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hi, i found a compilation on slsk calling itself "arthur on the floor", containing these tracks:

Treehouse/Schoolbell [Walter Gibbons mix] 10:12
Treehouse/Schoolbell [Arthur Russell mix.1] 6:54
Treehouse/Schoolbell [Arthur Russell mix.2] 3:23
Let's Go Swimming [Walter Gibbons Coastal dub] 7:50
Let's Go Swimming [Gulf Stream dub] 5:18
Let's Go Swimming [Puppy Surf mix] 5:21
Wax the Van [Kenny's club version] 5:30
Wax the Van [Cherry's Club] 5:38
Wax the Van [radio edit] 4:00
Wax the Van [Jon's dub] 7:12
Go Bang! 5:37
Is it All Over My Face? [Larry Levan mix] 6:56

can't find out much from google; i was wondering if anyone here knows if this saw a proper release, or if it's just someone's homemade digitization of the twelve-inches. any help is much appreciated.

― rmd (dj gauge transformation), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

definately not an official release.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

damn. i was holding out a faint hope of getting my hands on a copy. oh well. thanks for your help though.

― rmd (dj gauge transformation), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

There must be multiple releases of Wax the Van because my 12" only has 2 cuts.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

it would be nice to hear version beyond whats on World of Arthur Russell - i've thought was kind of crappy

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 22 August 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

well, here's the comp i was asking about. sorry if it's too big.

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3IMCKDJ17J8JJ1B2A5ZHECYV0Q

― rmd (dj gauge transformation), Monday, 22 August 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

I didn't realize 'til now that the above "Arthur on the floor" track listing was something definitively/broadly disseminated, having just got it given to me by a friend when I was starting to become consumed by Arthur. I can't recommend listening to all the "Schoolbell/Treehouse" and "Let's Go Swimming" mixes as one murky chunk highly enough, though. I love how each mix is a little continuation of the other; it's a great intro to his work.

― Craig Dunsmuir, Monday, 22 August 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

Also, in case no one noticed it, there's a lovely Arthur mix on the "heart" page of Audika's site right now, from a tribute to him on his 51st birthday recently. Mostly released tracks mixed with sounds of the sea, but definitely a couple ('World of Echo'-style) tracks I haven't heard before in the mix.

― I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

who's gonna pust the Loft box-set version of Is It All Over My Face in all it's hippie jam glory?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

i had no idea the one on the loft box set was another version. i had always just assumed it was the 12" version and thus have never even played it! i shall look it out tomorrow.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

it's uploading now. i love that version about 100x more than the original.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

There's a Loft Box set !!???

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

stir...oh man dude no way! It's a totally different like, demo version, sounds more like some hippie band drum circle then a raw disco track. On another note, I'm about to revive a Renegade Soundwave thread to ask some questions, so please look for that...

walter...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00001ZTY0/103-6549972-3840612?v=glance

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

there are two loft box sets. x post.

yeah dan. how dumb am i? will look out for the revived rsw thread.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

http://www.discogs.com/release/24211

http://www.discogs.com/release/104215

xxp again

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

Not really "box-sets" in the usual sense (just double CDs with a cardboard sleeve). That said, the music is perfect, and the design is beautiful.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:57 (twenty years ago)

is it all over my face 11:55"

the vinyls are boxed.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

Oh ok. I was picturing (hoping for) some kind of 10 disc epic thing.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

xpost - Ah! I get it.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, the vinyl came in a nice box, and the liner notes, 12" x 12" featured some discussion about a few of the tracks. I thought it was weird to only have a few so I emailed nuphonic to see if I was missing anything. Nope. There's also a complimentary 10" featuring another version of Risco Connection's beautiful Ain't No Stopping Us Now. I think the box set was presented as a bootleg killer, as people like me were spending lots of money buying those Loft and Garage Classics bootlegs...I remember Mancuso/Nuphonic stating that explicitely. But those are great bootlegs and I still bring them around with me for the convenience of having key songs on one record. First place I heard How Much are They?, Don Ray's Standing in the Rain, It Ain't Reggae, Delirium, Double Journey etc etc.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

and stirmonster, I know you dig Love Heartache cuz you played it on Beats in Space, but have you heard the weird Vinyl Mania tribute record that came out recently with the Tom Moulton mix? It's on the Crazy Rhythms CD.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

yup, i picked up that love heartache doublepack last time i was in nyc dan. btw, really enjoying your mix cd.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

thanks. andwhilewe're(ok me)talkingaboutmymix...for those who want to support the arts:

http://igetrvng.com/shop_mx4.html

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)

