― Tyler W (tylerw), Monday, 15 January 2007 19:24 (nineteen years ago)
Tyler's link above is well worth looking at. The obit and article quoted above are a bit prosaic, aren't they?
Links to more writing on Alice Coltrane, or more obituaries, would be welcome, if anyone has any.
I listened to Eternity again last night, not having heard it for ages, and Om Supreme (which is just piano and voices) is wonderful. For someone completely anti-religious, I find stuff like this really powerful and affecting. I even love the sleeve notes, which in any other context I would dismiss as complete crap.
― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:39 (nineteen years ago)
Jamie, I agree with you that the religious aspect of her music is not at all off-putting. It might sound a little wacky at times (to a nonbeliever), but it's never anything less than totally welcoming. Her spirituality comes across as a really individual, invigorating thing--like the best gospel music, I suppose.
― Tyler W (tylerw), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:47 (nineteen years ago)
Well do I remember Bobby Gillespie getting into trouble because he tried to exchange his milk tokens for a copy of A Monastic Trio on the day of its release. He got a good skelpin'!
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Turangalila (Salvador), Thursday, 18 January 2007 04:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 18 January 2007 05:00 (nineteen years ago)
― Daniel Paton (angriest dog), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:05 (nineteen years ago)
― Tyler W (tylerw), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:26 (nineteen years ago)
She played a lot around Detroit before the Gibbs band, but her daughter Michelle (who I also got to meet when they were here) said that recording oppt'y was rare for a woman with a small child. Yusef Lateef (who she played with here) used to drive to NY to record and turn around & drive right back. Usually 5 guys in an Econoline van. No room for momma & baby, really.
We are so glad we got to see her play last September. We thought she'd be around a lot longer, but you never know.
A Monastic Trio is probably my favorite.
― J Arthur Rank (Quin Tillian), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:50 (nineteen years ago)
I bought "Elements" based on the recommendations on this thread, and I'm really enjoying it: the semi-slow hypnotic groove, the freeish but soulful playing, the echo and tape effects... Are there any other Henderson or Alice Coltrane LPs that would sound like this? I already have "Journey to Satchidananda".
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 11:27 (eighteen years ago)
I can't speak to Henderson's records from this time, but "Elements" isn't really a typical Alice set. However, I would recommend any of her albums as worth hearing. But if you're looking for the next one you should get, seek "Ptah the El Daoud" which features Joe H and Pharoah Sanders as a double tenor front line.
― Sparkle Motion, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 23:19 (eighteen years ago)
maybe check out 'Lawrence of Newark' by Larry Young.
― jaxon, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 23:27 (eighteen years ago)
or Herbie's "Mwandishi"
Mwandishi is an excellent suggestion--the 2 disc CD is a bargain.
― Sparkle Motion, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 05:59 (eighteen years ago)
I already have Crossings and Sextant, and I've been meaning to get Mwandishi for years... That Larry Young album sounds very interesting too, I think I'll check that one and Ptah the El Daoud when I visit the local jazz store next time. Thanks for the recommendations!
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)
You may also wish to get Eddie Henderson's "Anthonology Vol.2", which contains the albums "Realization" and "Inside Out". The lineup is more or less the same as on Mwandishi, if I remember correctly. You may want to look at the kozmigroov a-list. Recently I've dusted off a few of these (after my initial kozmi-kick in 2003 or so) and been particularly fond of Don Cherry's "Brown Rice".
I suppose Pharoah Sanders' albums are probably the best next bet after Alice Coltrane, if you haven't got those already.
― Øystein, Thursday, 6 December 2007 11:38 (eighteen years ago)
I would always turn off Ptah after 10 minutes because I felt like it wasn't going anywhere, and because it was all listed as one track I just assumed it was 40 minutes riffing on the same idea.
Imagine my surprise this week when I let it play to the 12th minute.
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 this record now
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 8 February 2009 07:55 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=140743198&m=140701953^^^ alice's piano jazz interview/peformance. really great.
― tylerw, Friday, 23 September 2011 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
wow, just got to the bit where she's jamming a Chopin prelude, beautiful playing.
― zappi, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
Is there any way to download that? Besides recording it?
― elan, Saturday, 24 September 2011 16:24 (fourteen years ago)
this is where i first got it -- link still works! http://ileoxumare.blogspot.com/2008/03/marian-mcpartlands-piano-jazz-with.html
― tylerw, Saturday, 24 September 2011 18:55 (fourteen years ago)
Thanks!!!!
