That one heartthrob singer dude put out a solo album a year or two ago under some funky pseudoname, didn't he?
Did anyone actually buy it?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 28 January 2010 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Last year. Friend of mine worked on it, says he was a nice guy.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 January 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Sometimes nice people do not make nice music for ears (see: tons of indie-pop bands).
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 28 January 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link
dude was never a heartthrob!
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Thursday, 28 January 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Haven't listened tp Thunder Up in a long time - tremendously great for an album that even Sound fans forget about.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 11 February 2010 02:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I just listened to that today and thought the same thing. Every one of their albums feels like the best thing they've ever done, including the live one. I'm not sure I can even rank them. God, the conviction of Adrian's lyrics, the brilliant guitar work, the mood-setting (and unsettling) synths... I can't put into words how much this music has meant to me.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 11 February 2010 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Just listened to Propaganda the other day after a long period away from The Sound. Great record - funny how lots of it was discarded before Jepoardy. I like the stripped down sound better without the keyboard wash in retrospect.
Ranking: Propaganda>Jeopardy>All Fall Down>Lion's Mouth>BBC>Hothouse live>Thunder Up>>>>>Heads and Heart>>>>Shock Of Daylight.
I must get out my vinyl of Jeopardy/AFD/Lion/Hothouse some day soon!
― Dr.C, Thursday, 11 February 2010 11:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Sadface at the general lack of enthusiasm for Shock of Daylight, I still love that thing. 'Golden Soldiers' and 'Longest Days' are awesome songs!
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, 11 February 2010 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey, there's been lots of great stuff uploaded to YouTube since I last looked...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cDRLBWQ7ks
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, 11 February 2010 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link
...dries eyes, clears throat...
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, 11 February 2010 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdczCmH9oGg
Wow!
― Dr.C, Thursday, 11 February 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, the guitar break on that is savage!
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, 11 February 2010 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Propaganda>Jeopardy>All Fall Down>Lion's Mouth>BBC>Hothouse live>Thunder Up>>>>>Heads and Heart>>>>Shock Of Daylight.
Ok, so you clearly prefer the punkier stuff, which I agree is fantastic. But "Heads And Hearts" and "Shock Of Daylight" are INSANELY great as well. "Counting The Days" is a love song to end all love songs, "One Thousand Reasons" has this ambiance and texture unlike anything else, "Winter" will leave you as cold as the title, "World As It Is" has this crazy rhythm section - and of course Adrian's lyrics were in top form at this point:"Too much daylight leads to a nightlife and the fear of another day / That's going to last four or five years""Always kept caution close at hand / Never threw it to the wind""Opposites attracting / With the magnets in their eyes""I've arrived at the point somewhere in between / The person that I wanted to be and the person I've been"
His music just connects someplace deep within me, always has and I expect it always will, despite life's changing circumstances, The Sound helped me take small comfort in knowing someone else felt the same - and their undercurrent of hope has always buoyed my spirits.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 11 February 2010 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost - damn, that vid... Adrian's face, he's clearly singing words that are deeply personal and still applicable to himself. "Comfort and complacency, they hurt me!" Yeah, I know how that feels.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 11 February 2010 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost Yes, I do. They were always great, but I felt they mellowed a bit too much for me later on. I prefer the later stuff in live form really. I have an Outsiders album that is as stunning as Propaganda. If ONLY someone would release the full Outsiders work!
― Dr.C, Thursday, 11 February 2010 15:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Been thinking about things that make me upset with music . . .
Why the fuck didn't someone (not on ILM, I know you guys have sense but I just joined) but y'know a good friend, a watchful parent, SOMEBODY!, why did no one ever have the common decency to alert me to The Sound before all their LP's became so horribly impossible to get at a reasonable price?
― AnotherDeadHero, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes, a guardian musical angel would be a nice thing to have. But even if you're late to the game, in this modern world there are folks who can hook you up if the system fails you.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link
I hadn't listened to In The Hothouse in a long time (usually go to the furious BBC Sessions) and had forgotten what a tremendous unstoppably powerful slow burn it is. "Sense Of Purpose -> Missiles" 1-2 TKO
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 06:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Somebody MUST reissue the whole of the Outsiders work. Renescent? Dan Selzer?
― Dr.C, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 10:41 (thirteen years ago) link
YES. And soon.
― the morals of a tomcat and the manners of a wolf (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Massively, massively amazing band. I discovered them about ten years ago and still play them regularly. I was recently fortunate enough to stumble upon beautiful-condition original pressings of From the Lion's Mouth, All Fall Down, and Heads and Hearts, all at the same place.
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 25 May 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Somebody MUST reissue the whole of the Outsiders work. Renescent?
Renascent is no longer active, is it?
