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since it's been so long ... more Feelies! A live version of Crazy Rhythms w/ the original band pieced together from various 1979-80 shows ....

tylerw, Monday, 8 February 2010 15:27 (sixteen years ago)

tyler, is it cool if I ask you to re-up (or just to send me privately) these Feelies boots you're posting? I don't have the time + disk space right now for them, but I will in 9 months or so.

Euler, Monday, 8 February 2010 15:34 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, just let me know when you want 'em! is that what you meant?

tylerw, Monday, 8 February 2010 15:37 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, that's all I mean. O/w I'd hoard them now but time+space are at a premium for the time being.

Euler, Monday, 8 February 2010 15:37 (sixteen years ago)

there is nothing more important for your hard drive space than hissy audience tapes of the feelies imo

tylerw, Monday, 8 February 2010 15:38 (sixteen years ago)

haha well I already have a few from your blog from before! the Eno demos set and a live set from 79. I don't really know the band after the first album but I'll remedy that soon. And then it'll be boot time.

Euler, Monday, 8 February 2010 15:41 (sixteen years ago)

and good grief my brother tried to give me like 30 gigs of Dead bootlegs recently. I'll never have the time...

Euler, Monday, 8 February 2010 15:42 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks for more Feelies! I probably have several of the performances, but a good comp is always nice.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:10 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, several of the songs are from that 1979 show I posted a few months back -- the others are from 1980 shows at CBGB and the Whiskey A Go Go in LA ...

tylerw, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:16 (sixteen years ago)

backing up a bit - thanks for the pre-vu thing! some pimple-faced dreck for sure, but also some gold... "why don't you smile now" is especially great. I've known the Delmonas cover for years, never knew it was a Reed song.

Brio, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:33 (sixteen years ago)

and can't wait to get home and hear the richman stuff - thanks a million!

Brio, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:36 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, "why don't you smile now" is a great tune - i've hoped that someday a VU version of that song will surface. Probably not, but who knows! The Pickwick saga is pretty interesting -- according to the Unterberger book, there are demos of "Heroin" and some Cale stuff in the vaults.

tylerw, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:38 (sixteen years ago)

Downliners Sect did a great version too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uyepraHu6U

Brio, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:45 (sixteen years ago)

Spiritualized do a decent cover of it, too.

Trip Maker, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

Love Pre-VU. "Why Don't You Smile" is a stone classic - who knew it was written by Reed? That alone must have funded some serious binges. I've just added "Tiger in My Tank" to the non-Beach Boys Beach Boys songs thread. And is "It's Hard For a Girl in a World Full of Men" a pisstake on Peggy Seeger's engineer song? Who knew it had been popular enough to require one?

In all the overviews of this material people hold up "The Ostrich" as an example of Reed's hackwork - "Oh, he was writing this Dance Craze stuff" - but it's a truly freaky track, with hints of the drone/noise side of the VU. Very cutting-edge in comparison to Paul Simon's (truly dreadful) hackwork of roughly the same era.

Wicked comp, Tyler. Thanks again.

Hardcore Homecare (staggerlee), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:18 (sixteen years ago)

on a blog called perhaps "ice clothes" there are like 300 CDs of the same type of material as the pre-vu stuff. it's insane.

and yeah some of that early lou reed stuff is interesting. no way was he a credible brill building-type songwriter though.

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:21 (sixteen years ago)

it's a truly freaky track, with hints of the drone/noise side of the VU
Yeah, I think so too -- like the Sonics but even more unhinged, and that bizarre ostrich guitar sound. and Reed's vocal definitely predicts "White Light/White Heat" ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 19:12 (sixteen years ago)

modern lovers stuff is great. never liked that "fly into the mystery song" much before - the early version is nice.

