Classic or Dud: U2

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Why does "The Edge" still wear a knit cap? Has that officially become "his thing"?

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

U2 is classic.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

Why does "The Edge" still wear a knit cap? Has that officially become "his thing"?
Covers his bald spot.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)

Dud.

Matt McEver (mattmc387), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 03:44 (twenty years ago)

Classic, although there is always at least one dud track per album, often a ham-fisted attempt at soul or gospel whose title ends in a preposition, e.g. "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" or "Stuck in a Moment You Can't Get Out Of."

Zooropa remains their best album, and a largely unappreciated precursor to the likes of Kid A (Wake me up when Thom Yorke writes a song as good as "Lemon"), but I quite like their last two retro-80s efforts as well.

John Hunter, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 04:11 (twenty years ago)


that song on the new ipod commercial (original of the species?)is fucking GOD AWFUL.

that said, I put on "Pop" for the first time in a long, long while at work today and I have to say I really enjoyed it. I liked U2 a lot more in high school, ive kinda grown out of it, but both Auchtung Baby and Pop are classics in my mind, fuck all the haters.

JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 05:36 (twenty years ago)

"Zooropa remains their best album, and a largely unappreciated precursor to the likes of Kid A"

and achtung is a precursor to OK Computer. hmm, come to think of it Zoo Station and Airbag are similar in a lot of ways. never thought of that till now.

not that I love u2 by any means, I just love that album. it's that "ham-fisted attempt at soul or gospel whose title ends in a preposition" that's probably what gets me more than anything. and the pompousness that goes with it.

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

U2 is the only band I've ever publicly renounced (in the late 80's). I got flak for that from most of my friends and haven't done anything like that since.

"You can't forget or cancel something you genuinely liked at some point", I was told. But for U2, I could. DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUD

blunt (blunt), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

I still have my old vinyl copy of Boy I bought when it was first released in the states and every so often that opening to "I Will Follow" sounds just as thrilling as it did then. I saw them on the tour for October and at the time I thought they were one of the greatest bands in the world.

20+ years later, I'd change that to "they *could* be one of the greatest bands ever, but post-Zooropa (which is the only other U2 album I listen to all the way through) they seem to be content just doing the same thing and load up the albums with one song for the old fans, one oddball song, and another overblown ballad which is their equivalent to an Aerosmith soundtrack theme.

Anyway, both classic AND dud simultaneously.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

classic probably -particularly in the old stuff and when they went super disco on that one album. i also think bono is just kinda cool interesting perfect rocker type. and remember when he was young and had those thick juicy thighs? i can still see him prancing around with that flag at red rocks. but zero desire to listen to them.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

both classic AND dud simultaneously

This is probably the closest to the truth of all of the responses to this question.

John Hunter, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

Clud.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

seven months pass...
U2 in the 80s: classic
U2 in the 90s and 00s: dud

I'll always love "I Will Follow."

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 05:06 (nineteen years ago)

I'm another one where U2 were my favourite band at high school, so I'm betraying my 15 year-old self if I say Dud.

Ah well, fuck you 15 yr old Tom, you're too skinny anyway. DUD.

winter testing (winter testing), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

I bought the "Fire" double single, very good.

I heard "Gloria" subsequently, and went off them.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 09:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not a big fan either. Like many others, I loved War way back when, and I still like a few tracks on that album (Drowning Man has always been my favourite), but I rarely actively queue them up when listing to tunes.

As for Bono's political activism, personally I find him annoying, but I'm easily able to put that annoyance aside because his efforts certainly have helped many people around the world, and my personal opinions are pretty tiny and selfish compared to that. I can't stand Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt either, but they're still doing great things, even if it's partially to improve their image (which I'm not claiming, but is certainly possible). We do have to remember that despite the fact that these folks have lived pampered lives, they've also had the opportunity to see horrible things that most of us haven't, and that's bound to affect anyone who still has the smallest degree of humanity.

