Spandau Ballet: Classic or Dud?

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anyone seen goldie's albert square reeeemix?

gareth, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Spandau Ballet- universally demonized, unfairly so. Journeys To Glory is magnificent, flamboyant pop. 'To Cut A Long Story Short' is synth- pop at its most addictive, 'Musclebound' a brooding slice of homoerotica. The instrumental 'Age Of Blows' is worth investigation too.

Diamond, the second album, is the best- when the horns kick into the 'Chant #1' intro is one of my top five moments on any single. They really shine on the second half of the record, with the atmospherics of 'Pharaoh' and the eight- minute 'Missionary'. 'Innocence And Science' could fit snugly onto side two of 'Heroes' by Dave.

Sadly, after this they went for the big bucks- although 'True' and 'Gold' are irresistable, Kemp's lyrics go from the abstract to the deeply embarassing; "There's power in her voice and it makes her feel so sure/So live and let live in love". From here onwards it's a downhill slide into Simply Red-dom, save for 'Highly Strung' and the sheer cheek of the "diplomat/laundromat" rhyme.

I could embark on a defence of the Blow Monkeys too, but I'd probably be here all night.

Jamie, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

True and Gold are GODLIKE, and for that SB are forever classic. A lot of the rest is pretty bland and stylised, but I care not.

And my sister watches Eastenders and Martin Kemp is still cute. No wonder Steven Strange tried to seduce him.

Nicole, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Agree with Nicole about True and Gold (nothing else though).

True was the song I first danced - y'know *d a n c e d* - to with a GIRL. At the school disco. A MASSIVE moment in my life so FUCK OFF with this Dud business.

"This is the sooouuund of my soul"

DavidM, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Back at home, I bought the more cutting-edge stuff and my brother handled the pop. But I did listen to the second album and admit that even though there was much to hate about them, I liked it quite a lot--especially the ersatz orentalia of numbers like "Pharaoh" and "Innocence And Science." And the fake funk, too--does anyone else remember the big "fake funk" craze which followed right on the heels of the New Romantics? Funkapolitan, Modern Romance, "Beat Noir," etc.--much of it awful but much of it also glorious pop fun. My brother is dead now, but I'll always remember how he defended Madonna way back in 1983 and said that there's nothing wrong with just plain fun. So even Spandau Ballet have--or had--their place, small as it was. (Thanks, Jamie, for reminding me.)

X. Y. Zedd, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three months pass...
Coming into this one *way* late, obviously, but I just found the _Gold_ greatest hits collection yesterday and couldn't resist picking it up. Basically what Nicole said, but my one random, feverish viewing of "To Cut A Long Story Short" on video was both hilarious and impressive all at once. I still remember that in my Joy Division/New Order Omnibus Press bio -- I forget who wrote it -- the guy got all worked up over just about every band that followed JD as being useless wannabes (from the Pop Group to Killing Joke to U2 to Spandau, bizarrely enough!), and specifically targeted Spandau as the anti-Joy Division. Eh?

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two years pass...
Revive? If only because I'm listening to said collection again for what is probably the first time in two years.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 05:03 (twenty-two years ago)

"true" is irresistable. "she loves like diamond," on the other hand, is some of the most tuneless braying i've ever heard in my life.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 30 October 2003 05:23 (twenty-two years ago)

'Journeys to Glory' - did New Romanticism ever get more ludicrously wonderful than this?

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 30 October 2003 05:35 (twenty-two years ago)

"True" and "Gold" alone makes Spandau Ballet classic.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 30 October 2003 10:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, a sort of wary thumbs up from me too - "True" and "Gold" are fabulous, the chorus of "I'll Fly For You" is good when the fucking song finally gets round to it, the early singles are period-piece intriguing, the others I'm not keen on, obviously I've never heard any album tracks by them.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

All of their albums are great.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Um, "Instinction" and "Communication" are pretty fab.

d.w., Thursday, 30 October 2003 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

the guy got all worked up over just about every band that followed JD as being useless wannabes (from the Pop Group to Killing Joke to U2 to Spandau, bizarrely enough!)