Brio, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 19:31 (sixteen years ago)

whole comp is pretty stellar imo ... made me think that Jonathan Richman is in need of a career-spanning box set or something ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:28 (sixteen years ago)

Hm. Not all that stuff might be Reed-related. Can anyone cast any light on the accuracy of this Allmusic entry for the Pickwick album from which a lot of this was taken?
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:jnfoxqu0ld6e

Hardcore Homecare (staggerlee), Friday, 12 February 2010 02:45 (sixteen years ago)

what a weird review. the album cover is definitely wrong, and what's up with that tracklisting? Anyway, I think there is a bit of confusion as to what Pickwick stuff Reed actually had a hand in (other than the stuff where he's obviously present). A lot of the songs have like four or five writers ...

tylerw, Friday, 12 February 2010 02:52 (sixteen years ago)

Jonathan Richman is in need of a career-spanning box set or something ...

yes but too many parties involved, small labels who haven't even bothered to keep his albums in print mixed with big labels (warner etc.) that aren't likely to cooperate on such a thing.

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 12 February 2010 03:28 (sixteen years ago)

tyler what is your interest in a boatload of GNR rarities/demos/unreleased/guest appearances/etc?

El GarBage (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 22:23 (sixteen years ago)

hmm, i don't know, i don't have any GnR rarities ... are they good? I'm looking to friends to put together more comp type things for the blog ... you want to give me the cream of the crop?

tylerw, Thursday, 18 February 2010 02:00 (sixteen years ago)

A definitive Richman box would be so tough to pull off not just for the logistical reasons - but also because he's just so prolific. Even just for the first album-era songs there are at least 3-4 completely different studio versions floating around + live stuff. It is pretty cool to be able to see all the fine-tuning and revising he does to his songs, especially as keeping things direct, unmediated and spontaneous-sounding seems to be his goal.

I wonder if making and remaking and remaking that one record may have been part of what turned him away from the initial Modern Lovers sound. But then again I think that recording multiple versions of his songs might just be his M.O., as the "Lost Album" on Doom & Gllom shows - or even his revisting of "Old World" on his last record.

Brio, Thursday, 18 February 2010 15:05 (sixteen years ago)

tyler i will go through it...my friend bought it at this mom and pop record story in south dakota, it's called "Attitude For Destruction" and its one of those old early 90s type bootleg double CDS that were made to look like legit releases

haha actually i'm looking now and it's on Deadline "A Division of Cleopatra Records" so who knows what it's like

there appears to be a fair amount of Hollywood Rose stuff (axl's pre-GNR band)....

also some apparent "gems" like "Kevin Dubrow, Tracii Guns & Gilby Clarke - Welcome to the Jungle"

El GarBage (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 18 February 2010 19:57 (sixteen years ago)

if Kevin Dubrow is involved, I'm there!

tylerw, Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:19 (sixteen years ago)

and re: a Richman box, I think it could be done, aside from label issues
one disc of original modern lovers stuff
one disc of late 70s/early 80s
one disc covering the rest of the career
one disc of live material?
i mean, you'd have to leave plenty out, but as far as an overview, i think it'd work ...

tylerw, Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:21 (sixteen years ago)

But you'd never please everybody - you got yer Hippy Ernie and the Hippie Johnny factions, yer I'm A Little Airplane guys and yer I'm A Little Dinosaur people. Could get ugly.

Brio, Thursday, 18 February 2010 22:21 (sixteen years ago)

and then there's that one dude who thinks Te Vas a Emocionar! is his best album

tylerw, Thursday, 18 February 2010 22:32 (sixteen years ago)

A pal'o'mine made me a fine 4 disc JR box about 10 years ago:

Disc 1:
She Cracked / Roadrunner / Pablo Picasso / I'm Straight / Dignified And Old / Girl Friend (from "The Modern Lovers")
The New Teller / Government Center / Roadrunner (new version) (from "Beserkley Chartbusters")
Back In The USA / Hey There Little Insect (from "Jonathan Richman & The Modern Lovers")
Ice Cream Man / Roller Coaster By The Sea / Dodge Veg-O-Matic / Egyptian Reggae (from "Rock'n'roll with The Modern Lovers)
I'm A Little Airplane / I'm A Little Dinosaur / The Morning Of Our Lives (from "Modern Lovers Live")
(She's Gonna) Respect Me / Back In Your Life / Lydia (from "Back In Your Life")

