if you want to hear the band instead of the orchestra
― kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link
does andy samberg guest on this?
― plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link
I only said that equating the orchestra to marionettes DOES assume intentions/functions that---like you said---aren't very clear to begin with and make the ANALOGY work less.
well, but I'd say short of some very clear recording decisions - stuff you'd hear at every pass - "orchestra" in itself codes with certain functions musically; it's not lazy or unkind to assume these functions as an aesthetic intent. it's not unfair to say than an orchestra's role in relation to a pop vocal sits within a certain grouping of aesthetic expectations (generally: support and counterpoint; one could go much, much deeper into this), and that unless those expectations are pretty clearly being refuted/interrogated, the absence of such functions is more likely to be a missing of the mark than a recontextualization/remimagining of the role of the orchestra.
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link
disc 2, track 1: I'm On a Horse (feat. T-Pain & Andy Samberg)
― kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost cool story, bro. but sorry, how does that contradict anything I said?
― Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I only said that equating the orchestra to marionettes DOES assume intentions/functions that---like you said---aren't very clear to begin with
right: I am saying that there are aesthetic intentions contained in the use of an orchestra that it's fair to infer, absent some telegraphic function (the main ones I can imagine would be unusual instrumentation or recording techniques - filters, distortion - that call attention to themselves & to what they're doing)
is that clearer?
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 00:58 (fourteen years ago) link
yes
― Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link
I wish l0u1s jagg3r were around to give a detailed play-by-play analysis of Have One On Me when it comes out
― won't you be my GAPDY / come and make it rain down on NME (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 02:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Well so for the record I like Ys a lot! And as far the whole "ornamental" and "distanced" thing I'm talking about with the orchestration ... I'm not saying that's inherently a bad thing; I'm sure someone could make a record that did that in a way I thought was great. But on this record it does strike me as kind of a drawback. Which is why I was suggesting that maybe lots of people felt that way, and maybe that's why there's a ton of love for the live shows and recordings with a smaller group -- because one thing the live presentation definitely did was cut away this distanced/ornamental quality I'm talking about.
So, yeah. It seems like a pointed aesthetic decision and one that has some cool things about it, but there are parts of that record where I'm not sure it's the best choice. (Part of it might just be a recording thing, where the soundstage Newsom's on and the one the orchestra's on aren't meshing quite right.)
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 07:52 (fourteen years ago) link
new joanna newsom music video leaked
― djembe jivin’ sidekick (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link
New material an improvement imo
― with a bad girl's enlightenment and a Buddha's passion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link
i dig the rapping
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link
can I just, as a public service to kshighway, suggest listening to Owen Pallett / Final Fantasy, if he has not already? depending on what precisely you like about Ys, you might really enjoy his new one. thank you for your attention.
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:52 (Yesterday) Bookmark
did we talk about that record on here yet? i want to talk about that record i think
― thomp, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Uh-oh:
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/01/joanna_newsom_three_times.html
Great news, fans of harps and indie rock: Indie-rock harpist Joanna Newsom is releasing a freaking triple album. It’s called Have One on Me and it’s out February 23 on Drag City. We’ve also gotten the first official song, “'81,” and it’s exactly as somber and pretty and overbearingly twee as you’d expect.
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Indie-rock harpist
― Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link
i meant it used the "t" word, but yeah.
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link
huh, there I was listening to it and thinking that she had excised the remotest remnant of t*** from her music.
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Until she stops singing there will always be the twee label applied to her. Whether you think it's a correct application is another thing.
I think her singing style is inherently twee.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link
hope Only Skin makes it to the Juno 2 soundtrack
― kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
:P
― Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link
This sentence should not exist.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
clap your hands if you believe
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/41/DragonslayerPoster.jpg/397px-DragonslayerPoster.jpgny mag says the new song is about dragonslayer
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/JunoFOX0802_468x396.jpg
― kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
ny mag says the new song is about dragonslayer
Well, love IS a mystery.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
i haven't heard it yet, but i'm fairly certain the song is about 1981
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Mr Que your obsession with Joanna is endearing btw
― Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Que, you looking forward to hearing it?
― kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe i've already heard it ;)
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link
single of the year imo
― kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link
so I was listening to the sydney opera house show and can't really listen to her sing "you makin' love" over and over without thinking about a naked + sweaty adam sandberg now
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link
i think its "andy samberg"
― max, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link
a naked and sweaty adam sandler
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
http://api.ning.com/files/uDK8StaExILcT*8RN0pzIXQffsUxCF4jjokRaMpcc1A_/adam_sandler.jpg
http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/andy-samberg-2006-mtv-movie-awards-arrivals-upRntu.jpg
― kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
hey so seriously, i mentioned it above, but I hope this gets the Moore Brothers (who contribute some guest vocals to this record) some much deserved hype! they are awesome.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
step one: cut a hole in the harp
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link
i lol'd
― kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh! I Always Get Those Two Mixed Up!
― the clones of tldr funkenstein (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
i always get boxes and harps messed up, too
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
must make for a fucked up xmas at yr house
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Mr. Que with his new gift:
http://aura.gaia.com/photos/31/304623/large/HarpGyre.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
"you got me a harp?""no your present is inside the harp"
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah if you've never tried to unwrap a harp, you've never lived
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb209/baltimoresun05/harp.jpg
― kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.thenibble.com/reviews/main/beer/images/harp-230.jpg
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.drawger.com/atomic/shows/harp%20box.jpg
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Blanchon-idlm2006.jpg
― kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link
did you know bill callahan is writing a nasty breakup album called sing! harpist
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link
rumor has it that bill callahan is the monkey, and joanna newsom is the bear
― max, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link
bill callahan is the bear in the bumper car
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link