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Latebloomer— Yeah, but I have that reaction (or a similar one) to everyone. When Simon Reynolds is right on about some random synthpop, I nod and say "This guy has a lot going for him." When he's wanking about some bullshit, I just think "Sure, everything sounds great on E, moron." The only place where I generally feel revulsion even when I agree is Pitchfork, because it bothers the shit out of my inner copy editing Nazi ("That review could have been seven words and still made the same point"). But that's a clichéd complaint about Pfork by now anyway, so I just don't bother.

― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:43 (twenty years ago)

When he's wanking about some bullshit, I just think "Sure, everything sounds great on E, moron."

I think this mindless statement says more about YOU and your lack of critical judgment than it does about your "criticism" of other critics on this thread.

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:46 (twenty years ago)

touchy, touchy

― timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Geeta: It's OK. Simon Reynolds will recover from my absent-minded dismissal of his taste when I disagree with him. Or are you one of those who still believes everything played at a rave was great music?

― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:05 (twenty years ago)

dude, i've been posting to ILM for six years, and i only recently started posting again after a long absence. now i realize why people kept telling me this place was going down the tubes. five years ago, if you posted something on ILM that showed evidence that you weren't thinking, you would get called on it--someone would question you about your pat, wrongheaded assumptions, and challenge you to think harder. now people here just let things slide. i say it's time to go back to the old way of doing things.

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:17 (twenty years ago)

rock is back geeta

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:25 (twenty years ago)

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/3416/easyriderc100346269jm.jpg

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:27 (twenty years ago)

"people"

― timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:33 (twenty years ago)

"things"

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:34 (twenty years ago)

i say we all don capes and masks and go kick some ass!

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:36 (twenty years ago)

I'd do that but I post under my real name

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:37 (twenty years ago)

I mean, that's sort of what posting here is like, right? anon names and all

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Arf, Geeta, I think close study of the achives might even reveal an actual specific day where everyone was all like "fuck it, where do I even begin" and then we all went out for ice cream instead.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:41 (twenty years ago)

kick some gluteus max

― latebloomer: band to the planet mars (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:42 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, well where's MY fucking ice cream?

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:43 (twenty years ago)

why are we here?
because we're here

― timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:43 (twenty years ago)

I want spumoni!

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:44 (twenty years ago)

Jonathan Richman to thread!

― The Day The World Turned Dayglo Redd (Ken L), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:45 (twenty years ago)

TS: Dove Bars vs. Klondike Bars

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:49 (twenty years ago)

The word "spumoni" still always sounds to me like something Dan Savage should be writing about.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:49 (twenty years ago)

"a combination of spooning and moaning"

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:54 (twenty years ago)

the older i get, the more i appreciate christgau. albums i loved that he dissed when i was a young buck, i now realize he was right about more often than not. he just has a relentless nose for bullshit.

and his nose doesn't fail him w/r/t aerial

― old man, Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:58 (twenty years ago)

Spumoni [Naples, 14th Century]
"Pistachios"; "Whipped Cream" http://robertchristgau.com/icon/s2.gif

― A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)

some of you would be wise to lay off the ice cream/spumoni

― timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)

A|ex P@reene I kiss u

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:03 (twenty years ago)

Spumoni in the middle, in the middle
(Where she at?)

― The Day The World Turned Dayglo Redd (Ken L), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:03 (twenty years ago)

some of you would be wise to lay off the ice cream/spumoni

some of you would be wise to lay off posting to ILM entirely, as you can't seem to do anything besides post caustic, lame one-liners

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:05 (twenty years ago)

I'm as God made me, geeta.

― The Day The World Turned Dayglo Redd (Ken L), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:07 (twenty years ago)

and ha ha nabisco yeah i'm already almost ready to throw in the towel! i'm off to go get coffee.

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:07 (twenty years ago)

geeta remember jess' rule: "why am i arguing with someone named 'timmy tannin' over the internet!?"

