look for yourself!
http://www.thenortonsrestaurant.com/Dinner%20Menu.htm
looks good!
― Dr. Goon Medicine Woman (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 28 January 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link
"I don't care what you say, I don't care what you're drinking today"
http://www.thenortonsrestaurant.com/2006-03-31_Nortons_-_4.jpg
― velko, Thursday, 28 January 2010 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Wish it was a theme restaurant. "I'll have the pork chops with Candy Apple Gravy and a New Beer Rising, please."
― what of the fuck you talkie bout (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Is that a Suicide Commandos record on the wall behind the bar?
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Yep, right below The Suburbs "In Combo."
― Such A Hilbily (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link
The apostrophe is misplaced on "The Norton's" logo.
― Such A Hilbily (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 28 January 2010 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Nobody who saw the band live would for a second doubt Greg's contribution. I've talked to all three over the past dozen years, and stopped reporting what they say about each other: Why enable this stuff?
― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 28 January 2010 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link
greg and the guy who just left the hold steady should tour together as "the mustachios"
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 28 January 2010 23:14 (fourteen years ago) link
So, you've been clean for a long time? [My addiction problems] were drawing to a close at the time Husker Du broke up. One of the things that made it possible for me to make those changes was removing that band and influence from my life.
[My addiction problems] were drawing to a close at the time Husker Du broke up. One of the things that made it possible for me to make those changes was removing that band and influence from my life.
love grant hart's music, but i'm skeptical of this claim to longstanding sobriety
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 28 January 2010 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay folks, here we go...
http://www.npr.org/2017/09/05/547854997/first-listen-husker-du-savage-young-du
Great story from M. Matos and a full preview listen of all three discs of the Numero box. Go nuts.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 12:56 (seven years ago) link
i feel bad for spot that every single review of these reissues will mention how bad he was at his job
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 14:04 (seven years ago) link
in a way i'm quite glad that the release of this was stalled until the first year of our lord trump, cos though they've never really been my go-to for social critique, the lyrics on the early stuff really resonate right now
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 14:30 (seven years ago) link
i mean like
why bother spending timereading up on thingseverybody's an authorityin a free land
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 14:31 (seven years ago) link
christ, yeah.
― I am a paying customer, who is very cordial and pleasant to talk to (stevie), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 15:06 (seven years ago) link
never really though about the sonic similarity between 'statues' and 'you can live at home' before, two quite atypical huskers songs, but also the first and last track they released
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 15:43 (seven years ago) link
today i watched a top of the pops story of 1984 thing on youtube and it reminded me that i played my "smalltown boy" 12-inch about....500 times that year. and then it occurred to me that the album i played the most in 1984 was probably zen arcade. and then it dawned on me how much these two things had in common.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 15:53 (seven years ago) link
the lyrics on the early stuff really resonate right nowi have always felt this way!! they have good political songs imo. turn on the news, divide and conquer, they're all great!!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 15:57 (seven years ago) link
xp that's a good spot scott!
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link
There's a certain purity of vision to early Huskers, as there is with much punk and hardcore, but it's really about setting the stage for the real story. Not sure it has much of a story to tell itself any more than, say, the Suicide Commandos boxed set did. As hyped as I am to get any Husker Du set, this seems like mostly archaeology/anthropology.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:03 (seven years ago) link
Though I dunno, Everything Falls Apart And More sounding pretty good right now ... I wonder how much a total newcomer would be into this set if they knew nothing of the later stuff (as unlikely as such a scenario might be)?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:07 (seven years ago) link
the Suicide Commandos boxed set
Wait, the what now?
― "Celebration" encourages the listener to celebrate good times. (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:33 (seven years ago) link
Anthology, sorry.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:34 (seven years ago) link
This thing:
https://img.discogs.com/sM-zQ05IwEDuwceUWvSHV_MJYa8=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-2825238-1486569612-4775.jpeg.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:36 (seven years ago) link
Oh, wait, is that a bootleg? Never mind.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:37 (seven years ago) link
track list looks like it includes the "Amusement" Record Store Day single Numero put out
http://www.numerogroup.com/products/hsker-d-amusement-3
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:40 (seven years ago) link
I hadn't seen that before, it's Make A Record plus their two singles. I was hoping for unreleased stuff. Listening to the first Huskers disc, some of the poppier demos sound like the Commandos to me. I saw them very early on, but don't recall ever hearing them sound like that live. xp
― "Celebration" encourages the listener to celebrate good times. (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:45 (seven years ago) link
Isn't Katzman putting out a brand new Suicide Commandos record?
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:46 (seven years ago) link
http://first-avenue.com/sites/default/files/images/events/timebomb_album.jpg
― "Celebration" encourages the listener to celebrate good times. (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:49 (seven years ago) link
It's fantastic!