Except that The Pop Group didn't follow Joy Division - don't worry, I'm just the Post Punk Pedant In The Corner

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 30 October 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

nine months pass...
Revive - I'm currently enjoying the second album "Diamond" despite not having a very good opinion of the band previous to this. I bought the album with True on it a long time ago, didn't like it much as an album. Later checked out their first album "Journeys To Glory" and didn't like it too much, either. But Diamond is great - I mean, if you're a fan of Chic like me it's just nice to hear something that so obviously takes Chic as its reference point without being too derivative. They certainly dared to be funkier than Duran ever did, despite the fact that Duran too were influenced by Chic.

Bimble (bimble), Sunday, 29 August 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

the only band ever that made Andy Partridge start a beef = classick.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 29 August 2004 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

That guitar lick in "True" fills me with rage and loathing so extreme that I cannot understand it, let alone explain it, and has done so for 20+ years. The same goes for the vocals. I hate that song so much that I have no right to judge Spandau Ballet, I could never be objective enough. Besides, I barely know any of their other songs - heard "Communication", it left no impression at all.

(And their fashion sense pisses me off too. Maybe I'm just jealous. Who cares?)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 29 August 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

seven months pass...
Revive: I saw Journeys To Glory for v. v. cheap. Should I buy it?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 25 April 2005 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

What are the singles on that one?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 April 2005 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Oddly, "True" and "Gold" are possibly my most disliked Spandau tracks, such overblown MOR pomposity, and frankly thanks to Black Books I'll never hear it the same way again anyhow.

I really like "To Cut a Long Story Short", "Chant #1" and "Instinction" though. Say whats with the phrase "Stealing cake to eat the moon" thats sung in that one? There's also a song by Aussie band the Moffs called the same. Always wondered what that was about.

Oh look, theres Google. Doo de dum...

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 25 April 2005 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)

"What are the singles on that one?"

I think "To Cut A Long Story Short" and "Musclebound".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 25 April 2005 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I also rather like "the Freeze".

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 25 April 2005 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, buy it then. At the very least it will be a perfect curio in terms of what happens when a bunch of characters want to form 'a band' to look right and fit into a current scene, where advantageously the scene rules even if the band doesn't always.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 April 2005 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm with trayce

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Monday, 25 April 2005 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i heard 'Musclebound' the other day on the college radio station around here and was totally blown away. it was like funky post-punk pirate music with a little bit of nick cave thrown in. i bought the singles collection and was pretty disapointed. i think maybe i'll pick up that first album if it's at all like musclebound?

[that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 25 April 2005 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

The correct period for Spandau love is being identified!

moley, Monday, 25 April 2005 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow! I was just listening to The Singles Collection yesterday! Impressions:

The hook on "To Cut A Long Story Short" is like a Paul Stanley KISS riff played on a synth, "Musclebound" is more homoerotic than Duran Duran would ever allow themselves, and "Gold" is more Barry Manilow than Roxy Music, which in the Spands' case was a better influence.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 25 April 2005 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

The hook on "To Cut A Long Story Short" is the hook of "Love Will Tear Us Apart" played on a Stylophone with its batteries running low at 78 rpm.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 25 April 2005 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

They fucking rule. I believe a critical reassessment of "Parade" and of the evil genius of Gary Kemp is looooooooong overdue

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Monday, 25 April 2005 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

He's the only songwriter I know who's used "subterfuge" in a lyric ("Lifeline").

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 25 April 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

the Kemp is all about subterfuge

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Hiding behind his tuxedoed kilts or whatever.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

is that really Gary Kemp in "The Bodyguard" as Whitney's smarmy agent? It was really easy to imagine the author of "I'll Fly For You" and "Musclebound" playing this character.

