weird, maybe it's because it came out so damn long ago but i dont seem to notice any discourse around Veckatimest anymore, or even ppl objecting to it placing on all these lists.
― ethan PADGY (k3vin k.), Thursday, 21 January 2010 05:49 (fourteen years ago) link
well it did come out after mpp... idk, it kind of makes sense to me. when compared to anco's super dense electro mess, dirty projectors' awkward math pop, karen o, and phoenix dude's french accent, it's a pretty pleasant and unintrusive album.
― samosa gibreel, Thursday, 21 January 2010 05:56 (fourteen years ago) link
as in, even if you're not into that sort of thing you wouldn't mind having it play in the background once in a blue moon.
APYG
i quite like the first three. grizzly bear is kinda boring, and i find dirty projectors really intolerable.
― kaygee, Thursday, 21 January 2010 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link
re: Grizzly Bear, I think it's great in the background, but also rewards close listening. It seems it's been pretty much dismissed by ILX. I'm not sure I understand that...is it because of perceptions of the bandmembers as generic hipsters/poseurs? It's definitely a somber album, which probably turns some people off. I can also understand people thinking it's too subdued and straight-laced, but I like that it's able to convey extreme emotion with such restraint. I also don't get Xhuxk's comment about it being "hookless, gutless, grooveless, shapeless..." (on single jukebox). The melodies and arrangements are pretty great imo.
I didn't love "Yellow House" as much when I first heard it...it felt shapeless and lacking in hooks (with the exception of "Knife". I'm appreciating it more now in retrospect. It's just a different experience, more atmospheric and less structured. It also didn't suffer as much from being overhyped.
― Dan S, Thursday, 21 January 2010 06:26 (fourteen years ago) link
who really cares about the black flag thing, anyways? - I wasn't bothered by the concept, just sorta lukewarm on the music.
― hukqs not drukqs (Pillbox), Thursday, 21 January 2010 06:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't think anything about grizzly bear is bad, really, and i definitely like some songs (i definitely preferred yellow house). i just don't think the thought "hey i should put on grizzly bear" has ever crossed my mind. listening to them felt like homework.
on the other hand, the fact that i really enjoyed yellow house and haven't listened to veckatimest more than two or three times is probably just reflective of a shift in the sort of music that interests me over the past few years.
― kaygee, Thursday, 21 January 2010 06:52 (fourteen years ago) link
kaykay^
― ethan PADGY (k3vin k.), Thursday, 21 January 2010 06:57 (fourteen years ago) link
I really like Dirty Projectors. I think they're fun and cool.
― Mordy, Thursday, 21 January 2010 06:59 (fourteen years ago) link
phoenix
― max, Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:40 PM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:52 PM (10 hours ago) Bookmark
― plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, January 20, 2010 2:11 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark
― psychgawsple, Thursday, 21 January 2010 07:23 (fourteen years ago) link
A>Y>P*>D>G
* tho their previous record killed this one
― scottpl, Thursday, 21 January 2010 07:48 (fourteen years ago) link
phoenix - i just listened to this one more than any of the others. it's really solid and good for just about any occasion. yyys - also solid, good pop record, "zero" is a transcendent single imogrizzbear - i really like this record and think that ppl completely missed the point of it. if it was a record from the 60s everyone would venerate it, but because it's from now it gets hated for being "too indie"dps - this record is ok but rise above was much much better; i think they actually need some kind of framework like the black flag thing because otherwise they have too many ideas and it just kind of falls apart.anco - i gave this a ton of chances but i never liked these guys and probably never will
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 January 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link
dp - amazing album, took a long time to get into, it was worth the work. feel like a i 'know' this album now. listened to 50+ times.phoenix - empty music. drummer is ace though. really want to like it cuz the vibes are so nice but it just leaves me cold. listened to about 20 times.yyys - never really paid it much attention, singles were good. have heard most of it 3 or 4 times.anco - bought sung tongs lp and gave it away. after spotify run through this isn't any better. the bits that are meant to be momentous or meaningful don't do anything for me.grizzly bear - a friend of a friend was recording with this guy apparently. that's as much as i know about him. so no comment.
― Crackle Box, Thursday, 21 January 2010 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link
i heard grizzly bear is a chill bro
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Thursday, 21 January 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Kinda furry imo.
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 January 2010 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link
definitely agree, even if i'm voting for WAP
― da croupier, Thursday, 21 January 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Best to worst ranking:
1. YYYs – Best album by consistently great band.
2. AnCo – Solid album by consistently interesting (if not always great) band. Possibly their third or fourth best album, though.
3. Phoenix – Singles are pleasantly inoffensive. Don’t get the “top 5 of 2009” hype. Haven’t heard the album.
4. Dirty Projectors – lex is right. Interesting ideas, poor execution.
5. Grizzlies – Anything I’ve heard from Veckatimest makes me want to shoot myself in the face.
Voted YYYs.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 21 January 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link
YYY, P >>>> major drop off >>> AnCo >>> falls of a cliff >>> DPs, GB
― Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 21 January 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
the critical narrative around DPs praising them for their engagement with r&b is possibly the most infuriating of the year, given that 90% of the time it comes from critics or commentators who have a 10% engagement - if that - with r&b themselves
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 22 January 2010 10:59 (fourteen years ago) link
i blame you lot for making it 'cool' to reference rnb in reviews, blurbs etc. aside from the cheesy breakdown in stillness is the move i don't hear any rnb on this album. the melismatic vocal stuff doesn't sound anything like an rnb singer to me.
what is this about poor execution? the playing is flawless throughout. totally inspiring in places, the guitar solo on no intention, the drum rolls on temecula sunrise, the close harmonies the girls hit, the clunky, syncopated rhythms, use of hocket to break melodies up. this album was a total breath of fresh air after not really feeling any songy guitar indie whatever music for a while. also like how they never sound like they're trying too hard, or like they're trying to manipulate you into feeling something <- pretty sure this is why i don't get on with the phoenix + anco albums.