I had some downtime at work so I thought I would decode the Arthur on the Floor comp for obsessives like myself (I like my ID3 tags as close to 'reality' as I can get):

Treehouse/Schoolbell [Walter Gibbons mix] 10:12
= Indian Ocean: School Bell/Treehouse from School Bell/Treehouse 12" (SLX-023X)
http://www.discogs.com/release/95379

Treehouse/Schoolbell [Arthur Russell mix.1] 6:54
= Indian Ocean: Treehouse/School Bell from School Bell/Treehouse 12" (SLX-023X)
http://www.discogs.com/release/95379

Treehouse/Schoolbell [Arthur Russell mix.2] 3:23
= Indian Ocean: Treehouse/School Bell (Short Version) from School Bell/Treehouse 12" (12 BRW 57 DJ)
http://www.discogs.com/release/435779

Let's Go Swimming [Walter Gibbons Coastal dub] 7:50
Let's Go Swimming [Gulf Stream dub] 5:18
Let's Go Swimming [Puppy Surf mix] 5:21 (actually Puppy Surf Dub)
= Arthur Russell: Let's Go Swimming 12"
http://www.discogs.com/release/372073

Wax the Van [Kenny's club version] 5:30
Wax the Van [Cherry's Club] 5:38
Wax the Van [radio edit] 4:00
Wax the Van [Jon's dub] 7:12
= Lola: Wax the Van 12"
http://www.discogs.com/release/98656

not sure about these next two:

Go Bang! 5:37
= Dinosaur L: Go Bang (Dinosaur L Bangs Again) from Go Bang 12"
http://www.discogs.com/release/335007

Is it All Over My Face? [Larry Levan mix] 6:56
Loose Joints: Is It All Over My Face (Female Vocal/Larry Levan Mix) from Is It All Over My Face 12"
http://www.discogs.com/release/231272

Now if I could just figure out where my 9:28 version of Let's Go Swimming comes from ...

― Brakhage (brakhage), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)

Dinosaur L Bangs Again is straight up a house version, released after Todd Terry's Bango I believe, and is noticeably different. Kinda fun though. Which version of Treehouse/Schoolbell appears on Disco Not Disco 1?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)

Should be the b-side to School Bell/Treehouse 12" (SLX-023X)

― Brakhage (brakhage), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)

The non-Gibbons mix.

― Brakhage (brakhage), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

If my Dinosaur L Bangs Again attribution is wrong, then I'm stumped. Dunno where that one comes from.

― Brakhage (brakhage), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

thanks. andwhilewe're(ok me)talkingaboutmymix...for those who want to support the arts:
http://igetrvng.com/shop_mx4.html

I wasn't aware it was you! Killer tracklist. I ordered it last week, it should arrive soon...

― willem (willem), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:56 (twenty years ago)

also, thanks to all those who provided (the info on) the 'on the floor' comp. i had that one on my old computer, glad to have it back!

― willem (willem), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:57 (twenty years ago)

hope you like it willem...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

thanks to everyone who posted arthur ysi... amazing. does anyone have the different versions of "tell you today" - i've never heard the new shoes mix...