shorty (shorty), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

Hated them when I first saw in a Presbyterian hall in Sutton - as 'the Hype' - in 1978, covering Dancing in the Moonlight and Peaches; hated them when i saw them in Sheriff St. - then a slum, now 'Docklands' - open air in 1983(?) where Paul did the following intro to Gloria;' though your houses may be falling down, though your children may be strung out on heroin ....(and more) i have one word to say to you; rejoice' , Hate the way they destroyed any independent critical thought here - long before the negativeland thing, they sued and closed the Irish fanzine 'Heat' ..... Hating U2 is one of the ways I check I'm alive .....

sonofstan (sonofstan), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.metaphoria.us/FlagPatriotism/Bono_with_flagliner.jpg

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

No Line On The Horizon

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/music/newsid_7832000/7832748.stm

album track titles:

The full track listing is:

1. No Line On The Horizon

2. Magnificent

3. Moment of Surrender

4. Unknown Caller

5. I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight

6. Get On Your Boots

7. Stand Up Comedy

8. Fez - Being Born

9. White As Snow

10. Breathe

11. Cedars Of Lebanon

djmartian, Friday, 16 January 2009 12:41 (seventeen years ago)

"Cedars of Lebanon" Bono's contribution to peace in the Middle East?

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Friday, 16 January 2009 12:45 (seventeen years ago)

I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight

^^^ Must be the Garth Brooks collab.

"Two Ears" Laybelle (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 January 2009 12:46 (seventeen years ago)

bono has compared the U2 sound as being influenced by trance, Led Zep and Moroccan music

back in december 2007

People will “feel the difference” when they hear the new U2 album, Bono tells The Independent. The album will find the Irish rockers taking on trance, metal and Moroccan influences. “Normally when you play a U2 tune, it clears the dance floor. And that may not be true of this. There’s some trance influences,” says Bono, forgetting his band’s own Pop album. “It’s not like anything we’ve ever done before, and we don’t think it sounds like anything anyone else has done either.” According to Bono, guitarist The Edge has “real molten metal” coming from his guitar, and that the band has recorded enough material to fit two CDs.

2009

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/a140783/u2-album-inspired-by-led-zep-jack-white.html

Speaking to Rolling Stone, the guitarist said that he is a big fan of Led Zeppelin's Jimmy Page and recently contributed to the documentary It Might Get Loud with the legendary musician.

"I was just fascinated with seeing how Jimmy played those riffs so simply, and with Jack as well," said The Edge.

The new album is said to include blues rock tracks, with the first single expected to be 'Get On Your Boots'.

Bono commented: "There's some very hardcore guitar coming out of The Edge. Real molten metal."

djmartian, Friday, 16 January 2009 12:57 (seventeen years ago)

Please tell me that 'Stand Up Comedy' is a spoken word interlude.

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Friday, 16 January 2009 13:01 (seventeen years ago)

At last Larry gets to shine!

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Friday, 16 January 2009 13:02 (seventeen years ago)

Fez - Being Born - this must be the Moroccan track

djmartian, Friday, 16 January 2009 13:04 (seventeen years ago)

Fez

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fes
is the fourth largest city in Morocco, after Casablanca, Rabat and Marrakech with a population of 946,815 (2004 census). It is the capital of the Fès-Boulemane Region.

djmartian, Friday, 16 January 2009 13:05 (seventeen years ago)

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/azou7/TommyCooper-1.jpg

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Friday, 16 January 2009 13:09 (seventeen years ago)

just like that

djmartian, Friday, 16 January 2009 13:10 (seventeen years ago)

Just when I thought our cherished Martian comedy was gone for good, it's back. Incongruous painstaking revival of a U2 thread, with pasted information about North Africa? What next?

the pinefox, Saturday, 17 January 2009 14:10 (seventeen years ago)

jesus this album sounds bad. trance blues....shudder.

Local Garda, Saturday, 17 January 2009 14:23 (seventeen years ago)

tho haven't u2 always been influenced by trance?? or indeed influencing it? it's no coincidence that Paul Oakenfold used to play "Where The Streets Have No Name" or that that "Take Me To The Skies" above record used the bassline from "With Or Without You"

Local Garda, Saturday, 17 January 2009 14:25 (seventeen years ago)

the new single gets premiered on alex zanes xfm show this monday apparently.

uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 17 January 2009 14:39 (seventeen years ago)

Once, when I was with my then girlfriend, U2 came on the radio, and I said

I loathe U2

and she said

You loathe me?