― Crackle Box, Friday, 22 January 2010 12:14 (fourteen years ago) link
YYY - It's Blitz!. Although it waves in the middle, helluva finish. One of my favorite records of the year, by a band I found insufferable in 2003.
Dirty Projectors - Bitte Orca. Interesting bits that don't cohere.
Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Blah Blah. I listen to the seven-minute track on my work computer a lot. The rest is a mash of Radiohead, Hot Chip vocals, and "Kids Incorporated" perk-pop.
The rest.
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 January 2010 12:17 (fourteen years ago) link
kinda think "don't cohere" is a big part of the point
― plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 22 January 2010 12:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Even if it is, so what?
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 January 2010 12:25 (fourteen years ago) link
The DPs album reminds me of the first TVOTR record in the sense that I admire the ambition and intellect and I know something interesting is going on but - aside from Stillness and Two Doves - it's not something I ever want to listen to. They're a band I've mentally bookmarked in the hope that their next record will pull it all together in a more satisfying way.
― Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 22 January 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link
that's how i feel about their earlier output, for me this is the album that put it together in a wholly pleasurable way
― samosa gibreel, Friday, 22 January 2010 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, the other possibility is that this in fact their Dear Science/Merriweather Post Pavilion and I just don't like what they're gunning for, but I'm an optimist.
― Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 22 January 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYIIIIIEEEEE...
― the not-metal one (Ioannis), Friday, 22 January 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
grizz - veck - heard the first album, bored me senselessanco - merri pavvi - took a while to sink in, now i love it, its like D.I. meets the beach boys (yeah i know BB is a lazy comparison sue me)phoenix - wolf - dissapointed with this esp. after the previous album which was my most played of that year, has its moments but i havent bothered with it since i first listened to itdirty pro - bitte - hated the black flag cover album, but what ive heard from this sounds lovelyyyy - blitz - still havent given this a proper listen, 'hysteric' and 'zero' are among their best though
― Michael B, Friday, 22 January 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
best albums by each band IMO
grizz - ????anco - hollindagainphoenix - its never been like thatdirty pro - getty addressyyy - ????
― plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 22 January 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link
phoenix - wolf - dissapointed with this esp. after the previous album which was my most played of that year, has its moments but i havent bothered with it since i first listened to it
^^this but i just can't figure out why i really don't care that much abt this any more than i can figure why i loved the previous one. it is a mystery
― plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 22 January 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Dear Science,
I'd love to tailgate with you at Merriweather Post Pavilion before your trip to Veckatimest. It's blitz time!
Sincerely,
Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 January 2010 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link
lol waiting for someone, anyone other than me to stick up for grizz bear
― call all destroyer, Friday, 22 January 2010 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link
http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper932/stills/416f0a6c4b9b1-75-1.jpg
― Vajazzle My Nazzle (HI DERE), Friday, 22 January 2010 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link
it's a completely weird position to be in because all the stuff you guys are saying about vecky is the exact stuff i did say about yellow house
― call all destroyer, Friday, 22 January 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
― Crackle Box, Friday, January 22, 2010 7:14 AM (3 hours ago)
by "poor execution" i'm almost certain they mean they just don't like their style/hate dave's voice. they're pretty objectively fantastic musicians
― ethan PADGY (k3vin k.), Friday, 22 January 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, this is a retarded thing to say
― plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 22 January 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link
how do u ppl live w/yourselves is what i want 2 know
― Lamp, Friday, 22 January 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link
<3
― plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 22 January 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link
the phoenix album tries to do a bit of baba o'reilly-ish symphonic rock but its the breakfast club shuffle of lisztomania that works best.
― Michael B, Friday, 22 January 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link
― Crackle Box, Friday, January 22, 2010 6:14 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― samosa gibreel, Friday, January 22, 2010 8:16 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
otfm
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 22 January 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Suggest Ban Permalinklol waiting for someone, anyone other than me to stick up for grizz bear― call all destroyer, Friday, January 22, 2010 10:09 AM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark
― call all destroyer, Friday, January 22, 2010 10:09 AM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark
i love grizzly bear!
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 22 January 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link
didn't like veck as much as yellow house tho
but Anco and GrizzBear were the only two GAPDY albums to make my Top 100 of 2009 (#19 and #84, respectively)
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 22 January 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link
i didn't know they would be your kinda thing whiney--but i'm glad!
― call all destroyer, Friday, 22 January 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't really understand how the xx didn't get stuck in this acronym, but DAPYG for me
― een, Friday, 22 January 2010 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link
― Michael B, Friday, January 22, 2010 9:46 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark
i literally laughed at "breakfast club shuffle"
― een, Friday, 22 January 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc5Sm4iRtxs
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 January 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link
the xx are really aesthetically different from the others, if you don't get that idk what to tell u
― k3vin k., Friday, 22 January 2010 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link
they're all pretty aesthetically different from each other
― when I met you last night, baby, before you opened up your GAPDY (The Reverend), Saturday, 23 January 2010 02:58 (fourteen years ago) link
dave's voice
this is the #1 reason why bitte orca sux
― when I met you last night, baby, before you opened up your GAPDY (The Reverend), Saturday, 23 January 2010 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link
it's love it or hate it i guess, it's one of my favorite voices in indie
― k3vin k., Saturday, 23 January 2010 03:00 (fourteen years ago) link