is the Keir referenced in those notes the same one who did Inch with Mark E Smith?
― journey to the center of fat butt (electricsound), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link
I have the reissue of Obey The Time that includes the Together mix, tis great gear.
― Radio Birdman Rally (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link
"Kiss of Def" is totes awes as well.
― Radio Birdman Rally (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Sucked into listening to DC again. Thanks thread! Anyway, I see that Durutti Column did a live session on BBC radio this week.
http://www.thedurutticolumn.com/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/b00c72y1/console
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 03:19 (fourteen years ago) link
shit! except that's the wrong iplayer link. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/b00c72y1/thursday/console
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 03:22 (fourteen years ago) link
why don't people just recommend circuses and bread when they recommend dc to newbies? it's got everything and more. and its a perfect starting point.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link
^that's my next fave after the first 2.
― journey to the center of fat butt (electricsound), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Did LTM reissue Obey the Time? I only have the vinyl on Benelux. Is it worth buying for the bonus tracks? I should keep up with LTM more.
― Jacob Sanders, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 03:45 (fourteen years ago) link
afaik 'obey the time', 'time was gigantic' and 'sex & death' are out of print, but all of them are easy to find s/hand
― journey to the center of fat butt (electricsound), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link
actually i've just realised pretty much all their factory stuff post-C&B is only floating about in factory once/too form
― journey to the center of fat butt (electricsound), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 03:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Hotel Of The Lake 1990 has been one of the songs I've started many dj set with. Maybe my favorite of his.
― Jacob Sanders, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link
why am I the only person who thinks Another Setting is by far the best?
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 05:34 (fourteen years ago) link
actually "time was gigantic" is pretty difficult to get secondhand... unless you want to pay a ton of cash for it. same is true for the factory CD reissue of "without mercy" and the limited CD reissues of "live at the venue london" and "amigos em portugal." however, a lot of the other factory reissues like "return of..." and "LC" can be had for bargain prices even brand new. same is true for his post-nineties stuff... all readily available.
a dozen great tracks to sample from a variety of albums, in no particular order:
1. "the missing boy" from LC - the chorus of this song breaks my heart every time2. "conduct" from the return of... - on headphones this song can still make me walk into trees at the park at around the two minute mark3. "street fight/royal infirmary" from bread and circuses (reissue is called circuses and bread, but is the same) - he's the best guitarist in the world maybe, but when combined with such piano, he is devastating. i love how this song only really gives you the chorus once, forcing you to relisten to the whole track4. "the together mix" - available on the obey the time reissue, i think, originally a 12"? - 90s happy mondays-like thing, looped vocal a la tom's diner, fantastic5. "vigil" from somebody else's party - never heard a song that better expressed how it feels when someone close to you dies, maybe my favorite song by him ever6. "shooting" from tempus fugit - tony wilson thinks he should never sing, but i can't imagine the durutti column without vocal tracks like this one. he's a bit like new order, the lyrics are sometimes utterly childish, you can see the rhymes coming from miles away, but then he'll amaze you with it7. "love song on quattro" from tempus fugit - he does a lot of spanish guitar sounding stuff like this these days, and i think it's great.8. "silent nite" from the return of the sporadic recordings - eerie, lady singing, snowing probably9. "spent time" from another setting - i don't like this album, but it's got good stuff on it, they all do10. "never known" from LC and "never known version" from sunlight to blue... - he loves to do certain songs over and over again. "shooting" up there at #6 is another version of "longsight romance" from rebellion.
Perhaps it'd be good to start with these three albums to get a good sampling: LC, Vini Reilly, and Someone Else's Party?
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 09:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I left out a lot from that list, too... I don't even own Sex and Death or Time was Gigantic. Oh yeah, probably best to avoid "Love in the Time of Recession" and "Rebellion" to begin with. Not saying they aren't good, just not a good intro.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 09:10 (fourteen years ago) link
thanks for the tips good ppls
now the problem is that the list of starting point suggestions is almost as large as the back catalogue
― Karen Tregaskin, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 11:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Hi everyone! Please help me! Could anybody put here the lyrics of song "Vigil"? I would really appreciate it!!! Thanks in advance!
Robert from Hungary
― figurehead, Thursday, 11 November 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Curiously, Someone Else's Party is one of the few DC albums I don't own.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 11 November 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link
The new '4 Men w/ Beards' reissue of LC doesn't include 'For Belgian Friends', anyone know why this is?
― coolsundays, Thursday, 11 November 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link
It wasn't on the original release either. It was a single released on Crepescule or whatever, iirc. Maybe they didn't get the rights. What is on that reissue? Why not just get the Factory Too reissue?
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 11 November 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link
what is the purpose of the 4MWB re-issue, is the kooky box not good enough?
― the barenaked ladies are the roaring night (electricsound), Thursday, 11 November 2010 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link
http://pantry.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/for-belgian-friends/
says it was released between albums.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 11 November 2010 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link
For Mimi, For Belgian Friends and Self-Portrait were on the A Factory Quartet double LP along with Kevin Hewick, Blurt and the Royal Family and the Poor.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 11 November 2010 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Ok, Robert From Hungary, here's my stab at the lyrics. Interesting song. I can't make them all out but this is a good bit of it.