The Kemp bros were great in "The Krays."

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

They were always too showtuney for my taste, but -- god help me -- my wife loves them.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Everyone must see the video for "To Cut a Long Story Short"! Kilts!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Gary was on Larry Sanders for a couple episodes, exuding smarmy brilliance

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Monday, 25 April 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The dancing in the video for 'To Cut a Long...'! We just don't see that kind of thing enough any more.

moley, Monday, 25 April 2005 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I would say their classic phase was always the soul-influenced ballad phase. Their funk/disco thing was done so much better by ABC at roughly the same time anyway. Besides "The Look Of Love" and "Poison Arrow", stuff like "Chat No. 1" and "Paint Me Down" seems extremely tuneless.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

As I said I listened real hard to my Spands compilation this morning on my drive to work and - well. I'm famously indifferent to bad lyrics except when a singer's inability to sell them makes the lyrics unavoidable. "I wanna be a magical mystery" and "The artist pretending it's art" and "she rides the soul train while he fights the law" are most unattractive camp; Bryan Ferry, from whom Tony Hadley draws so much inspiration, would have invested such howlers with unexpected nuances. Too often Spandau is just bad camp.

That said, "Only When You Leave" and "Gold" are friggin' glorious.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 25 April 2005 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

oh man, "Only When You Leave"...

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 29 October 2007 01:54 (eighteen years ago)

"True" is great. Not only the song, but also the album. It's the only Spandau Ballet album that fully works as an album from beginning to end, not only as a bunch of singles and filler.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 29 October 2007 09:24 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

"Musclebound" got played on Pick Of The Pops yesterday.

Horst Wessel to fuck, what a racket.

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 28 April 2008 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

ten months pass...

http://www.spandauballetstore.com/index.html

Go on, knock yersel out.

(Exclusive Ticket Link, as per arrived in my gmail inbox, no interest)

Mark G, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 15:22 (seventeen years ago)

The True Sound of Thatcherism

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 15:45 (seventeen years ago)

I don't advocate that particular article, mind. I think I've only heard their singles. Just clicked on it this morning and now this thread has been revived.

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 15:45 (seventeen years ago)

Jesus, that article was a heap of dirty caftans.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 15:50 (seventeen years ago)

jeez:

Billy Bragg has even attributed his decision to become a performer to them: "One day I saw Spandau Ballet on Top of the Pops wearing kilts and singing Chant No 1 and something in me snapped. I was waiting for a band to come along to play the kind of music I wanted to hear, and none was forthcoming, so it was that moment I finally realised it was gonna have to be me," he said at a press conference in August 2003.

.. and went on to tour and do gigs as part of Red Wedge, alongside Gary and Martin Kemp! (Not Tony Hadley, clearly)

I never liked them, but they were always about the 'raising yerself up' like the Mods did. Which is not Thatcherism, it predates her by a large margin. And seeing as how they wrote the songs, etc (and not the clothes horse in front), the article is a bunch of crap.

Mark G, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 16:34 (seventeen years ago)

That quote makes me want to throw Billy Bragg off a skyscraper. Douche.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 16:40 (seventeen years ago)

It is the key to all the doors
it is the crashing on the shores
it lives in your steering wheel
(!)
it hides in the wind and rain
with voices as cold as steel
it’s calling your name

this is the nature of the beast
(this is the nature)
this is the nature of the beast
(this is the nature)
without all this heat
they’ll be dancing west to east
this is the nature of the beast

Spandau Ballet vs. Thompson Twins, hmm...

Eazy, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 16:42 (seventeen years ago)

How can this of all threads have no images?

