Doom & Gloom From The Tomb: A Blog

Hm. Not all that stuff might be Reed-related. Can anyone cast any light on the accuracy of this Allmusic entry for the Pickwick album from which a lot of this was taken?
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:jnfoxqu0ld6e

what a weird review. the album cover is definitely wrong, and what's up with that tracklisting? Anyway, I think there is a bit of confusion as to what Pickwick stuff Reed actually had a hand in (other than the stuff where he's obviously present). A lot of the songs have like four or five writers ...

Jonathan Richman is in need of a career-spanning box set or something ...

yes but too many parties involved, small labels who haven't even bothered to keep his albums in print mixed with big labels (warner etc.) that aren't likely to cooperate on such a thing.

tyler what is your interest in a boatload of GNR rarities/demos/unreleased/guest appearances/etc?

hmm, i don't know, i don't have any GnR rarities ... are they good? I'm looking to friends to put together more comp type things for the blog ... you want to give me the cream of the crop?

A definitive Richman box would be so tough to pull off not just for the logistical reasons - but also because he's just so prolific. Even just for the first album-era songs there are at least 3-4 completely different studio versions floating around + live stuff. It is pretty cool to be able to see all the fine-tuning and revising he does to his songs, especially as keeping things direct, unmediated and spontaneous-sounding seems to be his goal.

I wonder if making and remaking and remaking that one record may have been part of what turned him away from the initial Modern Lovers sound. But then again I think that recording multiple versions of his songs might just be his M.O., as the "Lost Album" on Doom & Gllom shows - or even his revisting of "Old World" on his last record.

tyler i will go through it...my friend bought it at this mom and pop record story in south dakota, it's called "Attitude For Destruction" and its one of those old early 90s type bootleg double CDS that were made to look like legit releases

haha actually i'm looking now and it's on Deadline "A Division of Cleopatra Records" so who knows what it's like

there appears to be a fair amount of Hollywood Rose stuff (axl's pre-GNR band)....

also some apparent "gems" like "Kevin Dubrow, Tracii Guns & Gilby Clarke - Welcome to the Jungle"

if Kevin Dubrow is involved, I'm there!

and re: a Richman box, I think it could be done, aside from label issues
one disc of original modern lovers stuff
one disc of late 70s/early 80s
one disc covering the rest of the career
one disc of live material?
i mean, you'd have to leave plenty out, but as far as an overview, i think it'd work ...

But you'd never please everybody - you got yer Hippy Ernie and the Hippie Johnny factions, yer I'm A Little Airplane guys and yer I'm A Little Dinosaur people. Could get ugly.

and then there's that one dude who thinks Te Vas a Emocionar! is his best album

A pal'o'mine made me a fine 4 disc JR box about 10 years ago:

Disc 1:
She Cracked / Roadrunner / Pablo Picasso / I'm Straight / Dignified And Old / Girl Friend (from "The Modern Lovers")
The New Teller / Government Center / Roadrunner (new version) (from "Beserkley Chartbusters")
Back In The USA / Hey There Little Insect (from "Jonathan Richman & The Modern Lovers")
Ice Cream Man / Roller Coaster By The Sea / Dodge Veg-O-Matic / Egyptian Reggae (from "Rock'n'roll with The Modern Lovers)
I'm A Little Airplane / I'm A Little Dinosaur / The Morning Of Our Lives (from "Modern Lovers Live")
(She's Gonna) Respect Me / Back In Your Life / Lydia (from "Back In Your Life")

Disc 2:
Give Paris One More Chance / The Neighbors / When I'm Walking / The Tag Game (from "Jonathan Sings!")
The Beach / My Jeans / Down In Bermuda / Vincent Van Gogh / Walter Johnson / Chewing Gum Wrapper (from "Rockin' And Romance")
It's You / Let's Take A Trip / This Love Of Mine / Double Chocolate Malted / Just About Seventeen / Corner Store / When I Dance (from "It's Time For")
Dancin Late At Night / When Harpo Played His Harp / Gail Loves Me / I Love Hot Nights / I Have Come Out To Play (from "Modern Lovers 88")