― jon dale, Friday, 26 August 2005 07:52 (twenty years ago)

I just stumbled on this blog and thought I would contibute a couple of things...I've just finished mastering a 2 CD set of Arthur's orchestral and instrumental music. The title is FIRST THOUGHT BEST THOUGHT. It will include the previously released albums Instrumentals Vol. 2 and Tower Of Meaning, plus 50 minutes of unreleased music. The original LP release of Instrumentals Vol. 2 was filled with errors. Lousy pressing, incorrect credits, and they mastered the second side at the wrong speed! All of these have been corrected, plus I found 25 minutes of music sequenced and edited by Arthur that he asked be included on the LP but wasn't. Other highlights include a compostion Reach (for two fender rhodes), and a the original version of Sketch For The Face of Helen that is totally different from the short excerpt found on Fruit Of The Original sin. This one is keyboards, tugboats sounds, and a tone generator. Both Helen and Reach are from Instrumentals Vol. 1. Really beautiful stuff. I'm in the art/design/credits stage now, and I hope to have it all out in November. The Springfield/DFA mix (thank you Beta Boy) is still being worked on but what I've heard to date is amazing. It may end up as an EP with a couple more unreleased tracks. I really want to release a song called See My Brother He's Jumping Out which we left off of Calling Out Of Context. It's basically the first version of Let's Go Swimming and was recorded and mastered for CORN which Sleeping Bag rejected. Personally speaking I like See My Brother.much more than Let's Go Swimming. After I get these out I want to do a compilation of Arthur's Cowboy and Folk songs, and then I'll get to 24-24 etc. And I just mastered the entire Sketchs For World Of Echo which is another long story and when I figure it out I'll post it on the Audika page. Regarding the 12" of Tell You Today..the promo and commercial 12" versions are very different. The commercial version has a very long dub.

― Steven Knutson, Saturday, 27 August 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

Fuck! Yeah!

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 27 August 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

nice, thanks for the info, good to finally hear 24-24 will see the light. Regarding the collaboration with DFA, which I think is a really cool idea, if you do that again with unfinished stuff I'd even more excited to hear what Metro Area or Danny Wang would do with the material...just a(nother) thought!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 27 August 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

Alright, Mr. Knutson! You're doing great work, I really couldn't be more thrilled by what's been (finally) happening the last couple years. Great to hear (via you) that 'Another Thought' is being reissued---that's the first I heard, and how I fell in love.

― I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 27 August 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

wait, where did Steve say "Another Thought" was being reissued?

― Beta (abeta), Saturday, 27 August 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

Another Thought will be re-issued by Orange Mountain Music early next year. OMM is Philip Glass's independent label. OMM licensed it from Decca UK which owns the rights to Point, Philip's old label that originally issued Another Thought. Confused yet? I wanted to re-release it on Audika, but Arthur's estate did not own the copywrite, and I'm not into licensing already released material. My mantra is the unheard for all to hear.

― steven Knutson, Saturday, 27 August 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Another Thought is great. but i'm so confused. i must have the original issue but where the fuck did i get it? at any rate, its great that this is being re-issued.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Saturday, 27 August 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I still can't remember how I came to buy 'Another Thought,' or when exactly. I think I got it around '98, but I know I didn't really listen to it till '99 and I was suddenly deeply smitten. Then I found 'World of Echo' and started copying it for everyone I could get to listen.

― I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 28 August 2005 00:10 (twenty years ago)

my funny Another Thought story involves finding a cd copy on gemm cut-out for 2 dollars, but with 12 dollar or so shipping from australia.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 28 August 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)

but you're still excited that technically you got it for $2! or atleast that'd be MY rationale.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Sunday, 28 August 2005 01:12 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, if you'd been in Australia (and coulda picked it up onsite, instead springing for Kangaroo Express across town), it would have been only $2.00 (long as you paid American)!

― don, Sunday, 28 August 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)

i wish i'd bought thirty

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 28 August 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

the way I saw it I paid what I'd pay buying a new CD in the states. I was definately happy.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 28 August 2005 05:47 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

I've been unable to listen to pretty much anything besides "In the Light of the Miracle" off The World of Arthur Russell for going on a week now. The further Audika releases can't come soon enough.

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 13 October 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

Can anyone re-ysi those tracks up thread? Thanks

― some best friend, Thursday, 13 October 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

as hardly anyone got it in glasgow, i thought i'd post up pictures of my friend's arthur rustle (sic) halloween costume. also note face mask with 'is it?' all over it.

http://www.optimo.co.uk/rustle.jpg

http://www.optimo.co.uk/swimming.jpg

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

and tiny cello too!

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

LOL

― willem (willem), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

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