to the world of ILX, and apologise for all the people who are being mean to our new friend.

That's OK. As stated earlier (in this thread, which started half a year prior to my joining ILX :-) ) I have already put my friend Bin Laden on the case. :-)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 23:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Homegro = the new connor?

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 6 March 2003 01:24 (twenty-three years ago)

what is the big deal with Sirrah Hongro anyway? is he some kind of internet personality or something?

why is his having opinions about music and being prepared to argue them in a polite and friendly fashion seen by some as a mark of mentalism?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 6 March 2003 17:42 (twenty-three years ago)

You have never tried arguing with him, I see.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 March 2003 17:51 (twenty-three years ago)

I never argue with people.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 6 March 2003 18:26 (twenty-three years ago)

His opinions about music is exactly what makes ppl accuse him of mentalism, DV, as they are stunningly unorthodox. Then again, anyone with standard ILM anti-rockist views would be seen as a bit of a mentalist in many circles, too.

I, too, think that the Geir-mocking happening around here is getting mighty tiresome, much as he might seem to invite it; it's also quickly gone from good-natured "You Are Fucking Insane" style mockery to rather tasteless personal insults, which is doubly unfortunate.

I've never tried arguing with Geir either, because *obviously* that's hopeless- he's set up this extremley strict system that seems to work for him and he won't budge on it no matter what you say, so why bother? (this last paragraph could basically be summed up as "Tom was OTM"

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 7 March 2003 00:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Then again, anyone with standard ILM anti-rockist views would be seen as a bit of a mentalist in many circles, too.

Hey, I am not a rockist, I am a popist! :-)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 7 March 2003 00:15 (twenty-three years ago)

that part of the post had nothing to do with any sort of rockisms/popisms on *your* part, it was just about how ILM attitude in general would fit in with other types of listening groups.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 7 March 2003 00:57 (twenty-three years ago)

he's set up this extremley strict system that seems to work for him and he won't budge on it no matter what you say, so why bother

This is true, and it's cool. What is even cooler is that the guy's methodology indicates that the Supernaturals and Dodgy are the greatest artists of the 20th century. The whole of ILM is trumped in wilful contrariness, and therefore made redundant.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 7 March 2003 01:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Blount: good argument about Merritt.

― the pinefox, Friday, 7 March 2003 13:16 (twenty-three years ago)

What about Gondola Bob?

Gondola Bob is still posting in rec.music.progressive.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 7 March 2003 13:51 (twenty-three years ago)

[Geir Hongro is] honor Grieg

Decent anagram.

Tom was OTM

Poor anagram.

;)

― OleM, Friday, 7 March 2003 16:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh I don't know I rather like it.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 7 March 2003 16:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Its been said before but Geir Hongro would make a pretty fine band name.

― tigerclawskank, Friday, 7 March 2003 17:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Well its taken him four days to climb half way up the monthly statscock.
Inconceivable!

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Sunday, 9 March 2003 04:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, I don't know if this is a boast or something to be ashamed of, but for awhile, I was Active User #21 while he was stranded at Active User #22.
The odd thing is until Gier Showed up, I either languished at the bottom of the chart (or around #45) or didn't even make it on the chart at all.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 9 March 2003 06:40 (twenty-three years ago)

so what you're saying is that geir made you post more?!

final proof that geir is more dud than evah ;-)

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 9 March 2003 12:12 (twenty-three years ago)

so what you're saying is that geir made you post more?!
Actually, having the flu and being snowed in meant more ILM-time, but posting fruitless rebuttals to the Hangnail the Hongrorible's mad rattlings accounts for and extra 10% of that.
...final proof that geir is more dud than evah ;-)
b-b-but does that mean you don't like when I post?! *WAAAAAAAH* I'm now filled with angst and must listen to a Sebadoh record and weep along with Lou Barlow!

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:26 (twenty-three years ago)

New Thread

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh I don't know I rather like it.

I didn't mean it isn't usually apt, mind.

― OleM (OleM), Sunday, 9 March 2003 20:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Rock history is filled with overrated artists
(Elvis Presley, Little Richard, Animals, Stones, Who, Led
Zeppelin, Doors, Velvet Underground, James Brown, Sly Stone, any
rap, any early house

I am first and foremost defending the European classical musical traditions, and those popular musicians that help keep them alive, and those were not simp

I might be a little late to this fair, but Mr Hongro Such a theoretical mindset might be good for you and those of your ilk. But more civilized music fans who have a broader more advanced concept of musical theory as well as an appreciation for the broad range of feeling and intellect that comprise the constructs to make great music, who dont posess an ear of tin and dont throw catch phrases such as "defending the European classical musical traditions," out of some desperate, dimwittedly nationalist and childishly freudian need to assert a cultural superiority that only exists in the blackened, grimy, cobweb laden windmills of your mind....well let's just say that we prefer more cultivated modes of thought than the primitive analysis you seem to prefer.