Duran Duran + Crocodile Dundee =
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q66/DaneShadows/spandau-ballet.jpg

Eazy, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 16:52 (seventeen years ago)

Spandau Ballet appear in a short interview just before the 7 minute mark of this quite wonderful 12 minute news report (1981) on "The New Romantics": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CApOAaxUuc - "Spandau Ballet refuse to promote themselves like a normal pop group. They only appear at concerts in unusual venues, and these are never advertised. Their followers just hear through the grapevine where they're appearing."

christopher.ivan, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 14:26 (eight years ago)

Well that formatted horribly...

christopher.ivan, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 14:27 (eight years ago)

Yet their music was, on the whole, gash. Seriously, their first record is basically 'To Cut a Long Story Short', 'The Freeze' and a load of crapola.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 14:29 (eight years ago)

I'm sure I remember reading that even though Gary Kemp came out in support of Labour during the '80s, Tony Hadley was actually a raging Thatcherite.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 21:56 (eight years ago)

Hadley is a supporter of the Conservative Party and an admirer of former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.[32] Journalist Andrew Pierce, in a 2014 piece for the Daily Mail, described Hadley as "the Tories' biggest celebrity backer".[33] He has attended the party's annual conference and was once reported to be interested in standing as an MP.[34] The New Statesman has described Hadley as one of the few openly right-wing rock stars.[35]

new noise, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 22:17 (eight years ago)

Wow, what a cunt.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 22:18 (eight years ago)

They were shit. All of it.

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 22:24 (eight years ago)

Hang on, "Openly Right-Wing"?

How does he do that?

Mark G, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 22:41 (eight years ago)

"True", "Gold", and "Communication" all classic. The rest blah.

The most classic aspect of this band is the meaning of their name with compared against the sound and sentiment of their most popular songs.

yesca, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 05:57 (eight years ago)

The most classic aspect of this band is the meaning of their name with compared against the sound and sentiment of their most popular songs.

As a callow youth, I lived in Spandau just as the group were becoming popular in Germany. The residents of Spandau (which looked about as romantic and windswept as Harlow, with the random addition of Rudolf Hess) were understandably baffled by the name of the group, and appeared to blame me personally for it.

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 09:53 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsD5MoQJK2I

MaresNest, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 14:37 (eight years ago)

Ha yeah, their name is easily the most edgiest thing about them! Could have been the perfect name for a heavy metal band.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 14:46 (eight years ago)

It's more goth, I'd say..

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 15:14 (eight years ago)

They did wear kilts on stage early on. 'To Cut A Long Story Short' is their best track and it's weird that they didn't go more in that direction. 'Instinction' is fun in a "this is music for proto-yuppie wankers" way. 'True' would be a great record - every with the ridiculous lyrics, "seaside arms" WTF? - if it didn't reset itself two thirds of the way through. It's like the songwriters gave up and copypasted the first bit again to fill out the running time.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 20:25 (eight years ago)

In summary: childe snoball would have liked SB as much as Duran Duran, had they not been so intent on their soul obsessions and been willing to make fools of themselves in the name of art (like DD often did and they themselves did early on).

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 20:27 (eight years ago)

Oh and Tony Hadley looks like David Cameron's stunt double.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 20:29 (eight years ago)

'looks like' or 'is'?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 20:50 (eight years ago)

At this rate Cameron will have to get a job as Hadley's stunt double.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 21:16 (eight years ago)

Dunt stubble

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 21:46 (eight years ago)

Cunt double, more like.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 22:28 (eight years ago)

Really let's all just admit that when it comes to the New Romantics there is Japan and the everything else waaaaaaay down below.

yesca, Thursday, 6 July 2017 06:25 (eight years ago)

Japan weren't New Romantics.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 July 2017 07:34 (eight years ago)

Yeah, Japan and Ultravox predated that whole thing by a good few years.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 6 July 2017 09:44 (eight years ago)

Ultravox had some connection though through Visage, Japan had nothing to do with it.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 July 2017 09:48 (eight years ago)

xp I think it was concurrent. The Blitz scene was the next thing after punk for that crowd but it probably only got media attention a bit after that as most things do.

