ARTHUR - the magazine

New York is the last stand for culture and the arts in America, the rest of it has devolved into a wasteland.

New York is the last stand for rich kids wearing retro Nikes.

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Can someone Blingee this please?

he does look pretty brooklyn in that picture. the difference being:

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i still want to move to ojai. but i keep reading articles about how everyone is moving there and its too expensive now. it keeps calling me though...

http://www.erugmakers.com/images/Ojai2.jpg

the guru table is in the gardens at barndall park, lol

i used to write on those tables, and once i hooked up on one.

Uh

"New York is the last stand for rich kids wearing retro Nikes."

yep

So the emergency fundraiser was moving money ;)

I know yr jokin, but seriously that isn't true!

anyway LA is horrible and he'll be much happier in NY

i still want to move to ojai. but i keep reading articles about how everyone is moving there and its too expensive now. it keeps calling me though...

dude, it was too expensive twenty years ago. beautiful, though. california real estate always has a $800,000 surcharge if you want to live in an area with no meth addicts.

yes, with all the cultured people

So the emergency fundraiser was moving money ;)

I know yr jokin, but seriously that isn't true!

total joke!

"dude, it was too expensive twenty years ago"

rich ex-hippies, right? oh well. i'll probably have to settle for western mass. i can pretend it's cali. lots of rich ex-hippies there too, but still affordable places to live. (maria will never let me leave this island though...)

"Culture in L.A. is in a race to the bottom, and all the smart and creative people there are [involved in] new ways to do social networking or figure out what YouTube video is going to get the most views. That isn’t culture, it’s pure pandering."

Oh dude, wait till you settle in to NY ...

I haven't really read arthur. I like a few of the acts they cover, and the shows they curate here are pretty good from time to time, but I seriously cannot believe how you can be more than 8 years old and think that an entire city can be summed up by your thoughts.

New York is the last stand for culture and the arts in America

LOL

but I seriously cannot believe how you can be more than 8 years old and think that an entire city can be summed up by your thoughts.

haha maybe you should check out the "most racist city in America" thread on ILE... to be fair he has lived in LA his entire life

totally wish dude the best of luck tho

cannot wait for do's and don'ts

lolol

having lived in both cities i am laughing my ass off at mr babcock

I love new york, and maybe it's changed since I used to hang there, but generally speaking it always struck me as the capital of what-important-thing-are-you-doing-and-what-can-you-do-for-me.

plus it's been a while since anything "important" happened there, at least in a concentrated fashion. there are good bands in ny but not more than in any number of other cities.

cannot wait for do's and don'ts

*tears*

(really though, good luck Arthur!)

plus it's been a while since anything "important" happened there, at least in a concentrated fashion

strictly speaking I don't think "important" things happen anywhere anymore, thanks to the massive decentralization of media distribution methods

Pasadena's great. I gave up my car a year ago and don't miss it. Being without an auto in soCal isn't for everyone, though. When I want out to Santa Barbara or someplace, I just do a rental. Plus, I kind of like that "important" things don't happen in Pasadena, unless you count the Rose Parade and Rose Bowl.

Friends come over a lot and we grill for them. And people come from back east two or three times a year because they want to get out of the Pennsy funk.

SoCal often still looks great if you, say, live in Allentown or Bethlehem.

Why's this dude all butthurt? :(

SoCal often still looks great if you, say, live in Allentown or Bethlehem.

Aw, I love Los Angeles, but, c'mon, don't knock the Lehigh Valley! It's beautiful as well!

taking sides: LA vs LV

after driving through the Bladerunner-ish polluted disaster area hellhole that is the Port of Los Angeles a couple years ago its difficult for me to avoid the conclusion that anywhere in America is better than LA

Oh STFU

your brother's bitterness is more entertaining

after driving through the (insert dirty industrial section) of (insert every city in the world) etc

if you visit chicago please avoid the southern shore of lake michigan, you might start to hate on the rest of the city

shakey, no offense, but your brother thinking that ny is cheaper than la is stupidity x infinity. i won't get into the other bs because dude is entitled to his opinions, however narrowminded.

$20,000 wasted on the best pizza america has to offer

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after driving through the (insert dirty industrial section) of (insert every city in the world) etc

yeah yeah, I've been around. Some places are worse than others.

i have never enjoyed arthur magazine-- i think b/c it has consistently dealt with things that i think about/care about lots, but always in a way that i find very detrimental...it has always struck me as being too much like going back and reading old sixties underground newspapers/books or whatever, and realizing how clueless and naive ppl were about occult stuff/"eastern" spirituality/whatever flakey flavor of the week (apple cider vinegar, i'm talking to you!)...and also being struck by how unaware ppl were of the submerged aggression behind their "peace, let's all just do some bong hits and listen to this shitty music" sentiments.

it has always struck me as being too much like going back and reading old sixties underground newspapers/books

well it is done pretty explicitly in that tradition. if you don't like that tradition, hey what can you do.

also apple cider vinegar rocks sorry but its true

for someone who spent his entire life in l.a. your brother sure doesn't understand it at all. then he acts like a spurned lover because the brentwood types didn't acknowledge him. i guess the respect he received from "poor artists" wasn't enough? i mean he says it's about money but it sounds like it's more about him not getting props from the right people. that rant = "every failed screenwriter ever"

well it is done pretty explicitly in that tradition. if you don't like that tradition, hey what can you do.

i guess i probably don't like that tradition, even though, goodness knows i am obsessed with the sixties and "the underground" in america...but in any case, that doesn't excuse arthur from espousing naive viewpoints about stuff (and i dunno, maybe i am complaining more about the opinions of the artists interviewed within its pages, as opposed to some overall editorial approach)

i should maybe add that i am speaking from the viewpoint of disaffected dude who felt alienated by both vice magazine culture and arthur magazine/"freak folk" culture of this decade, if i may set both publications up as some weird oppositional thing of sorts

i tried the ACV thing but i think i like kombucha better

if i may set both publications up as some weird oppositional thing of sorts

I think that's probably legit. personally I find Vice deeply alienating/irritating/funny when its making snarky fashion jokes but its rather obvious where my loyalties lie (even if I don't particularly care for Devendra or Joanna Newsom)

i was just in LA for E3 and anyway we were riding on a bus to the activision press conference and we drove by a store front in downtown that had "No Age Weirdo Rippers" painted above it what's up with that? it looked like it had been painted that way for awhile.

that's the smell

oh okay! damn i shoulda tried to go back there and see what was going down.

yeah, i like the "do's and don'ts" in VICE (i even bought the book!)

i'm indifferent to banhart's/newsom's music (admittedly, i guess i haven't listened enough to their stuff to give them a fair shake. oh well. life is short.)

i'm sure your brother is a great person. i just am disappointed by the magazine (and what i see as being some subculture that it tried to deliver ((to))).

but, thinking back, i remember enjoying reading an interview w/joanna newsom... and i am interested in erik davis' work, so...

the day they interview dale pendell, all will be right in my world.

but, yeah, jay took the steps to publish a magazine and distribute it for free, which is insanely admirable, and i am just some dude typing out shit here, so...

"after driving through the Bladerunner-ish polluted disaster area hellhole that is the Port of Los Angeles a couple years ago its difficult for me to avoid the conclusion that anywhere in America is better than LA"

Dude, I grew up outside Detroit. I live in LA now. If you think that the Port is the worst place in America, you have no idea what a significant chunk of the US has to offer in terms of Superfund hellholes.