― elan, Saturday, 24 September 2011 20:39 (fourteen years ago)
been jamming the cassette-only divine songs from 1987 and it is blowing my mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvliDHTvxTQ
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Monday, 30 December 2013 22:19 (twelve years ago)
someone told me there is an LP of this album floating around -- is it a bootleg or something? they should really put out this stuff in more readily available form, it is very good.
― tylerw, Monday, 30 December 2013 22:25 (twelve years ago)
Laura Veirs pays tribute on her (awesome) new album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyEOt-qjNH0
― a fifth of misty beethoven (cryptosicko), Monday, 30 December 2013 22:30 (twelve years ago)
xp discogs says divine songs got a cd release, and a recent unofficial lp release.
― fit and working again, Monday, 30 December 2013 23:45 (twelve years ago)
yeah I heard abt the vinyl boot, didn't know abt the CD
either way this is quickly becoming one of my faves by her, on some kinda cosmic-stax/volt-moroder trip over here
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 01:05 (twelve years ago)
cd reissue please
― the late great, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 01:57 (twelve years ago)
According to this blog post, there are actually four devotional releases.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 02:29 (twelve years ago)
Active link to the first of them, "Turiya Sings," imo the best thing she ever did:
http://rootstrata.com/rootblog/?p=4463
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 02:31 (twelve years ago)
HOLD THE PRESSES
http://www.innerpath.com/divine-songs-cd/
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 06:45 (twelve years ago)
They have this one too...I wonder if they take Paypal?http://www.innerpath.com/infinite-chants-cd/
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 11:40 (twelve years ago)
they do! but it's out of stock
ordered a copy of divine songs before you vultures have a chance to make it disappear
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 15:30 (twelve years ago)
divine songs out of stock now as well
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 20:53 (twelve years ago)
guilty as charged ;)
― sleeve, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 21:07 (twelve years ago)
My copies have already shipped...
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 21:11 (twelve years ago)
mine too, krishna is totally on top of the logistics over there
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 21:24 (twelve years ago)
wonder if they're meditating on the origins of this sudden surge in turiyasangitananda demand
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 21:27 (twelve years ago)
never really investigated the post-impulse period before. looks like there was a devotional-style release on warners in '76 called radha-krsna nama sankirtana... which is actually on spotify....
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 22:54 (twelve years ago)
yah i used to have that on LP, kinda wish I still did
― sleeve, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 22:59 (twelve years ago)
in general I prefer harp to Rhodes, though
I really like that piano thing she did as a radio broadcast too
― sleeve, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 23:00 (twelve years ago)
radha-krsna nama sankirtana
B side of this is kind of an awesome organs/drums duet with Alice and one of her sons.
― RID US OF SPACE BORES (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 05:58 (twelve years ago)
yeah the marian mcpartland radio thing kills, giant steps duet is heavenly
― mustread guy (schlump), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 06:40 (twelve years ago)
btw I can't link it right now but googling for the tape above led me to a blog with a mix called Saved from the fire compiling some of these releases, which sounds good so far
― mustread guy (schlump), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 06:42 (twelve years ago)
anybody care to re-up that radio piano thing
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 08:10 (twelve years ago)
I tweeted that a month or so agohttp://www.npr.org/2011/09/23/140743198/alice-coltrane-on-piano-jazz
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 16:35 (twelve years ago)
thx man... when I clicked on the previous NPR link it looked like it had disappeared...
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 16:42 (twelve years ago)
here's a link to the saved from a fire devotional mix schlump mentioned
http://dublab.com/rbma-radio-saved-from-the-fire-the-ashram-tapes-of-alice-coltrane-by-frosty/
but it really just scratches the surface and lacks some of the more jaw-dropping moments from these albums IMO
lost in a turiyasangitananda k-hole rn
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 16:47 (twelve years ago)
looks like there was a devotional-style release on warners in '76 called radha-krsna nama sankirtana
I have that on CD (on the Wounded Bird label). This guy right here. It's really good.
― Austin, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 17:02 (twelve years ago)
I adore those super obscure Alice things from the 80s, too, would love to own them! They are a real revelation.
I think the first side of that Radha-Krsna thing one is pretty great/uplifting and the second side jam is incredibly bad... easily the worst thing she ever touched, mostly because John's son is a terrible drummer! That 2xcd live thing Transfiguration is 100x better if you want to hear her wailing away endlessly like that. Her wonderful John-imitation with the electric organ is front and center in the mix and sometimes comes uncannily close to his sound.
I recently got a 1970's McCoy Tyner album (Extensions, I think) where she is prominently playing harp which I had never heard of before and that's pretty amazing stuff, too!!! Highly recommended.
― liam fennell, Thursday, 2 January 2014 13:33 (twelve years ago)