meaning i don't nec. disagree w/ the notion that he raps better on college dropout on late reg.
i still like his "flow"/lyrics
― Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 2 September 2007 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link
Meh, he's an MC who makes me NOT want to listen to the songs. I feel like his flow got better on Grad but fuck if his lyrics still pull me out of the song.
"Just last year Chicago had over 600 caskets, Man, killing is wack-ass shit. Oh I forgot, except when niggas is rappin'. Do you know what it feels like when people is passin'?"
If you're gonna introduce this type of thematic shit in your lyrics, you can't put this up. YES YE, I'M SURE THOSE OTHER MCs DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE.
― Jamesy, Sunday, 2 September 2007 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link
i'll tie you to a chair and make you eat ur own defecation 8>
xpost
― luriqua, Sunday, 2 September 2007 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link
I can wait a week to hear something that isn't a clean version.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 2 September 2007 04:41 (seventeen years ago) link
no one has made the connection that drunk hot girls = sing swan song
― cutty, Sunday, 2 September 2007 05:18 (seventeen years ago) link
kurupt - stalkin >>>>>> pharcyde - hey you >>>> pete nice & daddy rich >>>> drunk hot girls
― and what, Sunday, 2 September 2007 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link
were those rip offs of sing swan song too?
― cutty, Sunday, 2 September 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link
vitamin c
― and what, Sunday, 2 September 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link
"Drunk Hot Girls" is the worst song ever.
― milo z, Sunday, 2 September 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link
Damnit, we get it! Paste Magazine was right!
― Tape Store, Sunday, 2 September 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link
big brother is one of the best rap songs all year and one of kanyes best songs everrr IMO
― titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 2 September 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link
the album seems a bit hurried though - like he hasnt spent as much time on it as the others.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 2 September 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link
this thread makes me weep for the children
― strongohulkington, Sunday, 2 September 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link
or maybe the man-children
Too much time on coke/ecstacy/sluts/hipsters retroactively soaking up Daft Punk (too late, Swizz did this earlier and better) and trying to make Puffy circa 1998 music videos in misguided attempt to catch up with the cool kids he was always too nerdy to hang with until he realized in that typically coked-out megalomaniacal way that he was the biggest pop star ever. P.S. Common looks so Obi Wan on that new album - stay in Brooklyn loser, Chi doesn't need you and never did.
― Gavin, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link
Kanye was doing beats for Bad Boy artists in '98, I don't think he needed to "catch up" with what Puffy was doing back then.
― Alex in Baltimore, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm sure he'll appreciate the advice.
(xpost)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link
Or whatever the hell your bizarre coked-out rant was trying to say. (xpost)
― Alex in Baltimore, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link
Have you seen the Stronger video? It's like a throwback to 1998, but in an era where no one watches MTV any more.
This album sucks, Kanye got on the synth bandwagon too late and hasn't figured them out yet. He's trying to replace the old retro-soul-vibe with this hamfisted future aesthetic (those idiotic glasses!) but cannot pull it off. I blame new friends and the addiction to that drug... uh, I guess he said fame in that mixtape, so nm.
P.S. Did I hurt you guyses feelings?
― Gavin, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link
-- Alex in Baltimore, Sunday, September 2, 2007 10:28 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
madd rapper suicide pact
― and what, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link
Have you seen the Stronger video? It's like a throwback to 1998
i don't see the problem
― Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link
the jordan sargent "svelte" of approval
― and what, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/137405/2/istockphoto_137405_rubber_stamp_approved.jpg
― Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.willisms.com/archives/randysavage.jpg
― Gavin, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link
Issues tackled at the conference speak to how many things can be discerned from studying names -- chosen names, given names, place names, product names, names in fiction and names in history. In the "Queer Names'' panel alone, vast stores of cultural information were mined from, for instance, the methodical study of gay male porn names. Who knew that although drag queens usually employ sexual innuendo or humor in their stage names, it is strikingly uncommon for male gay porn stars to do so? Apparently, bland names are perceived to be more attractive.
― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link
]At another wedding Gregg Kaminsky and his partner wore matching Burberry ties. They tied a Burberry scarf around their dog, a Jack Russell terrier, and sent him racing up the aisle with their wedding rings.
― Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 2 September 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link
-- Gavin, Sunday, September 2, 2007 10:35 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
I agree that Kanye's synth work on the album could be better and it's kind of a weird aesthetic fit for him, and that the 'futuristic' videos/clothes are cheesy and he's letting A-Trak or whoever turn him onto some wack hipster shit. But, as a great man once said: "No hard feelings. You just sound like a chump."
