Yo P&J, I'm really happy for you, Imma let you finish, but ILX had the greatest 2009 poll of all time! All time! (2009 ILX Trax Poll Results: TOP TEN TODAY)

I'm just not there yet on Taylor, you guys. I don't mind watching her act, whether it be comedy or drama, but I'm just not into her as a musician/singer/critical anomaly.

"Love Story" actually peaked on the Hot 100 in January 2009 and was still in the top 20 as late as May.

i would think taylor swift is someone you either like or don't, moreso than "get there on" xp

never voted for any of these songs iirc but totally cd've voted for abt 80%

run from 31 to 24 is sick

this one seems so 2008 to me, but I love it so much. xps

^

People understand that Romeo & Juliet ends badly, right?

it ends badly for taylor too, if you hear "white horse" as the logical "love story part 2."

Though I guess now that I think about I actually got into Taylor too late to vote for her in last year's poll.

"Love Story" actually peaked on the Hot 100 in January 2009 and was still in the top 20 as late as May.

― Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Friday, January 29, 2010 7:05 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you could probably say the same for "Just Dance" but nobody voted for it

Oh! Them British and their irony.

Great list so far btw.

so...

9x Outta 10
Empire State of Mind
Hyph Mngo
You Belong With Me
Zero
Stillness Is the Move
My Girls
1901
Lisztomania
Bad Romance

Heads Will Roll?
Loba/She Wolf?
Fifteen?
Hungry For the Power?
Baby Can't Stop?
Pretty Wings?
Daniel?
Best I Ever Had?
Party in the USA?
Something by the XX?

My Girls wasn't nominated, right? does that matter?

Musically added it to the list on a technicality iirc

maybe "russian roulette"? trying to think of other actual big hits that might show up.

so like, since i'm the only one who is posting itt that voted for girls, does that mean that a bunch of lurking indie fans are pumping up the results and we're gonna have a 3-2-1 of "1901, "stillness is the move" and "my girls?

Man would I love for "Empire State of Mind" not to make it. And hoping against hope that the enthusiastic folks on the Future of the Left thread were as enthusiastic about voting for "Arming Eritrea" as I was.

I wonder if there will be a Lisztomania vs. 1901 vote split. I wildly prefer the former to the latter, and would be disappointed to not see it rank.

Man would I love for "Empire State of Mind" not to make it. And hoping against hope that the enthusiastic folks on the Future of the Left thread were as enthusiastic about voting for "Arming Eritrea" as I was.

― maciej recognizing trill, Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:33 AM (3 minutes ago)

dont know what thread that was, but it got a lot of points from me

that girls song shits the bed btw

i also voted girls v. highly fwiw

oh & ya i didnt vote for any GAPDY shit at all

except on anco & phoenix in mid-ish places on the albums poll

lmao @ this "girls" nonsense

screw roots rock! where's of montreal?

― tza nicholas ii (The Reverend), Friday, January 29, 2010 3:47 PM (4 hours ago)

alright what is this of montreal running joke you have going on here

Girls is the shit. Haters gonna hate.

well our opinions have a word in common, so that is a sort of agreement i suppose

it's a very classicist -- in the most concrete sense -- guitar pop song. i'm shocked that people are hulking out over it. i mean, there are gonna be a few phoenix songs coming up here.

OH GOOD

People understand that Romeo & Juliet ends badly, right?

― Parenthetical Grillz, Friday, January 29, 2010 7:13 PM (1 hour ago)

good essay by mike b@rthel imo

http://www.clapclap.org/2008/12/just-say-yes.html

j0rdan are you seriously saying there's no basic difference between the Girls song and the Phoenix singles? cause i mean

good essay by mike b@rthel imo

yeah and the comments to that make the same point about "white horse" being the next chapter. not that it's a concept album or anything, but she shows a lot more sides than just the infatuation. (but she does infatuation well.)

j0rdan are you seriously saying there's no basic difference between the Girls song and the Phoenix singles? cause i mean

― as genuine a white mainstream talent as you are going to get (some dude), Friday, January 29, 2010 8:06 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

well of course there is -- but not that much of a difference, no -- certainly not from the standpoint of people who are voting for fever ray/dubstep/10 min house tracks

Rev- I was thinking Soldier of Love would make it. And I'm sure there's one more from The-Dream. Fancy? RichGirl in the top 20? I'd be surprised.