Disc 2:
Give Paris One More Chance / The Neighbors / When I'm Walking / The Tag Game (from "Jonathan Sings!")
The Beach / My Jeans / Down In Bermuda / Vincent Van Gogh / Walter Johnson / Chewing Gum Wrapper (from "Rockin' And Romance")
It's You / Let's Take A Trip / This Love Of Mine / Double Chocolate Malted / Just About Seventeen / Corner Store / When I Dance (from "It's Time For")
Dancin Late At Night / When Harpo Played His Harp / Gail Loves Me / I Love Hot Nights / I Have Come Out To Play (from "Modern Lovers 88")

Disc 3:
Action Packed / Everyday Clothes / Fender Stratocaster / Closer / I Eat With Gusto, Damn! You Bet / Miracles Will Start To Happen / Sleepwalk / Cerca (from "Jonathan Richman")
Since She Started To Ride / Reno / You're Crazy For Taking The Bus (from "Jonathan Goes Country")
The Girl Stands Up To Me Now / Capuccino Bar / My Career As A Homewrecker / She Doesn't Laugh At My Jokes / When She Kisses Me / At Night / When I Say Wife / Monologue About Bermuda / Our Swingin' Pad / Just For Fun (from "Having A Party With")

Disc 4:
Parties In The USA / You Can't Talk To The Dude / I Was Dancing In A Lesbian Bar / That Summer Feeling / A Higher Power (from "I, Jonathan")
I Love Hot Nights (live) (from "No Alternative" compilation)
Papel De Chicle / Compadrito Corazón / Melodía Tradicional Ecuadoriana / Una Fuerza Allá (from "¡Jonathan, Te Vas A Emocionar!")
To Hide A Little Thought / The Heart Of Saturday Night / Vampire Girl / Just Because I'm Irish / That's How I Feel / Nothing Can Change This Love / Nishi (from "You Must Ask The Heart")
Not Just A 'Plus One' On The Guest List Anymore / Rock 'N' Roll Drummer Straight From The Hospy-tel (from "Surrender To Jonathan")
When I Dance (new version) / Nineteen In Naples / The Lonely Little Thrift Store / True Love Is Not Nice / Love Me Like I Love / If She Don't Love Me (from "I'm So Confused")

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 18 February 2010 23:12 (sixteen years ago)

that looks awesome. want it!

tylerw, Thursday, 18 February 2010 23:57 (sixteen years ago)

Aw, twist my arm:
http://www.divshare.com/download/10518250-951
http://www.divshare.com/download/10518316-c35

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 19 February 2010 00:44 (sixteen years ago)

yr a god!

tylerw, Friday, 19 February 2010 00:58 (sixteen years ago)

btw gerald the last post on doom & gloom was a Robyn Hitchcock comp of odds n sods (mainly TV appearances) my friend put together. nothing terribly rare, but nice nonetheless!

tylerw, Friday, 19 February 2010 01:18 (sixteen years ago)

http://lagrimapsicodelica.blogspot.com/2010/01/jonathan-richman-and-modern-lovers.html

Brio, Friday, 19 February 2010 02:05 (sixteen years ago)

eeyowch ... (actually pretty amazing how many of those I own).
has anyone tracked this down? http://jojofiles.blogspot.com/2007/10/great-71-recordings-found.html
I don't do dime a dozen but I guess it was uploaded there ...

tylerw, Friday, 19 February 2010 02:14 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, i grabbed that.

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 19 February 2010 05:12 (sixteen years ago)

is it good? can you hook me up?
just put up a nice guided by voices radio session comp btw.
http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/

tylerw, Sunday, 21 February 2010 20:30 (sixteen years ago)

been listening to that GoB's set you posted awhile back recently. s'nice!!!

