― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 04:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 10:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 11:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 11:03 (twenty years ago) link
they are not as long as there's an element of 'smarts' to it - not necessarily irony. also if you apply these to other genres (rock, dance) you will surely then have a pop single anyway?
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 11:21 (twenty years ago) link
In a 500 page novel if the overblowness etc isn't there all the way through it could be tolerable. Same with a movie: certain awful scenes but its a two hour thing.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 11:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 11:55 (twenty years ago) link
I think there is space for grandiose but it is precisely bcz its all concentrated in a 3 minute pop single that it makes it 'bad' to me. Maybe if you played this in a disco it would be fine but I just don't understand how anyone could listen to this kind of thing at home.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:05 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 15:09 (twenty years ago) link
yes, 'we' are better than you.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 15:13 (twenty years ago) link
Hey, I didn't say that everything that's bloated and camp and manipulative is great. In this case, however, I just relish the it's a big, melodramatic wedding cake of a song. Is it entirely ridiculous? Of course, but it's crafted with so much loving care that I find it hard not to appreciate.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 15:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 15:22 (twenty years ago) link
They aren't. Not neccessarily. Not when done by the likes of Genesis or Yes, that is, in a tastefull and sophisticated fashion.
Hair metal ballads don't fit into that positive category though
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:41 (twenty years ago) link
This is an oxymoron.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:45 (twenty years ago) link
however,i was curious whether more people would be sympathetic to julio's arguement/reasons if we were talking about my heart will go on or something...
also,i was only a kid,but what did people think of this song when it was first released?
― robin (robin), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:25 (twenty years ago) link
― cis (cis), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:15 (twenty years ago) link
― cis (cis), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 30 October 2003 00:35 (twenty years ago) link
more classic clip on that video: the kid with no legs on the skateboard being chased by the rabid dog
― Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Thursday, 30 October 2003 00:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 30 October 2003 00:40 (twenty years ago) link
Oh, and to answer the thread question, unutterably classic. And I was listening to it last week at my mum and dad's.
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 30 October 2003 00:43 (twenty years ago) link
― David Potts, Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:23 (twenty years ago) link
Total classic.
― Sarah Pedal (call mr. lee), Thursday, 30 October 2003 03:13 (twenty years ago) link
Source?
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 30 October 2003 05:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 05:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 30 October 2003 09:17 (twenty years ago) link
This should be in the FAQ!!!
I figure the reason I can't stomach power ballads like this one is that they're embarassing, though I don't mean that as a pejorative. Bonnie Tyler sounds so exposed, so naked when she sings TEOTH that I feel embarassed for her when I listen to it. It's the same feeling I get when hanging out with singers who frequently burst into song in public. In one sense I envy them for being so free and unrestrained, but I also know I'm not like that. When I want ballads, I listen to singers who sound timid or beaten down but still composed enough to sing their song with their head held high (Billie Holliday, Nick Drake, Robert Johnson, etc).
― Dave M. (rotten03), Thursday, 30 October 2003 10:25 (twenty years ago) link
Look at how I originally spelled "artificially".
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― mister the guanoman (mister the guanoman), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:25 (seventeen years ago) link
Actually, come to think about it "Make Over" is pretty out there...
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link
W T F
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jimmy Mod is like a child who walks into the middle of a movie (The Famous Jimmy, Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link
Total Eclipse of the LawsuitHe was a retiring co-pilot. She was an aging 80's rocker flying first class. No one expected her multi-platinum hit to "fall apart" but when Air France flight attendants awoke Bonnie Tyler and asked her to sing "Total Eclipse of the Heart" in honor of a pilot making his final flight, passengers did more than just "turn around", they up and sued the airline. According to reports, a group of disgruntled travelers, believed to be Belgian, first lodged a complaint claiming they were traumatized by the experience, and are now alleging in a lawsuit, that Tyler's 1983 hit incited a celebration so raucous they feared for their safety. Good thing she didn't try "Holding Out For a Hero" or things might have really turned ugly.
By Emil Steiner | September 6, 2006; 2:29 PM ET
― chaki (chaki), Thursday, 5 October 2006 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link
You're a sick man. I see your broader point about JS though. As with Bat Out of Hell, I played the hell out of it for a while after buying it (the 7" in this case) but I don't know if I'll ever put it on again. Classic with a shelf life?
― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't understand why anyone in their right mind would like this song now, despite the fact that I loved it when it came out.
― Bimble, Friday, 23 May 2008 10:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Thank fuck I'm not in my right mind.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 23 May 2008 10:48 (sixteen years ago) link