GamalielRatsey, Saturday, 17 January 2009 14:49 (seventeen years ago)

lol

Local Garda, Saturday, 17 January 2009 14:58 (seventeen years ago)

There are bands I love more, but I don't think there's a band I love more that's hated more by people whose opinions I respect.

That said, it took me seeing them live after the last album (my first U2 concert) for me to become a full-on, high-school-era-level believer again.

Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 17 January 2009 20:42 (seventeen years ago)

(I.e. back when I wore a "U2 - Boy" t-shirt and my classmates would go "You, too, boy!")

Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 17 January 2009 20:43 (seventeen years ago)

So I humbly retract this review:

http://www.citypages.com/2005-01-05/music/sunday-boring-sunday/

Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 17 January 2009 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

I like people who are passionate about early U2. Cheers.

Shoegazey Goth Metal Phone (Bimble), Saturday, 17 January 2009 21:27 (seventeen years ago)

three weeks pass...

The U2 effect

http://www.boredrevolution.com/?p=34

Michael B, Thursday, 12 February 2009 15:22 (seventeen years ago)

Coldplay, however, released two beautiful records of everyday heartbreak and insecurities

No.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 February 2009 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

and they were both singles...

Mark G, Thursday, 12 February 2009 15:38 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.spotify.com/go/20090223-u2-excl-preview-guardian

the pinefox, Monday, 23 February 2009 14:58 (seventeen years ago)

Coldplay, however, released two beautiful records of everyday heartbreak and insecurities

Fixed!

ilxor, Monday, 23 February 2009 16:00 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

recent sets: http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/u2/2011/angel-stadium-anaheim-ca-63d31217.html
suggest Glastonbury is going to be amazing. they deserve it after so much bile's been aimed at them these last years. people randomly hating on U2's career just because Bono is up his own arse is just the worst criticism of music ever.

DL otm here http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jun/19/u2-headline-glastonbury-debate

"Here's the world's most successful live band moving outside their comfort zone and needing to prove themselves to an audience that could go either way. However it goes down, that should be something to see."

piscesx, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 07:13 (fourteen years ago)

i'm with DL as well.

wondering if this will give them a way to cut back on the excess of the recent glass spider tour, and declare a rediscovered love of back to basics gigs ..

[i mean, surely they are not bringing the spider contraption to G ? ]

mark e, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 07:31 (fourteen years ago)

i'm american, so glastonbury doesn't mean much to me, but DL OTM. few things more tiresome than knee-jerk U2 hate.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 07:59 (fourteen years ago)

that said, i spent years hating them for the negativland "U2" business, so...

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 08:00 (fourteen years ago)

three months pass...

cant figure out the thread that the recent Achtung Bay docu has been given some love on, so dropping on this one.
tis fascinating to see the band so riddled with doubt during their rattle & hum era.
i would have thought by that stage they had their thing locked down.
and the fact they believed they believed that they didn't have enough material for a stadium (as opposed to arena) shows despite the fact they were several albums into their career.
other than that, its a great watch .. loved the section re the breakdown of bands ("bought out", "snuck out" etc)
so many good quotes ..

mark e, Friday, 14 October 2011 22:23 (fourteen years ago)

of course : bay = baby

mark e, Friday, 14 October 2011 22:24 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

October is by far the best Christian rock record ever made. In all seriousness, it's an incredibly overlooked record, both in their catalog and overall. (This was brought to light in a recent discussion with a self-professed "huge U2 fan" who had never even heard it.) The urgent, devastating, soaring guitar solo in "Tomorrow"? Edge's guitar work overall? Bono is his usual strident self, but there's a lot less chest-beating than on the overrated War, and the whole band is tighter, more singular, and more focused than on Boy. It's a strange and captivating record, and I wonder if any ILMers have visited it lately.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 17 October 2012 22:56 (thirteen years ago)


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