― "Celebration" encourages the listener to celebrate good times. (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:50 (seven years ago) link
xp
https://www.discogs.com/The-Suicide-Commandos-Time-Bomb/master/1196599
― sleeve, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:51 (seven years ago) link
wonder how much a total newcomer would be into this set if they knew nothing of the later stuff (as unlikely as such a scenario might be)?
Not too hard to imagine someone in their teens/early twenties never having heard them before and being intrigued by either the post punk or hardcore angle. When was the last time husker du were reviewed in pitchfork for instance?
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:02 (seven years ago) link
Hmm, maybe? Does anyone in their teens/early 20s even listen to hardcore? Or any of the SST acts? I have no idea. I don't even know if anyone in their teens listens to Van Halen.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link
Does anyone in their teens/early 20s even listen to hardcore?
there's certainly hardcore kids around I don't know if they listen to old hard core or new bands tho.
black flag and misfits shirts never go away
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link
omg lol at young ppl listening to van haleni can see HD resonating WAY more with youth of today than van halen!!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link
my kid likes old stuff. he went and saw DRI this summer. he's 14.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:17 (seven years ago) link
the lack of sexist lyrical content alone make HD more current than the average punk/hc/heavy/loud band from the '80s
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link
i didn't realize it at the time but that was a huge part of their appeal for me as a young person
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link
re: new generations getting into Hüsker Dü - yes, yes, yes! it is possible & needs to happen! i said this in the other thread, but I heard Flip Your Wig for the first time when I was 19, and I couldn't believe how great it was & how the fuck I had missed out on hearing it a decade after I became a Nirvana & Green Day superfan. "Makes No Sense At All" is the gateway for young teenagers and pre-teens imo. I'm happy this is coming out - anything HD related that's new is good, and I adore Everything Falls Apart - but as NickB mentioned, HD is consistently overlooked & forgotten by publications that are responsible for exposing tons of young kids to awesome old shit. there'd be no reason to do a retrospective review of the SST records because the digital/CD versions sound like absolute fucking shit. HD is one of the only bands where the difference between the digital & the vinyl is incredibly stark.
re: resonance of the primitive political lyrics - i completely agree, i listen to "In a Free Land" and "Everything Falls Apart" whenever I'm feeling especially hopeless or forlorn. this one sticks with me:
GOT NOTHING TO DOGOT NOTHING TO SAYEVERYTHING IS SO FUCKED UPI GUESS WE LIKE IT THAT WAYEVERYTHING FALLS APART
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link
totallyi also enjoyed reading Things Fall Apart knowing this song
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:30 (seven years ago) link
although i think different sounds resonate with different young people, there is a lot to like in HD that they won't find in a lot of HD's contemporaries
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:31 (seven years ago) link
definitely. i could never get into Black Flag, Big Black, even The Replacements. it's all so dull, black & white sounding to me. rudimentary songwriting, playing, and guitar sounds. Mould is just a monster as a player: his Frankenstein amp & effects setup is just insane, & his tendency to write entire songs in the first position on the guitar, making his massive setup sound even bigger thru the use of drone notes. it's that swirling, silver, electric metallic sound that can't be tamed. and that's just the guitar. lyrically he was so much more nuanced and interesting than his SST contemporaries.
i have to re-read Things Fall Apart - read it in 8th grade & remember almost none of it.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:40 (seven years ago) link
I pre-ordered but it looks like the DL links are not yet working:
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― sleeve, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 19:01 (seven years ago) link
Bob and esp Grant are, uh, kinda smokin' in that pic w/ Matos' piece.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 19:06 (seven years ago) link
grant was a super cutie
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 19:25 (seven years ago) link
well I think their dissolute touring lifestyle took an obvious toll mid- to late HuDu.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 19:58 (seven years ago) link
Similar to The Smiths, lack of communication & lack of management/guidance did them in without much time to reflect. It's just such a shame. I often think about Mould's quote at the end of the HD chapter in Azerrad's Our Band Could Be Your Life: "We could've done so much more."
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link
For anyone who hasn't read it yet, the bit on this page about the cover of Metal Circus is pretty interesting and i feel like a big dummy for not noticing any of that stuff before:
http://www.numerogroup.com/products/hsker-du-extra-circus
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 22:12 (seven years ago) link
colored vinyl edition already sold out, it appears
― sleeve, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 22:22 (seven years ago) link
http://www.thirdav.com/hd_images/msp_sites/milton_bldg.html
― pplains, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 00:04 (seven years ago) link
Wonder if Spot is still a fixture in Austin, and if he and Bob ever ran into each other when Bob lived there.
― When I Get To The Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 02:35 (seven years ago) link