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, according to their site, House Of Love and Woodentops were the last reissues they did in 2007. Bummer.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 26 May 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link
There's also this:
http://www.occultation.co.uk
I know them because they're doing the Distractions CD that was one of the first reissues I tried to do. They have Wild Swans, so maybe they're somehow related to Renescent
I currently have my hands full with 6 LP/Digital releases, starting with Disco Zombies and Happy Refugees.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh look, the first two albums are finally getting another reissue.
I wonder if there's any sound improvement over the Renascent reissues?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:03 (twelve years ago) link
Did you think there was anything wrong with the Renascent remasters?
― Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 8 January 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
oh that's excellent news, for some reason i missed the renascent ones
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 8 January 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
xp Not really, though word is they were remastered from vinyl and if the original masters were found it might be an improvement.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
Dr. C's wish has been fulfilled - the two Outsiders albums have been reissued on CD by Cherry Red!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
They included the One to Infinity EP, too, thank god!
― shabba lambides (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 05:56 (twelve years ago) link
Classic, of course! One can't help but listen to a song like, for example, 'Skeletons' and marvel at the fact that this band didn't become huge.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 December 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
these guys are great. totally killed jeopardy and lion's mouth in college, think it's been enough time to rediscover
― Spectrum, Sunday, 2 December 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link
There's nothing more for me to say than what I've already posted in this thread. Adrian's body of work needs an anthology, covering all his main avenues and side streets, which just might reintroduce him to the world.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 2 December 2012 04:38 (eleven years ago) link
I hadn't realised that 'Thunder Up' was on eMusic until I saw the mention up thread last night, hearing it for the first time now.
"Total Recall" is incredible.
― michaellambert, Sunday, 2 December 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctIaWNezydg
^ Love this take of Winning, they were on fire here.
― a la recherche du tempbans perdu (NickB), Sunday, 20 January 2013 00:17 (eleven years ago) link
That from Utrecht, 1982, No Nukes festival, one of the 5 live albums released by Renascent. Fantastic stuff.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 20 January 2013 01:58 (eleven years ago) link
Aw man, that's a great rendition. Just seen what the original poster wrote about it here:
I suspect I'd probably think Winning was a lot nicer if the 'I'm gonna make it after all!' sentiment wasn't offet by the 'Hang on a minute, this guy jumped in front of a train three years ago!' realisation
― Ferg (Ferg), Tuesday, March 18, 2003 8:08 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and I totally agree. Knowing that Borland would commit suicide in the most horrific way turns the way I feel about this song completely on its head. On its surface, it's a song about getting on top of a battle with depression and bad circumstances, but after knowing that Adrian killed himself and HOW he killed himself, the song feels so much more desperate. Like he wants to be "winning", rather than he is "winning". The song doesn't console me and make me feel like I can overcome obstacles in life; on the contrary, it makes me feel incredibly sad. The guy who wanted to win, more than anything in the fucking universe, sadly didn't. It's upsetting.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Sunday, 20 January 2013 02:14 (eleven years ago) link
That's one perspective, agreed. And every April I shed a tear for the poor bastard whose music will live with me forever.
BUT... For a time, he WAS winning his personal battles, and in some places he was winning the hearts and minds of fans.
The fact that his end was so dark doesn't diminish the power of the song, and it still inspires me.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 20 January 2013 02:30 (eleven years ago) link
I think of the Sound when I listen to Soror Dolorosa.
― glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 20 January 2013 03:23 (eleven years ago) link
Lovely news here -- a new Sound box set covering the first few years. Mostly replicating the various Renascent reissues on first blush but even so, nice to see this happening:
http://www.redsunrecords.com/the-sound-boxset-2014-reissue
DISC ONE - JEOPARDYI Can’t Escape MyselfHeartlandHour Of NeedWords Fail MeMissilesHeydayJeopardyNight Versus DayResistanceUnwritten LawDesirePhysical World (Physical World EP)Brute Force (B-Side Of ‘Heyday’ Single)Heartland (Live Instinct EP)Brute Force (Live Instinct EP)Jeopardy (Live Instinct EP)Coldbeat (Live Instinct EP)Heartland (BBC Session October 1980)Unwritten Law (BBC Session October 1980)Jeopardy (BBC Session October 1980)I Can’t Escape Myself (BBC Session October 1980)DISC TWO - FROM THE LION’S MOUTHWinningSense Of PurposeContact The FactSkeletonsJudgementFatal FlawPossessionThe FireSilent AirNew Dark AgePoint Of No Return (Single B-side)Hot House (Single B-side)Coldbeat (Single B-side)New Dark Age (Live)Fatal Flaw (BBC Session November 1981)Skeletons (BBC Session November 1981)Hothouse (BBC Session November 1981)New Dark Age (BBC Session November 1981)DISC THREE - ALL FALL DOWNAll Fall DownParty Of The MindMonumentIn SuspenseWhere The Love IsSong And DanceCalling The New TuneRed PaintGlass And SmokeWe Could Go FarThe One And A Half Minute Song (All Fall Down Sessions)Sorry (All Fall Down Sessions)As Feeling Dies (All Fall Down Sessions)We Could Go Far (unreleased original version)Plenty (This Cover Keeps Reality Unreal EP)‘Neath Dancing Waves (This Cover Keeps Reality Unreal EP)Amber (This Cover Keeps Reality Unreal EP)Scapegoat In A Country Churchyard (This Cover Keeps Reality Unreal EP)DISC FOUR - BBC LIVE IN CONCERTOriginally broadcast 21st November 1981BBC Intro - Pete DrummondUnwritten LawSkeletonsFatal FlawWinningSense Of PurposeHeartlandNew Dark AgeOriginally broadcast 15th June 1985BBC Intro - Pete Drummond + Intro musicGolden SoldiersUnder YouTotal RecallBurning Part Of MeWhirlpoolMissiles* releasedate 14th April 2014
I Can’t Escape MyselfHeartlandHour Of NeedWords Fail MeMissilesHeydayJeopardyNight Versus DayResistanceUnwritten LawDesirePhysical World (Physical World EP)Brute Force (B-Side Of ‘Heyday’ Single)Heartland (Live Instinct EP)Brute Force (Live Instinct EP)Jeopardy (Live Instinct EP)Coldbeat (Live Instinct EP)Heartland (BBC Session October 1980)Unwritten Law (BBC Session October 1980)Jeopardy (BBC Session October 1980)I Can’t Escape Myself (BBC Session October 1980)DISC TWO - FROM THE LION’S MOUTH
WinningSense Of PurposeContact The FactSkeletonsJudgementFatal FlawPossessionThe FireSilent AirNew Dark AgePoint Of No Return (Single B-side)Hot House (Single B-side)Coldbeat (Single B-side)New Dark Age (Live)Fatal Flaw (BBC Session November 1981)Skeletons (BBC Session November 1981)Hothouse (BBC Session November 1981)New Dark Age (BBC Session November 1981)
DISC THREE - ALL FALL DOWN
All Fall DownParty Of The MindMonumentIn SuspenseWhere The Love IsSong And DanceCalling The New TuneRed PaintGlass And SmokeWe Could Go FarThe One And A Half Minute Song (All Fall Down Sessions)Sorry (All Fall Down Sessions)As Feeling Dies (All Fall Down Sessions)We Could Go Far (unreleased original version)Plenty (This Cover Keeps Reality Unreal EP)‘Neath Dancing Waves (This Cover Keeps Reality Unreal EP)Amber (This Cover Keeps Reality Unreal EP)Scapegoat In A Country Churchyard (This Cover Keeps Reality Unreal EP)
DISC FOUR - BBC LIVE IN CONCERT
Originally broadcast 21st November 1981BBC Intro - Pete DrummondUnwritten LawSkeletonsFatal FlawWinningSense Of PurposeHeartlandNew Dark AgeOriginally broadcast 15th June 1985BBC Intro - Pete Drummond + Intro musicGolden SoldiersUnder YouTotal RecallBurning Part Of MeWhirlpoolMissiles* releasedate 14th April 2014
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link
That's a lot of repeated stuff, but at least a disc's worth of stuff I don't have/never heard.
― Austin, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 18:32 (ten years ago) link
My copy arrived today, sounds great on first listen, will A/B with Renascent copies.
Good interview with Bi Marshall here:http://awww.pennyblackmusic.co.uk/MagSitePages/Article.aspx?id=7387
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 8 May 2014 02:25 (ten years ago) link
http://blog.anymeeting.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/charlie-sheen-winning.png
The Sound - Winninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWaN5aUbSLUmy favorite The Sound song, followed by 2.Unwritten Law 3.I Can't Escape Myself 4.Missiles (the Jeopardy version of all three songs.) http://grooveshark.com/#!/album/Jeopardy/4042587
― TabForaCause.com, Thursday, 8 May 2014 06:35 (ten years ago) link
The new box definitely adds something to the mix, more depth, not as flat as the Renascent CDs. And no extra bass or anything like that.
I still think the "All Fall Down" outtakes are at the wrong speed despite claims that's what Adrian intended.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 10 May 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link
Still waiting for mine. Where are you in the world, Gerald?
Every review that I've seen of the new set goes out of its way to mention how much of an improvement the mastering is over the Renascent editions (which I thought were not bad by any means).
― austinato (Austin), Saturday, 10 May 2014 22:11 (ten years ago) link
I'm in Boston, ordered from AmazonUK and it took just over a week.