― Alex in Baltimore, Sunday, 2 September 2007 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link
i dont think his synth work is that bad at all. its not like hes trying to sound like say, jeezys producers. hes just trying to combine it with his own thing.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 3 September 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link
i like those glasses
― max, Monday, 3 September 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link
my dad used to have a pair like that in red
― max, Monday, 3 September 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link
This is by far his best album, imo, but that's coming from someone who liked about 75% of his first one, maybe 50% of his second and, despite thinking he's an awesome producer, I've never liked his flow, or most of his lyrics.
Suffice it to say, the production, lyrics and flow on this album are by far his most solid. He's not just doing that fuckin' annoying thing where he rhymes the same sounding thing over and over ("She was supposed to get TYco with the money, she went and got LYpo with the money, she should've got insured GEico with your money" ... ugh).
He's still not the greatest rapper, but this is definitely a solid album. "Drunk and Hot girls" was a grower, but I love that track now. And "Everything I Am" with the primo scratches is awesome.
Much like with the new Arcade Fire, an artist who I found to have an overrated album / persona came back with an album that actually justified their hype, proving that I'm not always an elitist asshole who hates popular music.
― Erock Zombie, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 02:29 (seventeen years ago) link
He's not just doing that fuckin' annoying thing where he rhymes the same sounding thing over and over ("She was supposed to get TYco with the money, she went and got LYpo with the money, she should've got insured GEico with your money" ... ugh).
you mean "rhyming"?
― max, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:26 (seventeen years ago) link
i have totally been on the nuts of 'good life' all day today. thanks emoti-kanye.
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:35 (seventeen years ago) link
Don't ever fix your lips like collagen then say something where you gon end up apologin Let me know if it's a problem then aight man holla then
― Tape Store, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:44 (seventeen years ago) link
obviously max otm.
― Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:47 (seventeen years ago) link
yeah totally, i like those verses, not annoying to me.
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:48 (seventeen years ago) link
i know i was being sarcastic but i cant parse the sentence "that... thing where he rhymes the same sounding thing over and over" any other way
― max, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:49 (seventeen years ago) link
He uses the 'word' "apologin"!!
From what i've heard, "Good Life" is easily the best track, and I attribute 65% of its awesomeness to T. Pain's contribution...30% to the beat (Go PYT sample!)...5% to Kanye's verses (obv. Kanye's production belongs in that 95% chunk...I love how he treates T. Pain as an instrument rather than as some quirky guest vocalist)
― Tape Store, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Actually, 65% is a bit high. Give more to the beat.
― Tape Store, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:55 (seventeen years ago) link
if "champion" doesn't end up being a single i'll probably end up liking it the best a year from now as one of those tracks on his albums that are as good as the singles but since it isn't a single you don't get tired of hearing it ("spaceship," get 'em high," "drive slow," "gone" etc.)
― Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link
altho i guess drive slow was a single (or had a video) but it didn't do shit so it doesn't really count.
― Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 05:02 (seventeen years ago) link
"A-Trak is a part of our whole scene. He plays everything across the board. He just loves music. I know he introduced Kanye to a lot of things, one thing in particular was the movie Anchorman (laughs). And now Kayne quotes the movie in his songs all the time and you can hear it."
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link
Let me know if it's a problem then aight man holla then
-- Tape Store, Tuesday, September 4, 2007 4:44 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Link
oh man, the long long pause between those two lines is infuriating. also "they say I talk with so much emphasis..................ooh they so sensitive!"
I don't think anyone should want to take credit for 'introducing' Kanye to <i>Anchorman</i>, I mean he was quoting shit like <i>Happy Gilmore</i> well before that anyway. Kanye is like a walking Snorg shirt.
― Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link
A-Trak understands the importance of the dress.
― mh, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link
the problem with kanye
for example these two lines: Let me know if it's a problem then aight man holla then
that second one is completely extraneous
this seems to be the case for almost 25% of his lyrics if my calculations are correct
― kl0pper, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link
I just cannot get into this album. I loved his first, this is my least favourite of his albums
― Rowlando, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link
Does "Stronger" sound any different from the single version on anyone's copy of the album? Kanye said in a few recent interviews that he had Timbaland re-do the drums for the LP version of the song at the last minute, but it sounds exactly the same as it did before on the copy I downloaded. Maybe it'll be the new version on the retail CD next week, though?
― Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link
Why does "Drunk and Hot Girls" completely steal the vocal melody from a Can song? ("Sing Swan Song")
― rockapads, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link
It takes a lot more than that, if you'd listen further or read more upthread.
― mh, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link
Huh, I always thought Donald Fagen was saying "Italian," not "champion."
― jaymc, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link