Wire - 154: Classic or Dud?

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classic - the Sgt. Pepper's of punk(/postpunk)

lyrically/vocally I see it as something to work through, beyond (kill this buddha, the road leads on)
love "Blessed State" though - an all time fave:
"loved in the flesh, but butchered in the mind"

sonically awesome - production masterpiece + terrific hooks and sounds.
much Cocteau Twins seems a worthy continuation of parts of 154 -
e.g. intro to "A Touching Display"

one review at the time (Rolling Stone?) read: Wire, Get Out Of Marienbad (!!!)

Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

presumably a writer who found the earlier albums less(?!) abstract?

Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

eh - not a dud, but totally worse than PF and CM

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

ten months pass...

best album evah

are the PF/CM/154 remasters worth getting?

jabba hands, Friday, 1 June 2007 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

Still interminable.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 1 June 2007 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

I'd take Pink Flag over Young & The Hopeless now, but it's close. I'd take Good Morning Revival over 154 by a mile though.

da croupier, Friday, 1 June 2007 05:20 (nineteen years ago)

I think I will call 154 the Sgt. Pepper's of punk(/postpunk), though. The Sgt. Pepper's of punk(/postpunk) SCREWED & CHOPPED.

da croupier, Friday, 1 June 2007 05:28 (nineteen years ago)

Or maybe The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway of punk(/postpunk)

da croupier, Friday, 1 June 2007 05:32 (nineteen years ago)

Still interminable.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, June 1, 2007 3:02 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

kind of redundant

s1ocki, Friday, 1 June 2007 05:41 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

I'm coming towards the end of my first ever listen to this record. Feeling pretty chuffed tbh.

restraint and blindness (Just got offed), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 12:54 (seventeen years ago)

Dome next then Louis?

MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 13:02 (seventeen years ago)

Also upthread: enthusiastic British poster of my own current age gushing untempered praise, seen here before inevitable transformation into laconic cynical antiamerican who makes improper jokes about gun control

Dome? Is that Wire's 4th album?

restraint and blindness (Just got offed), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 13:05 (seventeen years ago)

Dome was a Graham Lewis side project.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 13:10 (seventeen years ago)

Lewis and Gilbert's side project and generally well worth your attention.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 13:11 (seventeen years ago)

But don't expect it to be anything like Wire

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 13:13 (seventeen years ago)

I don't mind things that don't sound like other things.

restraint and blindness (Just got offed), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 13:16 (seventeen years ago)

Then you will do well...

MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 13:18 (seventeen years ago)

who's this pre-ilm-makeover british poster you refer to?

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 13:19 (seventeen years ago)

Some say his name is...MP4xA

but I am loathe to believe them

restraint and blindness (Just got offed), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 13:20 (seventeen years ago)

*loath

restraint and blindness (Just got offed), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 13:21 (seventeen years ago)

grr

restraint and blindness (Just got offed), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 13:21 (seventeen years ago)

what happened to sundar?

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 13:27 (seventeen years ago)

Still shows up now and again

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 13:32 (seventeen years ago)

Did you like "Map Reference..." JGO? It's my favourite Wire song.

Neil S, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 18:54 (seventeen years ago)

the 15th is one of my fav songs ever recorded

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 19:05 (seventeen years ago)

That's great too!

Neil S, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 19:15 (seventeen years ago)

ya map reference is rly gd but then so is the whole album

shouldn't rly pick a favourite but maybe "i should have known better" is edging it atm

restraint and blindness (Just got offed), Sunday, 9 November 2008 21:06 (seventeen years ago)

"the 15th" is timeless brilliance, mind

restraint and blindness (Just got offed), Sunday, 9 November 2008 21:23 (seventeen years ago)

i'm rly falling for the tuneful ones like those two and "a mutual friend", sheesh, i feel like i'm cheating or something

but "a touching display" is mega-awes along with the vast majority of the rest so that's probably ok

restraint and blindness (Just got offed), Sunday, 9 November 2008 21:44 (seventeen years ago)

