Stevie Nicks solo - Classic or Dud?

(also that comment about her needing LB's arrangements upthread is wrong cuz LB would never have realized "stand back" ought to sound like a prince tune)

This song would have greatly benefitted from a Bonnie Tyler and Eddie Money treatment rather than Don Henley mewling "Sometimes I'm a strong man/Sometimes cold and scared/And sometimes I cry." Yeah sometimes I cry too Don, usually when I'm listening to one of your solo tunes.

Plus I think it's quite ironic that she was never all that popular in the UK, which is essentially where Fleetwood Mac come from.

But *every* Stevie Nicks song involves a delusional girl. Her songs are nothing if not full of uncertainty and self-doubt.

We're all allowed to flub lines in the midst of cocaine psychosis.

also, "i can't wait" video had some serious mid-80's sizzle to it.

Brian, it's not really fair to tease us like that. Esp. since my first thought was OMG I MUST HAVE THIS.

'Far as poetry goes, all props to Alfred for the thread. We haven't actually mentioned "After The Glitter Fades" by name, but it stands for me among the best of all singer-songwriter SoCaliana*, from "Late For The Sky" through "A Long December."

*A genre defined by the hoovering of rails in an elegiac mode.

Edge of Seventeen is a stone classic. But not as stone classic as "Stone in Love" by Journey which is a double-stone classic for use of the word "stone" in the title.*

*Also, I noticed the other day that the main riff from Stone in Love is totally ripped off by "Drown" by Son Volt, which was by far their best song. Huh.

Suspect the collective might throw a lot of "Windfall" and "Tear Stained Eye" at that Son Volt POO, but "Stone In Love" was WITHOUT QUESTION Journey's finest hour. I love it without irony. Deserves its own thread.

"Edge of Seventeen" was what Destiny's Child sampled for "Bootylicious," right?

Not sure which I like more: "Seventeen" or "Bootylicious."

Hilarious!

"Edge of Seventeen" is fucking immense.

Get ahold of yourself, man, for God's sake.

Yeah, you know it, Bitch.

"Stand Back". I saw this video before I could even GET fucking MTV. You know it fucking rules. And look at her fucking hair. Is it not perfect hair??? How many hairdressers were responsible for that?

This one goes out to Alfred Soto - "I Can't Wait":

And by the way, Edge of Seventeen...

Get ahold of yourself, man, for God's sake.

Hahaha. Why?

She's the goddess. Get on the train now. She's the Queen, man. She's even going to outdo Nico as Queen of Goth if I'm not careful here.

Anyway I don't want to talk to people who haven't heard Kate Bush's The Dreaming album just yet. Just sayin'.

Leather & Lace, live 1981

How Still My Love, live 1983

"This is a song about an old Welsh witch" LOL

haven't read any of this, but its obviously not even an issue, stevie has held her own.

I know I have resurrected this thread about a zillion times, but I want to know if anyone knows this song "Gold & Braid" which didn't appear on either of her first two albums for some weird reason. I'm not even positive that she wrote it, but it's become a big fave of mine.

It's on the box set; before then it was only found on that live show VHS to which you linked.

Yeah! Thanks for responding. I knew it was on the Enchanted thing, that was it. Allmusic says it's indeed her song, but I suppose allmusic could be wrong.

^^^ best fucking album ever, as I discovered about a month ago

I remember reading Details Magazine when it was still around and they did a Q&A with Stevie and the writer had the audacity to ask her about a rather explicit rumor (rumour?) that was going around at the time. I will paraphrase:

Interviewer: There's a rumor going around that you did so much coke that your nostrils are wrecked and you have an assistant blow coke into your asshole. (Yes, they came right out and asked her about this).

Nicks: (no response)

Interviewer: It must suck having those kinds of rumors about you.

I remember at the time finding it unreal they even asked, and more surprised she didn't storm out of the inteview.

well the magazine was called details

lol I remember it

My Stevie @Barbie has been with me now for several months. When Mattel came to me asking if I would like to have a Barbie made in the “Rumours” cover style I was very overwhelmed. Of course I questioned “would she look like me? Would she have my spirit? Would she have my heart…”… pic.twitter.com/JQXjF7XSMK

— Stevie Nicks (@StevieNicks) October 2, 2023

I guess there have been a few of these random Music Series Barbies, including Bowie:

https://www.billboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/David-Bowie-Barbie-hero.jpg?w=942&h=623&crop=1

Mid 70s yellow teeth coked up Bowie would have made a great Joker

Happy birthday, girl

https://i.imgur.com/kvPyPCA.gif

Aw hell yeah

STEVIE NICKS ON SNL WHAT A FUCKING LEGEND pic.twitter.com/c8uGAnh0cM

— stevie nicks manager (@kajolswife) October 13, 2024

She was pretty awesome.

I was skeptical but she brought it.

Although as it went on I was more and more distracted by the backing vocal track, clearly her, as pre recorded harmonies. It was like a wall of Stevies.

awesome

Still kind of ick to see Waddy up there

she's never ditching waddy.

Waddy looks like a skeleton dressed up as Bob Weir for Halloween

Official upload of full performance (much better sound):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1PpthYqJks

It's a big improvement on the record they actually released simply because Nicks is openly pissed off and lets it rip - a much better job of nailing the spirit of the song.

I was kinda underwhelmed

Extraordinary interview:

Is there internet on your iPhone

It isn’t connected, it’s just a camera.

I’m envious of that.

I hate it. About 10 years ago, Katy Perry was talking to me about the internet armies of all the girl singers, and how cruel and rancid they were. I said, “Well, I wouldn’t know because I’m not on the internet.” She said, “So, who are your rivals?” I just looked at her. It was my steely look. I said, “Katy, I don’t have rivals. I have friends. All the other women singers that I know are friends. Nobody’s competing. Get off the internet and you won’t have rivals either.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/stevie-nicks-fleetwood-mac-kamala-harris-new-music-1235140437/

the best <3

I love reading interviews with her. She's a very interesting person. Every time, I come away wishing I liked her music.

the best <3

Feeling this track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R9bYZNd7qA

yeah good one, love that album.

“Rooms on fire” has been stuck in my head for weeks now, what a song

I was kinda underwhelmed

Agree. I saw her live early in the year and she was amazing, but the SNL stage (and the sound) is not very friendly to this kind of straight performance these days, I don't think. Also, as well intentioned as the new song is, it's pretty flat for me as a song. It's better than her awful pro-soldier song that she plays these days though.

“Rooms on fire” has been stuck in my head for weeks now, what a song

― brimstead,

and that song doesn't rhyme! It's the template for what Rupert Hine would do a few years later with Rush's "Ghost of a Chance."

She has said The Other Side of the Mirror is her peak; it happened between the coke rehab period and the Klonopin addiction.

I was blasting Rooms on Fire driving home from the Container Store this evening!

if I do say so myself

She has said The Other Side of the Mirror is her peak

this got me to finally check it out - I got obsessed with Rooms on Fire a few years ago but never got around to the LP. this is great.

The last two songs are wild.

Happy birthday, girl!

https://i.imgur.com/kvPyPCA.gif

HBD STEVIE

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hb to the greatest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-VQ66lpC-0

^^^ oh my god I love this track, catchy motherfucker

yeah it’s a killer!

did you know where the phrase “edge of seventeen” came from? It was the way tom petty’s wife said “age of seventeen” in her thick southern accent when telling Stevie about how they met.