Stevolende, Thursday, 6 July 2017 09:53 (eight years ago)

Ultravox had some connection though through Visage, Japan had nothing to do with it.

― weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, July 6, 2017 9:48 AM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If you look at it like that, then Magazine also had a connection through Visage.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 6 July 2017 10:01 (eight years ago)

Except that Visage post-dated them all.

Mark G, Thursday, 6 July 2017 10:37 (eight years ago)

& I thought the Ure fronted Ultravox were more directly linked in with the Blitz scene. I thought whoever it was was differentiating from the John Foxx fronted version.

Stevolende, Thursday, 6 July 2017 10:39 (eight years ago)

Yes and no. Midge Ure and Billy Currie were part of the Visage project (which was essentially a supergroup of Rich Kids, Ultravox and Magazine members, plus Steve Strange and featuring Cedric Sharpley and Chris Payne from Gary Numan's backing band on one track - you can guess which one) but Ultravox MKII (the Midge-fronted incarnation) pretty much mostly carried on from where the John Foxx-led version had left off. The Vienna album was written collectively by the band from scratch in the same room, and the lyrics were mostly written by drummer Warren Cann. It was also produced by Conny Plank as was the previous album, Systems of Romance, and the subsequent album, Rage in Eden. By the time they switched to George Martin for Quartet, the whole New Romantic thing was pretty much over. 'Mind of a Toy' and 'Tar' on the first Visage album were actually developed from ideas that Billy Currie had from John Foxx's time in Ultravox, as was 'I Remember (Death in the Afternoon)' from Rage in Eden.

It was actually John Foxx that changed his sound the most when the first line-up of Ultravox split - while he retained his melodic sense and his unique and wonderful voice, rather than opt for full-blooded band arrangements a la Systems of Romance, he went starker, colder and more purely electronic on Metamatic, more in the mould of early Fad Gadget. He'd return to the band sound for his second album, The Garden, which is a record I really like, but feels lighter than Systems of Romance sonically.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 6 July 2017 10:58 (eight years ago)

Japan weren't New Romantics.

Kind of like how Leftfield weren't Progressive House either.

yesca, Thursday, 6 July 2017 13:02 (eight years ago)

Re "seaside arms" - I was dismayed to discover that this was an allusion to Nabokov :( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/11130014/Spandau-Ballets-True-story-1980s-pop-stars-on-how-their-hits-were-written.html

Stevie T, Thursday, 6 July 2017 13:53 (eight years ago)

I thought it was something to do with Brighton Scooter Rallies

Mark G, Thursday, 6 July 2017 14:18 (eight years ago)

this much is true!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 July 2017 14:28 (eight years ago)

I keep meaning to post this to the Balearic thread. Best thing they've ever done by a country mile.
https://open.spotify.com/track/3Kwc780bTf6Nj6cV1dQG1z

(No Youtube apparently, hence Spotify)

bamboohouses, Thursday, 6 July 2017 14:37 (eight years ago)

ten months pass...

Spandau Ballet to unveil replacement for singer Tony Hadley

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Friday, 1 June 2018 02:11 (eight years ago)

Not sure why they didn't ask me, as Ned will confirm.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2018 02:11 (eight years ago)

four years pass...

Paul Hollywood and the Bake-Offs

Whatever the era, such sharply dressed chaps. pic.twitter.com/TKwJ692Zzl

— Spandau Ballet (@SpandauBallet) August 6, 2022

The self-titled drags (Eazy), Thursday, 8 September 2022 21:54 (three years ago)

one year passes...

Spandau Ballet to unveil replacement for singer Tony Hadley

― Portsmouth Bubblejet, Friday, June 1, 2018 2:11 AM (six years ago) bookmarkflaglink

About that...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/25/sadistic-and-manipulative-ex-spandau-ballet-singer-guilty-of

psychobilly elegy (Matt #2), Thursday, 25 July 2024 21:51 (one year ago)


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