Two People in a Room is fantastic.

z "R" s (Z S), Sunday, 9 November 2008 21:45 (seventeen years ago)

Music to gnash teeth and rip seams to

z "R" s (Z S), Sunday, 9 November 2008 21:47 (seventeen years ago)

It's a great bit of musical panic, superbly sequenced between the showstopping opener and the gorgeous, relaxing 3rd. 15th. Whatever. It's a great complacency-destroying song.

restraint and blindness (Just got offed), Sunday, 9 November 2008 21:50 (seventeen years ago)

i'm rly falling for the tuneful ones like those two and "a mutual friend", sheesh, i feel like i'm cheating or something

Your instincts are correct, I assure you.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 9 November 2008 22:02 (seventeen years ago)

ten months pass...

"I Should Have Known Better" is probably one of my 5 to 10 favourite songs ever...I cannot overemphasise its perfection

alien vs the smiths (country matters), Saturday, 19 September 2009 18:10 (sixteen years ago)

I sometimes think the versions of "Touching Display" and "Map Ref 41 N93 W" on "Behind the Curtain" are better than the album versions.

lacipetersonskid, Saturday, 19 September 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

"Blessed State" oh, what a pearl.

nerve_pylon, Saturday, 19 September 2009 21:36 (sixteen years ago)

most/all of the Rockpalast (1979 German TV) performances are on YouTube, just search Wire Rockpalast (or individual 154 titles). features much/most of the album live(?) - oddly enough sounds reasonably close sonically/arrangements to the album versions (unlike the dry demos). worth checking just to see it sung! (and that music coming from 4 guys...)

Paul, Sunday, 20 September 2009 00:05 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah they put that out on DVD too. Wire on the Box. There are some Chairs Missing songs in the set, and a really nice "Pink Flag" right at the end.

Trip Maker, Sunday, 20 September 2009 00:07 (sixteen years ago)

Is there anyone who really doesn't think this is a total classic? Even if you prefer the previous albums (which on some days I do).

The "Behind The Curtains" versions are amazing, though, in that neither-here-nor-there midground they straddle between punk and post-punk.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 20 September 2009 01:53 (sixteen years ago)

i think it's really good but not a total classic; a few songs that just bore me. "a touching display", "map ref", and the first three tracks are definitely classic.

skeletor, Sunday, 20 September 2009 02:12 (sixteen years ago)

kinda in the mood for this album, all of a sudden

skeletor, Sunday, 20 September 2009 02:12 (sixteen years ago)

xp a few songs that just bore me

skeletor, Sunday, 20 September 2009 02:12 (sixteen years ago)

Glad to see the love for this. Seems like it was often unfairly derided as a dip in quality. Poppycock. It's #24 on my all-time list. It would be higher, except there was a lot of competition from that era, like Television, Buzzcocks, Feelies, Gang of Four, Raincoats, P.i.L.

Wire On The Box: 1979 is available on Netflix!

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 16:59 (sixteen years ago)

rah!

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 23:27 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

Providing
Deciding

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:21 (fourteen years ago)

It was soon there

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:43 (fourteen years ago)

so fucking classic, this is the first post-punk album that blew my mind

♈ᘮﬡᕮ-Ꭹᗩᖇᗪᔕ - ᗯ ᖺ ᗢ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

It really redefined the meaning of vendetta for me.

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

It was soon there

― kornrulez6969, Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:43 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

so fucking classic, this is the first post-punk album that blew my mind

― ♈ᘮﬡᕮ-Ꭹᗩᖇᗪᔕ - ᗯ ᖺ ᗢ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Thursday, January 26, 2012 4:08 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

69 + 85 = 154 Huh? HUH???!!

John Nestle Harding (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 18 March 2012 01:19 (fourteen years ago)

No, 154 was the number of gigs they had played at that point. Or so the legend says.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 18 March 2012 01:33 (fourteen years ago)


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