Vigil
put some sounds in the walkmanand take a walk aroundand i have never heardsuch an emptiness in sound
theres a screaming tight?their rockets on stretching?make myself a drinktake a sip start watching
even though the hurdles smokeon an isolation tripforce myself to eatbut i know i'm getting sick
i came here like a partnerready for a fightdrown my lovers coffeeand settle for the night
? over broken peopleforetelling their own deathslistened in the darknessto someone fighting for her breath
compressed air is hissinghissing in the wingi don't believe in anythingbut i'm praying for a friend
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 11 November 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link
put some sounds in the walkmantake a walk aroundand I have never heardsuch an intumescent(?) sound
nerves are screaming tightthe rack (rot?) keeps on stretchingmake myself a drinktake a sip, start retching
given up the herbal smokeon an isolation tripforce myself to eatbut I know I'm getting sick
I came in like a hard manready for a fightdrank my lover's(?) coffeeand settled for the night
(?) with broken peopleforetelling their own deathslistening in the darknessto someone fighting for her breath
compressed air is hissingpissing in the windI don't believe in anythingbut I'm praying for a friend
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 12 November 2010 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks both of you (brotherlovesdub and the girl from spirea x (f. hazel))! :) Keep on living the spirit! All the best, Robert
― figurehead, Friday, 12 November 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link
"otis" has turned up on a few mixes i've listened to lately and i'm smitten. at least one version has had drum machines under it. are there remixes out there or was the dj doing this?
― jaxon, Friday, 12 November 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link
For your hacienda party, you should check out the Together Mix, which Jeremy turned me onto just in time for Fac Off.
― dan selzer, Friday, 12 November 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link
there was a great mix of Otis and another track on bbc radio done for Tony Wilson I think. Can't remember who/what/when but I know it was great. :)
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 12 November 2010 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link
ya, if this is what you're talking about, this is what i heard it onhttp://www.resonatormag.com/2007/09/10/tony-wilson-tribute-mix
dan, which mix?
― jaxon, Friday, 12 November 2010 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link
o, i know what you're talking about, this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSpLcTXGkso
― jaxon, Friday, 12 November 2010 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link
This thread inspired me to put on the 2cd career-spanning comp I've got for our dinner party last night. No one commented but I sure enjoyed it, especially "Sing To Me" with the gorgeous guest vocals.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 13 November 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Yea, it inspired me to play DC stuff too. Circuses and Bread is terrific and Another Setting is just about perfect.
― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 13 November 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link
One more request please... :-)
I would be really glad if someone shared the lyrics of "Tuesday"... Another favorite song of mine. Thanks!!!
Robert
― figurehead, Friday, 26 November 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyone?
― figurehead, Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't have Tuesday in my iTunes. What album is it on?
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I started transcribing Tomorrow, which is one of my favs, but realized that wasn't what you wanted. The lyrics are pretty clear on Tomorrow anyway.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Ah, ok, it's on Keep Breathing. I have that one on CD but haven't ripped it yet.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Tuesday - Keep Breathing - 2006
I don't mind who you're waking with this morningit's not the ...? sounds that i hear callingno senselessness of waking dreams still formingit's just the fight is overi know you've gone
i still feel youi can feel youi can feel youi still feel you
so i get up, i get on with my dayand i'm not broken upi don't wishand i don't prayand if we metthere'd be nothing there to sayit's just i wishi'd tried to make you stay
i don't wake upexpect to see your smileand i don't mindyou've gone so many milesand i hope that you've kept your sense of stylei just still love youso it's gonna take a while
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Tomorrow is definitely one of my faves. I've even got the 12".
― dan selzer, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Thank you very much brotherlovesdub! Anyway, You're right, the lyrics are basically clear, but there were some parts I couldn't figure out exactly... So thank you! Magical song...
― figurehead, Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link
classic btw
― Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link
"I don't mind who you're waking with this morningit's not the _shocking_ sounds that i hear calling..."
Maybe...
― figurehead, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link
whenever i see this thread updated, i think bimble is back. and in a way he is.
― alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Christ, he had a stroke and I didn't even hear about it. Lost use of his left hand, among other things. Still has a new album coming out though!
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 05:40 (twelve years ago) link
I only own the 2CD best-of but I may spring for more starting with this deluxe reissue of LC: http://home.wxs.nl/~frankbri/fbn10.html
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 03:43 (eleven years ago) link
awes
― site nuances (electricsound), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 03:57 (eleven years ago) link
GREAT. And I like Another Setting even better.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 04:00 (eleven years ago) link
His catalog is so frustrating - bonus tracks on some releases but not on the box set of the first four albums! And no odds and ends comp that gathers it all up. "Amigos" is way out of print and goes for stupid money. I really hope LTM's release is the start of a proper reissue campaign.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 04:14 (eleven years ago) link
yes. Another Setting! thanks dan for reminding me about that record!
― nerve_pylon, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 04:18 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah it's a bit messy. I had most of Amigos as tacked onto the Factory CD of Another Setting, then only years later did I realize it wasn't the whole thing and there was a separate full Amigos that I downloaded from iTunes.
A lot of the bonus stuff on this LC, I think I have on vinyl. I went through a phase where I was really avoiding "record collecting" except for buying old dance 12"s but I'd go to the WFMU record fair and only buy Durutti Column vinyl.
My prized possessions are my two Factory cassetes of DC that I bought in high school at Crazy Rhythms in Montclair, NJ. Without Mercy and Another Setting. As seen here:
http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=808623
I already had the Valuable Passages CD, which I later leant to someone who lost it, though I found it on vinyl years later. But that tape of Another Setting was a regular in my car for the better part of junior and senior year of high school.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 04:32 (eleven years ago) link