― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 November 2003 17:17 (twenty years ago) link
You know, I've had that "enhanced" special edition CD deal ever since they released it, practically, and it just sits there in my bedroom gathering dust, because the first time I listened to it I realized they had misled us into thinking it was going to be the version of the album with all those David Kershenbaum remixes, but instead it turned out to be just a cleaned-up version of the regular CD release. I had no idea there were additional things on that CD aside from the music and the three videos that they stuck on there. (Predictably for the clueless Crapitol they went for the more commercially available videos and included "Rio", "Hungry Like The Wolf", and "Save A Prayer", thus completely ignoring the video for the "disco-fied" "My Own Way" and the video for "Lonely In Your Nightmare".) Wow. So there's a discography on there. I'm going to actually have to fire up that baby on the computer sometime soonish.
(p.s.: Please, hon, call me Dee.)
― Pancakes For Breakfast! (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 15 November 2003 07:14 (twenty years ago) link
make a CD80 of latter day tracks and post it! Then I will burn it and listen as I drive around!
... and here it is, complete with run times of each of the songs listed:
"My Antarctica" (5:00)"Serious" (4:20)"Ordinary World" (5:39)"Love Voodoo" (4:58)"Sin Of The City" (7:14)"Breath After Breath" (4:58)"Fallen Angel" (4:35)"Drive By" (5:34)"Watching The Detectives" (4:48)"Big Bang Generation" (4:40)"Electric Barbarella" (5:16)"Out Of My Mind" (4:16)"Be My Icon" (5:10)"So Long Suicide" (4:37)"Undergoing Treatment" (3:05)"Sinner And Saint" ("Electric Barbarella" b-side) (4:50)
Total run time: 79 minutes, exactly. I did a list up which included "Come Undone", but that would've pushed the compilation to 83 minutes and 38 seconds, which would've been impossible. I figured that since you had "Come Undone" in your other compilation, and that "Ordinary World" is such a personal song to me that I would really want you to have it in here too, that "Come Undone" could get cut.
Enjoy! (And I'm definitely going to enjoy making this one for myself. *grins*)
― Pancakes For Breakfast! (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 15 November 2003 23:58 (twenty years ago) link
― jack cole (jackcole), Sunday, 16 November 2003 00:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 16 November 2003 00:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 16 November 2003 00:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 16 November 2003 00:34 (twenty years ago) link
― pompit, Sunday, 16 November 2003 20:55 (twenty years ago) link
Yeah! That's why I like them.
― Dracula Rumsfeld, Sunday, 16 November 2003 20:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 16 November 2003 21:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 16 November 2003 22:46 (twenty years ago) link
― sucka (sucka), Monday, 17 November 2003 00:49 (twenty years ago) link
WHERE THE BLOODY HELL WERE YOU GUYS WHEN I WAS IN GRADE SCHOOL OR HIGH SCHOOL?!
I got SO much shit from my classmates throughout grade and high schools for being a Duran fan. I either got asked, "Ew, you like those old people?" or, "Who are they?" I didn't even know there were any other fans out there until 1997, when I went online for the first time and found out that there WERE other fans out there.
God, I would've been in fangirl heaven if you'd have also been there.
― Pancakes For Breakfast! (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 17 November 2003 06:47 (twenty years ago) link
If you don't like Duran Duran's music, just say so, understood? I am not having any more elitist malarkey concerning the band. I've forced down more than enough shit like that by practically everyone in the mainstream music media. If you don't like their music personally, you have every right to, but saying that they "suck" is also essentially saying that my taste in music "sucks" because I adore this band.
Look, Duran's music has saved my sanity time and again. "Ordinary World" and "So Long Suicide" are songs that have especially personal connotations to me. I have been a fan of the band through some of the rockiest of roads. I champion them and defend them and I am NOT about to have some random person tell me that all of that means nothing because it does. It may not to you, but it definitely does to me.
― Pancakes For Breakfast! (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 17 November 2003 07:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 17 November 2003 07:35 (twenty years ago) link
but you saying they're great if i think they suck is essentially saying that my taste in music sucks! so how dare you sing their praises? seriously, come on... this is a "classic or dud" thread. expect a few posts on the dud side.
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 17 November 2003 08:12 (twenty years ago) link
What? You make no sense to me. All I'm doing is going on about how much of a fan I am and how much I know about the band. This is the message I get from the jack coles of the world (and there are TONS of them):
"Oh God, Duran Duran sucks ass and you are a fool for being a fan of their music because it is horribly wretched and how can you even consider yourself to have any good taste whatsoever when you're such a huge fan of such shit? You just like them because they're attractive, face it -- you don't take music seriously because you like them and they wouldn't have been nearly as successful had they not been as physically attractive as they were, because their music certainly wasn't going to do it for them."
I can't even count how many times I've gotten this message -- from every single mainstream music press person and "serious music" fan I've come across out there. So excuse me for being a bit touchy. I do recognize that one could not like that kind of music and say, "Well, for me personally, they're completely dud." But I am not standing for anything that gives off the message of, "You are the world's biggest fool for caring as much about this one band as you do because they are so utterly untalented." I've had enough shit like that from the Rolling Stones and the Qs of the world.
― Pancakes For Breakfast! (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 14:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Pancakes For Breakfast! (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 14:43 (twenty years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Citizen Kate (kate), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:39 (twenty years ago) link
I look up information on this group, The Field Mice (because I honestly have no idea who they are), if you point me in the direction of someone who is taken seriously in the music world (music press, music recording, etc.) who also acts as an advocate for Duran Duran and obviously loves their music.
Until then, I remain unmoved.