I hope "White Horse" makes it.

Girls rips off Mote by SY, writes terribly bland lyrics (that you have to pay attention to because-), the music is really bland, and they're selling it because they have this perfect accessible-to-hipster-masses formula. The songs are derivative of obvious hip indie forefathers (one mentioned already), the songs are simple/basic pop which isn't hard to get over for many shallow trend followers (disclaimer: I'm not saying any specific fans of them here are that generalization, just trying to break down why they've blown up), and the guy is angsty and misunderstood (hipster: So am I!), has the heartbreaking indie-film-ready backstory (Bon Iver blew up with much help from his backstory), and the guy's voice is just alienating enough so hipsters can keep the band to themselves without worrying about the inviting pop songs attracting a casual crowd (Vampire Weekend's problem perhaps?).

I used to be in high school where you see [a boyfriend] every day. Then I was in a situation where it wasn't so easy for me, and I wrote this song because I could relate to the whole Romeo and Juliet thing. I was really inspired by that story. Except for the ending. I feel like they had such promise and they were so crazy for each other. And if that had just gone a little bit differently, it could have been the best love story ever told. And it is one of the best love stories ever told, but it's a tragedy. I thought, why can't you . . . make it a happy ending and put a key change in the song and turn it into a marriage proposal?

oh goodness

it's a very classicist -- in the most concrete sense -- guitar pop song. i'm shocked that people are hulking out over it. i mean, there are gonna be a few phoenix songs coming up here.

― Goon's Anatomy (J0rdan S.), Friday, January 29, 2010 5:40 PM Bookmark

Oh come the fuck on. I'm no Phoenix fan, but there's a huge difference in their bland but palatable sound and this godawful in every way bullshit. Saying "oh, but they are both guitar pop, that makes them the same" is reductive as fuck.

yeah for real. Phoenix make car commercial music, Girls make crystal meth PSA music.

ha!

well of course there is -- but not that much of a difference, no -- certainly not from the standpoint of people who are voting for fever ray/dubstep/10 min house tracks
I <3 Phoenix, Fever Ray, dubstep and 10 minute house tracks (and voted for tracks in all but one of those categories); the Girls song does nothing for me (neither does the Kid Cudi or either of the tracks with Gucci Mane).

Oh come the fuck on. I'm no Phoenix fan, but there's a huge difference in their bland but palatable sound and this godawful in every way bullshit. Saying "oh, but they are both guitar pop, that makes them the same" is reductive as fuck.

― zvincter (The Reverend), Friday, January 29, 2010 8:53 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark

explain to me how phoenix is bland and palatable but girls are godawful in every way

for one, the phoenix dude can sing. for another, phoenix doesn't sound like it was recorded in a hallway with tin walls.

That distinction is left up to taste, but even the most tonedeaf music fan could tell the difference between them.

(also, Rev is right.)

well i should clarify

certainly there are a large number of differences once you get into the girls album trax and other singles, but "lust for life" is pretty much a phoenix song if they were born in california instead of france

both are peppy guitar rock with mopey sentiments -- & the girls dude is a way better singer anyway

i mean, "1901" vs "lust for life" -- these don't appeal to the same listeners? and they don't appeal to the same preferences in those listeners? i think they do

Yeah, I guess the "G" in GAPDY could just as easily stand for Girls. :)

They might very well appeal to the same listeners, but I'd still argue that Phoenix has a very unique and identifiable sound in the context of the present "modern rock" landscape. Girls, on the other hand, distill the sound of a thousand lo-fi garage bands/labels down into something that just happens to have caught on because it came at the right moment with the right PR push. I understand that people might like the Girls album/singles on their own merits, but I also think people who like it probably aren't digging very deep.

well, in the context of modern rock, both are identifiable & unique. it's not like phoenix isn't distilling lessons taught by "12:51"

i love both bands -- i was just surprised that there was such a visceral negative reaction to them considering that, for instance, yyys + phx + dirty projectors are all loved to well liked on ilx, and pazz and jop 09 has taught us that those three bands certainly share a fanbase with girls. now, they do with grizzly bear as well, and that band is pretty much despised on ilm, so i'm not saying that GAPDY + girls are a total package deal, just that i expected reactions to "lust for life" to be more towards the phx end of the spectrum than the GB end of the spectrum