Disc 3:
Action Packed / Everyday Clothes / Fender Stratocaster / Closer / I Eat With Gusto, Damn! You Bet / Miracles Will Start To Happen / Sleepwalk / Cerca (from "Jonathan Richman")
Since She Started To Ride / Reno / You're Crazy For Taking The Bus (from "Jonathan Goes Country")
The Girl Stands Up To Me Now / Capuccino Bar / My Career As A Homewrecker / She Doesn't Laugh At My Jokes / When She Kisses Me / At Night / When I Say Wife / Monologue About Bermuda / Our Swingin' Pad / Just For Fun (from "Having A Party With")

Disc 4:
Parties In The USA / You Can't Talk To The Dude / I Was Dancing In A Lesbian Bar / That Summer Feeling / A Higher Power (from "I, Jonathan")
I Love Hot Nights (live) (from "No Alternative" compilation)
Papel De Chicle / Compadrito Corazón / Melodía Tradicional Ecuadoriana / Una Fuerza Allá (from "¡Jonathan, Te Vas A Emocionar!")
To Hide A Little Thought / The Heart Of Saturday Night / Vampire Girl / Just Because I'm Irish / That's How I Feel / Nothing Can Change This Love / Nishi (from "You Must Ask The Heart")
Not Just A 'Plus One' On The Guest List Anymore / Rock 'N' Roll Drummer Straight From The Hospy-tel (from "Surrender To Jonathan")
When I Dance (new version) / Nineteen In Naples / The Lonely Little Thrift Store / True Love Is Not Nice / Love Me Like I Love / If She Don't Love Me (from "I'm So Confused")

that looks awesome. want it!

Aw, twist my arm:
http://www.divshare.com/download/10518250-951
http://www.divshare.com/download/10518316-c35

yr a god!

btw gerald the last post on doom & gloom was a Robyn Hitchcock comp of odds n sods (mainly TV appearances) my friend put together. nothing terribly rare, but nice nonetheless!

http://lagrimapsicodelica.blogspot.com/2010/01/jonathan-richman-and-modern-lovers.html

eeyowch ... (actually pretty amazing how many of those I own).
has anyone tracked this down? http://jojofiles.blogspot.com/2007/10/great-71-recordings-found.html
I don't do dime a dozen but I guess it was uploaded there ...

yeah, i grabbed that.

is it good? can you hook me up?
just put up a nice guided by voices radio session comp btw.
http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/

been listening to that GoB's set you posted awhile back recently. s'nice!!!

Tyler - apparently GBV's "Bug House" is a sampler of a larger set called "Broadcaster House". Do you have a lead on that? I'd love to hear it all.

i don't have the whole thing. this is where I got it from way back when I think: http://www.gbvdb.com/bughouse.asp
but yeah, this single disc makes me want the whole thing ...

that whole gbv database is crazy by the way.
i get to re-live my first GBV live experience: http://www.gbvdb.com/album.asp?albumid=1133

Oh yeah, I've long loved that site. An absolutely essential bookmark for Pollard fans.

in honor of Doom & Gloom's one year anniversary -- a Neil Young covers comp! actually inspired by the ILM thread ... some fun stuff.

is it good? can you hook me up?
just put up a nice guided by voices radio session comp btw.
http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/

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i can burn you a dvd-r with some rare richman stuff (would take too long to upload)--give me your email address and i'll contact you?

Tyler - is there any more details about the Robyn Hitchcock TV appearances comp your friend put together, i.e. source information for each track?

Amateurist, that'd be awesome -- try tywilc AT gmail dot com
Gerald let me ask him -- I just have the tracklist:

Raymond Chandler Evening 2:02 Robyn Hitchcock
Brenda's Iron Sledge (Old Grey Whistle Test) 3:04 Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians
The West Coast of America 0:47 Robyn Hitchcock
The Man With the Light Bulb Head / Strawberry Mind (The Patio) 4:05 Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians
Kingdom Of Love (The Patio) 4:24 Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians Heaven (Old Grey Whistle Test) 3:41 Robyn Hitchcock & The Egyptians
The Calvary Cross (Live 1989) 4:13 Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians Madonna of the Wasps (David Letterman) 3:42 Robyn Hitchcock and the World's Most Dangerous Band
You're Watching "120 Minutes" 1:05 Robyn Hitchcock
The Ghost In You (Tower Records) 3:15 Robyn Hitchcock
On the Streets of New York (Eye Promo) 2:45 Robyn Hitchcock Watch Your Intelligence: Robyn Hitchcock on YouTube
So You Think You're In Love (Acoustic) 2:48 Robert Hitchcock and the Egyptians Birds in Perspex (Acoustic) 4:09 Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians Ultra Unbelievable Love (Dennis Miller Show) 3:49 Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians
Arms of Love/Wild Mountain Thyme (Mountain Stage) 8:38 Robyn Hitchcock, Peter Buck and Deni Bonet
I Feel Beautiful (Jon Brion Show) 4:21 Robyn Hitchcock and Jon Brion Winchester (Criminal Records) 4:37 Robyn Hitchcock
Not Dark Yet (Dylan Tribute) 5:52 Robyn Hitchcock & John Paul Jones

The Neil covers are awesome. I just made a comp of dylan covers/ripoffs kinda in the same vein as your neil one - lots of soul/r&b, garage rock and french pop versions.

yeah it was fun to hear all the interpretations! would love to hear the dylan comp ... you wanna be a doom&gloom contributor?

would be honoured! let me send you a cd-r and you can decide if you think it's worth it

following up the neil young covers ... we've got a comp of Dylan live in 2002 covering Zevon, the Stones, the Beatles, Van Morrison, and ... Don Henley.

tyler, have you checked out the ice clothes blog? some great homemade comps there.

yeah, i just discovered that blog! the VU in the Cale Era thing looks pretty amazing.

yeah, don't sleep on the bacharach/david/warwick thing too.

heyo, Brio's excellent Bob Dylan covers/pastiches comp is up now!

heyyy, it's been awhile, but I've got a great Robyn Hitchcock solo show from the mid-90s up now. lotsa stuff planned, when I get the time.

also, if you haven't checked out Brio's Dis Nous Dylan mix, do it! I think it's what I've been listening to the most in the past month or so. http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/445730279/dis-nous-dylan-for-this-lovely-saturday-morning

Glad you like it - very cool to have it up on Doom & Gloom.

hey tyler I knew the real McCabe, here in Eugene! he just died a few months back. I thought about starting an RIP thread but didn't. a co-worker of mine was kind of responsible for his living space, he's married to the guy's granddaughter.

huh, no kidding! i seriously loved that place as a kid. I wished I could live there. Seems like they still are bringing in pretty cool acts: http://www.mccabes.com/condata.html
Kinky Friedman, Mia Doi Todd, Gary Lucas ...

i'm hoping my friends from back then digitize some of the other shows. we have some more hitchcock, jonathan richman, frank black ... I think Martin Carthy ...

I have a Liz Phair show somewhere on cassette... also Fahey from the 70's.

nice! would love to hear that Fahey show ... i've got a weird 80s McCabe's show with Steve Wynn, Natalie Merchant, Michael Stipe and various other college rockers. Actually not all that good, but interesting.

i've got some 70s fahey too. one where he plays a very long version of "fare forward voyagers."

hey tyler, you gonna share those modern lovers boots i sent you? do it--they should be heard. will need to transcode them to mp3 i suppose.

Yes! Those Modern Lovers boots (along with some other stuff you sent me) are in the queue. They're great -- especially that Stonehenge one ...

Dis-Nous Dylan is awesome! A nice slice of how far his influence spread in pop at the time. Love that Beau Brummels track. And I think the Faces cut is my favourite Rod Stewart moment ever (which admittedly ain't saying much). Also some super-funky cuts... well done, Brio.

nice! would love to hear that Fahey show ... i've got a weird 80s McCabe's show with Steve Wynn, Natalie Merchant, Michael Stipe and various other college rockers. Actually not all that good, but interesting.

is that the one with Leaving On A Jet Plane? Haven't heard that in years, although I have fond memories of it. Do some of the REM reissue bonus tracks come from that show?

yeah, i think it's got Leaving On A Jet Plane on it. Haven't listened in ages ... don't know if any of them were officially released? Maybe?