If you can believe your eyes and ears (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 21 February 2010 22:32 (sixteen years ago)

Tyler - apparently GBV's "Bug House" is a sampler of a larger set called "Broadcaster House". Do you have a lead on that? I'd love to hear it all.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 22 February 2010 02:09 (sixteen years ago)

i don't have the whole thing. this is where I got it from way back when I think: http://www.gbvdb.com/bughouse.asp
but yeah, this single disc makes me want the whole thing ...

tylerw, Monday, 22 February 2010 02:57 (sixteen years ago)

that whole gbv database is crazy by the way.
i get to re-live my first GBV live experience: http://www.gbvdb.com/album.asp?albumid=1133

tylerw, Monday, 22 February 2010 03:29 (sixteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I've long loved that site. An absolutely essential bookmark for Pollard fans.

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 22 February 2010 03:36 (sixteen years ago)

in honor of Doom & Gloom's one year anniversary -- a Neil Young covers comp! actually inspired by the ILM thread ... some fun stuff.

tylerw, Friday, 5 March 2010 02:51 (sixteen years ago)

is it good? can you hook me up?
just put up a nice guided by voices radio session comp btw.
http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/

― tylerw, Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:30 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

i can burn you a dvd-r with some rare richman stuff (would take too long to upload)--give me your email address and i'll contact you?

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 5 March 2010 07:18 (sixteen years ago)

Tyler - is there any more details about the Robyn Hitchcock TV appearances comp your friend put together, i.e. source information for each track?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 5 March 2010 15:08 (sixteen years ago)

Amateurist, that'd be awesome -- try tywilc AT gmail dot com
Gerald let me ask him -- I just have the tracklist:

Raymond Chandler Evening 2:02 Robyn Hitchcock
Brenda's Iron Sledge (Old Grey Whistle Test) 3:04 Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians
The West Coast of America 0:47 Robyn Hitchcock
The Man With the Light Bulb Head / Strawberry Mind (The Patio) 4:05 Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians
Kingdom Of Love (The Patio) 4:24 Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians Heaven (Old Grey Whistle Test) 3:41 Robyn Hitchcock & The Egyptians
The Calvary Cross (Live 1989) 4:13 Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians Madonna of the Wasps (David Letterman) 3:42 Robyn Hitchcock and the World's Most Dangerous Band
You're Watching "120 Minutes" 1:05 Robyn Hitchcock
The Ghost In You (Tower Records) 3:15 Robyn Hitchcock
On the Streets of New York (Eye Promo) 2:45 Robyn Hitchcock Watch Your Intelligence: Robyn Hitchcock on YouTube
So You Think You're In Love (Acoustic) 2:48 Robert Hitchcock and the Egyptians Birds in Perspex (Acoustic) 4:09 Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians Ultra Unbelievable Love (Dennis Miller Show) 3:49 Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians
Arms of Love/Wild Mountain Thyme (Mountain Stage) 8:38 Robyn Hitchcock, Peter Buck and Deni Bonet
I Feel Beautiful (Jon Brion Show) 4:21 Robyn Hitchcock and Jon Brion Winchester (Criminal Records) 4:37 Robyn Hitchcock
Not Dark Yet (Dylan Tribute) 5:52 Robyn Hitchcock & John Paul Jones

tylerw, Friday, 5 March 2010 15:25 (sixteen years ago)

The Neil covers are awesome. I just made a comp of dylan covers/ripoffs kinda in the same vein as your neil one - lots of soul/r&b, garage rock and french pop versions.

Brio, Friday, 5 March 2010 15:46 (sixteen years ago)

yeah it was fun to hear all the interpretations! would love to hear the dylan comp ... you wanna be a doom&gloom contributor?

tylerw, Friday, 5 March 2010 15:48 (sixteen years ago)


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