― Pancakes For Breakfast! (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 22:24 (twenty years ago) link
― cs appleby (cs appleby), Thursday, 20 November 2003 03:59 (twenty years ago) link
I was born in late 1979, and look at how passionate a fan of Duran Duran I am. I've seen them six times in concert. Granted, it wasn't the "fab five" lineup I was seeing at the time, but I'm a huge fan of all the lineups the band has had, including the "unofficial Duran reunion-ette" otherwise known as The Devils. (Stephen Duffy and Nick Rhodes, together again for the first time since early 1979!)
However, with any luck, next year I will be seeing the "fab five" lineup, as they (hopefully) support that new album thing they've been talking about for over a year and a half already!
― Pancakes For Breakfast! (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 20 November 2003 05:13 (twenty years ago) link
Wyclef Jean (who I've never listened to but he's a mainstream music guy), he listed Rio as his #1 favorite album ever, I'm pretty sure.
― sucka (sucka), Thursday, 20 November 2003 08:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Allyzay, Tuesday, 9 March 2004 01:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 01:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 02:04 (twenty years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 05:33 (twenty years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 05:41 (twenty years ago) link
Did they ever.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 05:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 12:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 21:23 (twenty years ago) link
Dr C have you seen sense yet?
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 21:30 (twenty years ago) link
So any word on the new album?
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 22:13 (twenty years ago) link
― anode (anode), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 22:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 22:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Allyzay, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 03:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 03:58 (twenty years ago) link
Praise Dee, for she understands. High five sistah.
My husband likes the Field Mice. The worst he's ever had to deal with is paying too much for an import album. Cry me a fucking river.
The day a Field Mice fan is cornered in a middle school cafeteria and publicly taunted by mean-spirited 12 year olds for liking the band is the day fortunate hazel wins the debate. There's a difference between liking a band that critics don't acknowledge or appreciate and loving a band to an overwhelming degree and having everyone -- critics, record store clerks, friends, lovers, enemies, random people on the street, radio and video program directors -- openly and publicly shitting on them for fifteen years just because they were popular and pretty.
Considering that being popular and pretty are two of the most important things in the world in most western cultures, this is only slightly ironic.
― Catty (Catty), Sunday, 9 May 2004 00:36 (twenty years ago) link
Datz rich.
― jack cole (jackcole), Sunday, 9 May 2004 00:40 (twenty years ago) link
it's DURANIME!
Experience Duran Duran live on the current tour. Do they sound just like the record? Almost. They're tighter than a [insert YOUR lewd comment here].
― Catty (Catty), Sunday, 9 May 2004 00:44 (twenty years ago) link
Due: October 4th [UK] October 5th [US] on Epic
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 August 2004 09:43 (twenty years ago) link
As far as the Field Mice comparison goes, I'm not really sure it's fair. Bobby Wratten has been vindicated those last few years (even though I know they were ridiculed in the eighties) with Trembling Blue Stars, recognized for the wonderful songwriter he is, but no such thing has happened to Duran Duran. I mean, the whole New Romantics movement is still considered vomit-inducing by many (most) music journalists.
― Maria Jacobsson (mariajacobsson), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 6 August 2004 18:10 (twenty years ago) link
― phil d., Friday, 6 August 2004 18:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 6 August 2004 18:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 August 2004 18:44 (twenty years ago) link
I've gotten a chance to listen to some of the demo tracks that have been floating about online and I think the songs are quite solid. The lyrics aren't as obtuse, mainly because Simon's writer's block has meant that more of the lyric-writing responsibilities have been passed on down to the rest of the band, mostly Nick if the trend from Pop Trash has continued. Even though the demos were mostly produced by Nile Rodgers and the actual album itself is going to be produced by a few other producers, including Jason Nevins (apparently -- he's the one who did the remix of "Sunrise" for the Queer Eye soundtrack), I think they're not going to sound tremendously different. Maybe a bit more polished and hi-fi and maybe tracks such as "Pretty Ones" will be transformed into actual full-length ones, but still, not that much of a change.
I'm glad you included the new label in that news update. Duran signed with Epic a few months back, apparently agreeing to release two or three albums with the label. I have no idea what happened between them and Hollywood Records, which released Pop Trash in 2000, but I do know that even during the Thank You and Medazzaland era, Capitol were doing more publicity for the band than Hollywood ever did.
Also, heads up -- first single for the band is going to be "Sunrise", with a video directed by the Polish Brothers [never heard of them before in my life].
The video, directed by the Polish Brothers, was shot in four countries - US (California desert/John), Ibiza (on the beach, out in the countryside and at 10,000 capacity club - Manumission/Andy), Spain (up in the Pyrennes/Simon) and in London (Roger and Nick).
Sounds... weird. *shrug* Oh well. Better than the Flash video nightmare that was "Someone Else Not Me". (Yes, it was a video made purely from Flash. Made a pretty screen saver, but not a video.)
― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:38 (twenty years ago) link
― phil d., Friday, 6 August 2004 21:47 (twenty years ago) link
As for the title of the album -- trust me, it will probably factor in heavily with the theme of the album. Medazzaland, i.e. my favorite album of theirs, was an album filled with songs about the perplexing modern world, how the dizzying effects of so much change and chaos could affect someone in the same manner as would an injection of a hallucinatory sedative would. Pop Trash dealt with the trashy and disposable, from fame to the search for true love, in songs that were bookmarked by the not-so-trashy, i.e. one song about showing love toward someone else by setting them free, and another song about living life as if each day were the last day one were on Earth. Maybe Astronaut will have as much meaning.
Thus says the ever-eternal, "shit, I can't help being this way" optimistic fangirl.
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Oh? No way. So would you advise me to look forward to this video, then?
― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 6 August 2004 22:00 (twenty years ago) link