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:09 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure it's irrelevant, but I still roffle in my mind at whoever said that thing about being able to recognize an old thread by the presence of teh pinefox and AllyZ going on about Richie Manic. I guess I arrived too late for the days of the Organic Society but hey- who doesn't?

― The Day The World Turned Dayglo Redd (Ken L), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:13 (twenty years ago)

hahaha sterl you're right. i'm going to go right back to what i was doing before i saw this thread--popping e's and listening to the crazy rave music.

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:15 (twenty years ago)

Asserting old-timer status on message board: Classic!

And ol' Christgau still gets suckered just as often as the rest of us. See his constant love for SK.

― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:17 (twenty years ago)

geeta, I think I ate lunch somewhere a few weeks ago, maybe in Brooklyn, that had your Time Out review in the window. Is this possible? Is that in your bailiwick?

― The Day The World Turned Dayglo Redd (Ken L), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:30 (twenty years ago)

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:38 (twenty years ago)

2002 seems so long ago.

― Zwan (miccio), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:39 (twenty years ago)

yo ken l--i don't write for time out! i used to review bars for the village voice, though--was it a bar? and i used to write about shopping for new york magazine's website, if it happened to be a shop.

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:41 (twenty years ago)

timmy tannin ain't a name, it's an ACTION, brah!

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:44 (twenty years ago)

those action brahs are always getting into all kinds of shenanagins

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:45 (twenty years ago)

action brah? like this?

http://froogle.google.com/froogle_image?q=http://rockpopgallery.easystorecreator.com/images/images_29160/diamondcomics/cfdckcaf1.jpg&size=2&dhm=651b981&hl=en

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:48 (twenty years ago)

No, that's a modern hero of inaction.

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:50 (twenty years ago)

used to write about shopping for new york magazine
Oh yeah, thanks, that sounds right. I think it was some shop with something for Mrs. L, maybe the knitting place on Sullivan Street.

ew
I'll choose to ignore that.

― The Day The World Turned Dayglo Redd (Ken L), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

The Paranoid review is kind of understandable, really. Don't necessarily buy the view of Christgau as a lame hippie because he didn't happen to think that heavy metal was the greatest thing since SLICED BREADS.

A C- does seem a little overboard even if someone's going to take that view of the record, but you know, "Oh no, a critic is slightly hyperbolic" - happens a lot.

Anyway, I like Black Sabbath a lot in general - but I'm not viewing them from the vantagepoint of 1970 as a VETERAN OF TEH SIXTIES.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:06 (twenty years ago)

"Don't necessarily buy the view of Christgau as a lame hippie because he didn't happen to think that heavy metal was the greatest thing since SLICED BREADS."

sorry but heavy metal IS the greatest thing since sliced breads, bitch

― latebloomer: band to the planet mars (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:09 (twenty years ago)

ihttp://www.metalopolis.net/files/pictures/articlespics/ug_02.jpg

― latebloomer: band to the planet mars (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:10 (twenty years ago)

― latebloomer: band to the planet mars (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, lots of critics didn't like teh heavy metal back in the day, that's why xhuxk was such a groundbreaker. At some point Zeppelin was rehabilitated by Sabbath took a while longer. (I know there are some counterexamples, but please look in original RS Record Guide, the red one with the five-star album covers scattered throughout) In any case, he gave Band On The Run a similar grade.

― The Day The World Turned Dayglo Redd (Ken L), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:15 (twenty years ago)

Don't necessarily buy the view of Christgau as a lame hippie because he didn't happen to think that heavy metal was the greatest thing since SLICED BREADS.

That's not why Christgau's a hippie.

― Zwan (miccio), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:16 (twenty years ago)

Didn't we already have a lot of this discussion on your Xgau thread, miccio?

― The Day The World Turned Dayglo Redd (Ken L), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:17 (twenty years ago)

This thread is older.

― Zwan (miccio), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:19 (twenty years ago)

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