ricardo villalobos

"i want you to get together" is that (st germain) "rose rouge" remix I can't find.

theres a track which uses the same samples as enfants floating around which people are mislabling as villalobos feat vander - enfants.

its not very good.

i take it you want a vinyl copy of that rose rough remix blunt? i can't find one! there are mp3s tho...

yeah vinyl. thanks but I just lost 100Gb of patiently accumulated mp3 files & am in no hurry to start over. w/appropriate backup this time

(the best backup is dumping entire directories on music loving friends' drives, btw)

http://www.zshare.net/audio/7344737cb5bf81/

see how it keeps coming to you? mp3 is more resilient than cockroaches! thanks though

:-)

man I wish pepe bradock still did shit like this.

OTM!

anyone else going to see him in montreal? i am so excited that i am trying to temper it with a, "he's not gonna show, there's no way he's gonna show."

So, I have Fizheuer Zieheuer and Fabric 36 and love them both to bits. Where do I go from here?

With more than 1300 posts this thread is just too massive for such late night reading to find the answers.

alcachofa

the acapella remix of easy lee

Thé Au Harem D'Archimede

Hireklon

I would like to post Hireklon

I would like to tap on a radiator full of cockroaches and release it as a Herbert meets Villalobos bootleg

i would buy that if you could get it in 320kbps + FLAC

i would check Achso. it's better than Au Harem and more concise that Alcachofa.

also, it's nothing like FZ or Fabric 36 but one of his best records is 808 The Bassqueen.

like 500 posts up there are about Achso, check it

Are there any UK distros that are particularly good for getting hold of this stuff, or am I far too late for most of it anyway?

nice one willem

krakow: juno is best. with the exception of a few early singles, all of villalobos' material has had numerous represses, so locating it should be a problem. (the sei es drum stuff seems like it might be more limited in nature)

*SHOULDN'T be a problem

what did people think of his sun electric remix? it's very new age sounding, and would fit with alot of the trippy balearic style house of late (if pitched down). reminds me of eYe's black dice remix a little. it's beautiful!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/q7cmcb

speaks for itself really.

So all these comparisons to FZ are pretty right on?

And, is this a new form of plunderphonics?

does anyone have the enfants thing? or even better is it out to buy soon? I know it and have heard it a few times but don't own it unfortunately.

there's even less going on than fz. it's just a loop of the first 60 seconds or so of the track. at least he credits it this time.

it's on juno now ronan. no digital for sei es drum ever, i'd imagine.

oh yeah...of course. that's so irritating.

it is the minimal "so much love to give", lol

yes with £8 plus postage 12"s

i don't think i'll be buying the vinyl. i don't think i'd have any use for it; villalobos beat tools get branded so early on by him and luciano i'd be a little embarrassed to play it out, as if i wouldn't do it justice or something. also i would like to reiterate - the sun electric remix really is astonishing.

it's not really a beat tool at all. it is a total fucking party tune! I mean like, everywhere I've seen it played (at a house party, in a huge club with 1500 people, at a birthday party) people have gone completely crazy, very different crowds too.

haha you're right, i guess "beat tool" is what apologists say to people who criticise fizheur zieheur for being just a loop

ronan: yeah they go crazy but it IS a dj tool. like rio says, the problem comes for someone who isn't villalobos playing it. if you listen to the original, maybe my point will be clearer... but it's a very simple, very effective idea (like fz) to blow unsuspecting minds in his own sets. the musical technique required to make this track is minimal.

which again, isn't a critcism of it -- it just means find yr own loop.

resolved it sounds like you're saying any tune that becomes associated with a certain dj should be off-limits for everyone else. if you want total originality in your sets then maybe djing isn't what you should be doing?? for me it's precisely songs that have these strong identifications that can be the most fun -- you import all the feelings and associations from elsewhere.

no, i'm not saying that at all. i'm saying this barely qualifies as a tune.

like, for instance, i saw reboot the other week. he was playing every single acapella and track luciano uses. he used the brothers vibe - the dance acapella on about 5 separate occasions. sorry, but i happen to think that's pretty lame. the rest of the crowd had no idea what he was doing (as they were not complete nerds like me), so it worked. for me, this is the equivalent of a signature acapella, so it's a separate issue...

there's a big difference between using someone else's idea that's strongly associated with their sets (an acapella, or here, a 40 second filtered loop) and playing a track that other people have played a lot...

the rest of the crowd had no idea what he was doing (as they were not complete nerds like me)

hehe. were you staring at him, angrily while surveying they crowd, trying to gather support for some sort of hang the dj type situation?

re: enfants. i kinda like this anthem/not anthem style of track villalobos has been releasing lately, it encourages djs to be a bit more creative with their mixing. much more interesting than if he'd released it as a straight up 5-10 minute minimal track.

maybe for the cognoscenti but i think 95% of the crowd is just going to think "that sounds awesome"?

i can understand being a little peeved at hearing someone replicate an actual mix sequence, but marking off an entire piece of vinyl as being too associated with a particular dj just doesn't make sense to me.

and personally i have 0 interest in whether something qualifies as a "tune" or not, or whatever.

staring at him, angrily

nah, i'm not THAT bad. i just let myself enjoy it as a kind of 'luciano tribute band' thing and had to surpress laughter every so often when he blatantly ripped off mix sequences.

i think you're missing my point about the villalobos. it's a great idea and it's HIS idea. but with the right inspiration, anyone could do it. so do it yourself. it shouldn't be a piece of vinyl, in my opinion.

thinking about it, it's an act of generosity to DJs he's released it. there's no doubt that as a tool it has the capacity to blow minds. i suppose personally, i'd have been more selfish. and as rio says upthread, i would feel embarrassed playing this in a club.

ha. i've had that "i've def heard this mix before" kinda de ja vu before.

i agree with you up until you're argument that it shouldn't be a piece of vinyl. i find tracks like this fun to play with. plus its such a wonderful loop. i dont really dj this sort of stuff, or in clubs, more private/friends only kind of parties.

yeh, hehe, opening a set, or hitting a climax in a set with this track would be pretty risky imo.

I really like enfants! Beat tool or not, I still think it has more colour and vigour than the average Villalobos track, and if I heard it in the middle of a set I think I'd probably be thoroughly invigorated by it.

"enfants" is OK, not as good as theo parrish's "friendly children"