If you actively dislike Creedence Clearwater Revival, then I can never respect anything you have to say about anything.

i just wanna pop in to say that i am more proud of this thrad than any other thread i have started on ILM ever.

They were overrated, but I don't actively dislike them.

Yo Colonel: also go for the song 'Ramble Tamble' for brilliant uncharacteristic mesmeric psych jam!

also on this tip - Pagan Baby!! total killer, that one.

I youtubed that Woodstock stuff this weekend

!!! I have never seen this footage, wasn't aware it was even available

"They've pretty much been erased from the collective UK memory"

Yes, it took a lot of work, but we did it. Skynyrd are next.

christ no wonder the uk's music scene sucks

hahaha

sad but true

Amen.

i'd got to war for CCR

CCR haters hate your freedom

HEY SHAKEY MOOOOO

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ccr+woodstock

ja watched all those last night - thx!

"christ no wonder the uk's music scene sucks"

Of course, it's stuff like this that prompts us UK'ers who like CCR in practice to hate them in principle.

Thinking about what you said about CCR not being that well known in the UK in spite of their (quite considerable) chart success, maybe that's because they were considered a sort of pop band? Therefore not deemed interesting enough for proggers? More conjecture, in the 70s, didn't Status Quo basically become a kind of UK version of CCR? Blotting out CCR in the process?

ohhhhh that's right you Britishers are obsessed with categories of music and such, i forgot. carry on.

And Americans aren't?!?! LOL

Ugh.

i said obsessed, not aware of

"didn't Status Quo basically become a kind of UK version of CCR?"

Quo, at their peak, were far heavier than CCR could dream of being.

Quo were louder. Louder ain't heavier. And fey faux-"psychedelic" vocals damn sure ain't heavier than Fogerty.

Quo's thing was brutal, unrelenting riffage. They helped create metal as we know it. Not for what they added, but for all they stripped away.

oh thank god ilx is back

i missed its brutal, unrelenting idiocy

What's wrong with brutal, unrelenting idiocy? We all love the Ramones, nicht wahr?

heads-down boogie and chooglin' are two very different things, my man.

amen!

"heads-down boogie and chooglin' are two very different things, my man"

OTM, and I hpe we can part as friends on that one,

This is a great thread, but I kinda regret reviving it. Having three CCR threads among all Geir's polls for a couple of days was rad though.

chronicles vol. 1

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Tom - yeah, you might have a point there. A lot of people seem to know "Bad Moon Rising" and "Fortunate Son", but often don't know who it's by.

I personally think that CCR didn't have the kind of "media presence" here that they did in the US. A lot of rock''roll memory is about associating a name to a face. I kind of think that the British equivalent is T-Rex. Lot's of Americans probably know "Get It On" ("Bang A Gong"), but didn't have enough TV exposure of Marc Bolan for T-Rex to become iconic in the USA.

I understand where you are coming from with the Status Quo reference, but I think the USA vs. UK disconnect is due to the different ways our respective media work (especially TV) than any profound musical differences.

Dude we love T. Rex

But not in the same way you love CCR. Which is kind of my point.

i dunno, there's a lot of love for them (T. Rex) over here.

C'mon, as PhilK said there are a handful of T Rex songs that are huge in the US, but T Rex doesn't have anything like the profile of CCR on e.g. classic rock radio. You can regularly hear 80% of Chronicle vol 1 there, but the only T Rex you'll regularly get is "Get It On".

They're both great bands (imho obv.)

But I'm talking in kind of "folk memory" terms, which is admittedly vague, but...

The difference I sense is that CCR have a strong sentimental appeal to Americans - they're the kind of consensus band that everyone can love, through various generations, whereas T-Rex have a different kind of appeal - more different, more alien.

And the same applies to T-Rex in the UK - generally they have a univeral cross-generational appeal, whereas CCR are more of a niche classic rock/americanophile band (and I'm an americanophile at heart).

Of course, this may just be my personal perception, but it seems to be "true" to me.

did CCR ever tour the UK...?

cuz that might explain a bit.

if I had a band we would start every show with "Ramble Tamble."

but chooglin' though

truer now than it ever was

"by the way, in 1969, Bayou Country reached #41 on Billboard's "Black Albums" chart"

Led Zep were on the black LP chart too that year

while both bands were undeniably influenced by black music, somehow or another those groups on the soul listings is kinda farfetched

Wow. Creedence really is a black hole for us Britishers. 2 questions : Why any good? Where to start?

1) Chooglin'
2) Records

how did i never see ian post this and post to it?

I'd say the best entry point would be "Green River" (altho all the LPs are remarkably solid, with the possible exception of their swansong, "Mardi Gras")

Explaining WHY they are great is a bit more complex.

Where to start? Chronicle Volume 1. Why any good? Read the thread.

Does ben hate CCR?

ooh yeah Chronicles Vol 1 has all the hits, I forgot about their collections.

altho it should be noted that that's all the singles, and the weirder/crazier/more interesting stuff like Ramble Tamble (which I think one the CCR POO poll?) and Pagan Baby and such are not on there