― robert lashley (brotherman), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 21:58 (twenty-three years ago)

"why does everyone care so much about what Geir thinks?" (posted on another thread)

i like music which isn't necessarily melodic (as well as melodic music), so i'm always interested to see what overlap i have with someone who likes ONLY melodic music. hard to know where geir the man ends and his internet persona begins, but he's cool all the same.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:16 (twenty-three years ago)

But the whole "melodic" thing is patent nonsense. He's an idiot; it's like reaffirming your tastes by talking to someone in a coma.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:41 (twenty-three years ago)

will a simple "he's funny" suffice then?

i suppose what i meant was: i like to see which of my loves and hates he enjoys, and how he ties his own love and hate to his "MELODY+Harmony=good, anything else=bad" outlook, however nonsensical or inconsistent that outlook can appear at times.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 23:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, I totally disagree with Geir's "aesthetic" but I like some of those records he likes..."Notorious Byrd Brothers," who wouldn't like that? Genesis, well, I frankly don't understand how anyone over the age of 19 would want to listen to that, it seems so obviously pseudo to me. But that's just me, my older brother has friends who are 48 years old and are still groovin' to "Yes Album" and Emerson, Lake and Palmer, that's what they're comfortable with, more power to them.

He's classic.

― Jess Hill (jesshill), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 23:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I think it's pretty funny how he is willing to accept music without melody if its production and stereo effects is fancy enough (e.g. Prodigy, Orbital), but still wants everyone else to listen to melodic music only.

― man, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 23:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I wouldn't call "In Sides" unmelodic. Melodically different, yes, and highly harmonically dissonant, but I do hear melodies there.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 23:47 (twenty-three years ago)

How long does this Geir person usually stay on newsgroups/boards for? Does he leave after a few weeks or does he stick around interminably?

― Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 23:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Until everyone goes somewhere else without him noticing:)

― man, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 23:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Using The Prodigy and Orbital as examples of unmelodic music strikes me as being deeply odd.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 23:59 (twenty-three years ago)

every second thread on ILM seems now to be either by Mr Hongro, or to mention him in the title.

for this alone, classic.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 13 March 2003 00:24 (twenty-three years ago)

FORUM MODERATOR: delete ILM and all backups. format the drive and blow up the server. Please.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 13 March 2003 00:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Why not just log off for a little while?:)

― man, Thursday, 13 March 2003 00:30 (twenty-three years ago)

If Geir just likes melody and harmony, why isn't is favorite music Gregorian chant. How come he can stand any sort of syncopated music. Isn't it too rhythmically complex?

― Amarga (Amarga), Thursday, 13 March 2003 04:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I agree with Geir, You cannot have too much Ms Melody

― girl scout heroin, Thursday, 13 March 2003 04:44 (twenty-three years ago)

If Geir just likes melody and harmony, why isn't is favorite music Gregorian chant.

For your information: Gregorian chant usually had no harmony, only melody.

How come he can stand any sort of syncopated music.

I have never said I dislike rhythm, just that melody and harmony should always be there and should always be in tne forefront as the most important elements in the music.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 13 March 2003 11:01 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm with Amateurist: "But the whole "melodic" thing is patent nonsense. He's an idiot; it's like reaffirming your tastes by talking to someone in a coma."

The guy comes across like the Blob.

― Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Thursday, 13 March 2003 12:04 (twenty-three years ago)

''every second thread on ILM seems now to be either by Mr Hongro, or to mention him in the title.''

its funny bcz he is so fucking dull as well.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 13 March 2003 12:31 (twenty-three years ago)

if its not healthy to make unconstructive, irrelevant retorts to Geir's irritatingly assumptive (and i feel, equally unconstructive and irrelevant) comments, then shouldnt Geir be discouraged from making such comments in the first place?

i suppose its really no worse than the way other posters act so authoriative about things as if to suggest they are right and everyone else is wrong...and i'm as guilty of that as anyone else i guess - only i try to avoid it by stressing 'i felt that' or 'in my opinion' because just saying 'x is better than y' and not even offering real explanations why (saying cos x has melody and y doesnt thus better is not a satisfactory explanation) is boring, unconstructive and is dragging ILM somewhat i feel.

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 March 2003 19:38 (twenty-three years ago)

But I AM RIGHT and everyone else is wrong.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 13 March 2003 20:03 (twenty-three years ago)

we all think that sometimes, and thats why the world is the way it is

all together now "loooooove makes the world go rooooooooooound..."

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 March 2003 20:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Bah. Love is for the WEAK. I declare Fatwa on the Infidel, stevem!

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 13 March 2003 20:24 (twenty-three years ago)

"crazy...hey, but that's how it goes..."

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 March 2003 20:39 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...

raci..."eurocentrist" dud. I'm gonna stop talking about good Good Charlotte, Limp Bizkit are or how bad "Reveal" is, lest I come off like this monotonous prick.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:05 (twenty-three years ago)

If you guys will just stop talking about how bad Oasis, Coldplay and Travis are, then chances are you won't get me started either.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:09 (twenty-three years ago)

cryptofacist threadhijacking egomaniac

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Geir can eat a...oh, hey there! Didn't see you there, Geir. Still, dud-ola.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:10 (twenty-three years ago)

uh, where was anyone talking about Travis or Oasis or Coldplay on the Class Pt 2 thread?

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:11 (twenty-three years ago)

That thread was about how everybody who is into music like Travis and Coldplay (that is, song oriented indie music played by white males) is supposedly rascist just because they don't like disco and other genres that are similar to disco.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:12 (twenty-three years ago)

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