Do we have a PAZZ AND JOB 2009 thread yet?

and wavves, wow, wtf from one of my fav critics

This might be a dumb question, but how much of Pazz and Jop does the Village Voice include in the print version? Do they print all of the ballots they received, just the names of those who contributed to the poll, neither, something else entirely?

They have a print edition? (Haven't been to NYC in a couple years.)

usually they print the results, comments, essays and a list of the voters (not their ballots -- that's an online-only feature).

Cool. Would someone mind grabbing a copy and sending one to me in the mail? If it's no trouble, of course. It's kind of silly, but it's a real kick to have my name printed in the Village Voice.

THE FACT I WAS THE ONLY ONE TO VOTE FOR "GUTTER MUSIC" (Starkey featuring Durrty Goodz) IS SHAME, SHAME, SHAME ON THE ENTIRE WORLD.

Do they not automatically send you a copy of the print edition anymore? I guess they probably don't in this economy.

idk how "empire state of mind" became the year's critically coalesced huge pop single & not "blame it"

anyone who thinks the former is better is obv retarded but i'd guess it has something to do w/ the stars, jay & alicia are way safer rockcrit picks

it's almost as if people were looking for another signature song about fuckin' new york

I don't for a second understand why non-NYers can begin to give a shit about that song.

dude, that song is a fucking tourist trap. my mind is blown that any New Yorker thinks of it as anything but corny garbage

Voting "Empire State Of Mind" is like getting your picture sketched in Times Square

Yeah, as I said elsewhere, it's a chart-topping pop song featuring two well-regarded personalities that became a minor cultural phenomenon and that most everybody seems to like, or at least not mind too much.

whiney otm

smh @ this http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/critics/2009/1519966

a vote for 'empire state of mind' is a vote for a-rod. THINK ABOUT THAT.

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looks like schnipper slept on music in 2009

Do they not automatically send you a copy of the print edition anymore? I guess they probably don't in this economy.

― Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:40 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think u can just request it tho

smh @ this http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/critics/2009/1519966

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:47 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

coincidentally his videotaped interview with project pat is one of my least favorite things of the year

yeah i'm sure there's plenty of writers w/ better taste who'd like to actually vote in this thing, thanks for playing matthew schippner & that goof who voted for thriller or whatever

xp lol maura

Shit, I might've voted for "Empire State of Mind," if I'd voted this year. Jay-Z is kind of terrible on it (he sounds out of breath most of the time), but that hook is pretty damn unstoppable. Plus, I've got a soft spot for hip-hop that samples old soul songs, and there's not enough of it on the radio these days.

ethan p posted 'for fucks sake' im assuming re: the election results -- i thought about making a joke abt it being pazz & jop related but just settled on kent brockman's 'democracy simply doesn't work' which could also apply here

(on facebook)

hey i found some more of schnipper's ballots

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/news_cut/lizardpeopleb.jpg

11 of the top 13 LPs and five of the top six singles are shared between this and the Pitchfork list. fwiw.

dude, that song is a fucking tourist trap. my mind is blown that any New Yorker thinks of it as anything but corny garbage

Voting "Empire State Of Mind" is like getting your picture sketched in Times Square

― forksclovetoFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU- (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:46 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ok, I can buy this. My disinterest (beyond being annoyed at mediocrity from an artist I've liked a lot in the past) probably boils down to the fact that I've never been to or particularly cared about going to New York.

http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/critics/2009/686073

Hahahahahahahahhahaahha.

amazing

I noticed DJ/Rupture voting for himself, too.

Ten favorite albums? What's an album?

Steve Ciabattoni
Brooklyn, NY

in which year was this comment cryogenically frozen

I still maintain that people wouldn't care about OB4CL2 any more than The Lex Diamond Story if it weren't for the title.

i can't wait for Purple Haze 2 to be the only rap album in the top 10 of Pazz and Jop 2018

Well, Rodney, I certainly agree that the Dre beats are BRICKS. They're terrible. I've actually had people try and defend them to me.

Does the 2003 long list still exist somewhere so I can see how many votes Raekwon's last (relatively equal in quality) album garnered?

this is better than lex diamond story

hes been on fire for awhile though, anyone who copped mixtapes he was dropping in like '06 knew he had this in him. i believe i even *pats self on back* wrote about it in '06

Rev, your super-challopy argument about raekwon is fucking stupid and it would have done just as well if he called it "CRANK DAT RAEKWON" because it's a dope album and lex diamond was crap

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Reverend: http://web.archive.org/web/20040221181050/http://www.villagevoice.com/specials/pazznjop/03/

If it's anywhere, it'd probably be there?

whiney is that a note of triumph in your voice from the critical cabal around gucci mane u predicted

Those who know me have heard the story a dozen times apiece. When the Strokes still played clubs right after Is This It? came out, I stood in the front row at the Casbah and got biffed in the bean by Julian Casablancas's microphone stand, producing an impressive golf-ball-size knot. Between the head injury and the revelation of hearing "Barely Legal" for the first time, I fell in love on the spot with what became one of my five favorite bands of the decade. Phrazes for the Young is the first time since Room on Fire that I felt a tingle in that phantom spot on my forehead.

Jennifer C. Cooke
Chula Vista, CA

someone needed to inform this woman that the head is not the #1 body part associated with the word "bean"

I personally would've loved if he titled it CRANK DAT RAEKWON.
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The kids would've loved it.

deej: good point about him having been killing it for a while prior, but I don't think it really translated to the album

gucci would have been higher if dude didn't split his vote between 17 mixtapes

with no critical on which was the best

My disinterest (beyond being annoyed at mediocrity from an artist I've liked a lot in the past) probably boils down to the fact that I've never been to or particularly cared about going to New York.

The NYC boosterism has nothing to do with why I like it.

oh come on. do i have to go in & count how many people voted for him?

as far as i can tell, two of his mixtapes got votes, and his one album. also, one random dude voted for a mixtape from 2008. i doubt there were even 12 ppl voting for gucci long players

xxxp to whiney

What works for me is that "Empire State of Mind" could conceivably be about ANY mega metropolis, EVEN with the very NY-specific references and such. Plus, the emotions it conjures aren't exclusive to NY. Any city you love makes you feel like that.

its a good song bcuz of alicia but it never really resonated w/ me in a big way. i think its an odd #1