I must say, I hadn't listened to the studio versions in a few years as the live takes are generally much fiercer.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 11 May 2014 02:02 (ten years ago) link
Got mine today!
Couldn't stand it, so I skipped straight to All Fall Down. I noticed right away what you mean with "more depth." 'Glass and Smoke' actually has dynamics now!
Thought the Renascent editions would be hard to top, but somehow they did it.
― austinato (Austin), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:00 (ten years ago) link
Okay, next and presumably last Sound box set now up for preorder:
http://www.redsunrecords.com/the-sound-shock-of-daylight-heads-hearts-in-the-hothouse-thunder-up-propaganda-5-cd-set
DISC ONE - Shock Of DaylightGolden SoldiersLongest DaysCounting The DaysWinterNew Way Of LifeDreams Then PlansBONUS - Restless Songs and Golden Soldiers - The Lost Demo RecordingsGolden Soldiers (demo)A New Way Of Life (demo)Counting The Days (demo)Mining For Heart (demo)Oiled (demo)Steel Your Air (demo)Fall Of Europe (demo)Love Is Not A Ghost (demo)Blood And Poison (demo)Whirlpool (demo)DISC TWO - Heads And HeartsWhirpoolTotal RecallUnder YouBurning Part Of MeLove Is Not A GhostWildest DreamsOne Thousand ReasonsRestless TimeMining For HeartWorld As It IsTemperature DropBONUS - B-Sides & RareBlood And PoisonSteel Your AirOiledShimmerDISC THREE - In The Hot House (Live)WinningUnder YouTotal RecallSkeletonsProve Me WrongWildest DreamsBurning Part Of MeHeartlandHothouseJudgementCounting The DaysRed PaintSilent AirSense Of PurposeMissilesDISC FOUR - Thunder Up Acceleration GroupHand Of LoveBarria AltaKineticIron YearsProve Me WrongShot Up And Shut DownWeb Of Wicked WaysI Give You PainHand Of LoveYou've Got A WayBONUS - B-SidesIron Years (Remix)I Give You Pain (Live)Fall Of EuropeSuch A Difference To MeDISC FIVE - PropagandaNo SalvationDeep BreathCost Of LivingQuarter Past TwoNight Vs. DayPhysical WorldStatikMusic BusinessPropagandaWords Fail MeOne More EscapeMissiles
Golden SoldiersLongest DaysCounting The DaysWinterNew Way Of LifeDreams Then PlansBONUS - Restless Songs and Golden Soldiers - The Lost Demo RecordingsGolden Soldiers (demo)A New Way Of Life (demo)Counting The Days (demo)Mining For Heart (demo)Oiled (demo)Steel Your Air (demo)Fall Of Europe (demo)Love Is Not A Ghost (demo)Blood And Poison (demo)Whirlpool (demo)DISC TWO - Heads And Hearts
WhirpoolTotal RecallUnder YouBurning Part Of MeLove Is Not A GhostWildest DreamsOne Thousand ReasonsRestless TimeMining For HeartWorld As It IsTemperature DropBONUS - B-Sides & RareBlood And PoisonSteel Your AirOiledShimmerDISC THREE - In The Hot House (Live)
WinningUnder YouTotal RecallSkeletonsProve Me WrongWildest DreamsBurning Part Of MeHeartlandHothouseJudgementCounting The DaysRed PaintSilent AirSense Of PurposeMissilesDISC FOUR - Thunder Up
Acceleration GroupHand Of LoveBarria AltaKineticIron YearsProve Me WrongShot Up And Shut DownWeb Of Wicked WaysI Give You PainHand Of LoveYou've Got A WayBONUS - B-SidesIron Years (Remix)I Give You Pain (Live)Fall Of EuropeSuch A Difference To MeDISC FIVE - Propaganda
No SalvationDeep BreathCost Of LivingQuarter Past TwoNight Vs. DayPhysical WorldStatikMusic BusinessPropagandaWords Fail MeOne More EscapeMissiles
Most interested in those _Shock of Daylight_ era demos.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 November 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link
I love Shock of Daylight, kind of for sentimental reasons (first record of theirs I bought), but mostly cos that first side is knockout stuff imo. That sublime guitar part in Longest Days just melts me. Have heard it said that Terry Bickers was a big fan of Borland, and really it's not that far from Longest Days to Love In A Car - both borne out of lovely tremulous guitar lines; songs that make me catch my breath, not wanting the spell to be broken.
Apart from that and the live album, I don't actually know any of the other stuff on that box. Any good?
― john wahey (NickB), Monday, 10 November 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
Just in case anyone doesn't know it already...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FhikwpRR58
― john wahey (NickB), Monday, 10 November 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link