'Marquee Moon' LP is overrated

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if people rate amon tobin so highly in public, what are they hiding?

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 13 October 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

Dadaismus r u drinking tizer today?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 13 October 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

Straight no chaser

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

jed you don't understand how the system works. Let me explain on rym you can add people as either friends [public] or favorites [private]

for the 200 list, obviously when i'm logged in I can see the combined ratings of friends and favorites.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 13 October 2006 11:04 (nineteen years ago)

Love Will Tear Us Apart [7"] Joy Division is NOT AN ALBUM

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

i know !

as rym chief, sharifi notes: in changes/ updates
http://tinyurl.com/y62t9h

2) Any type of release (EP, single, etc) can be bold (recommended) now.

so that probably goes for the top 200 list

notice it is titled:
Your Contacts: Top 200

most are albums though

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 13 October 2006 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

I have to say I grew up with this on vinyl & I prefer the fade-out version of MM to the longer one

Doesn't everyone?

not i. i got MM on vinyl about 12 years ago, when i started at college, loved it to death. didn't even know there was an extra minute or so on the CD till it got rereleased a couple of years back, and the end bit totally blows my mind (tho i see why people would prefer the fade)

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

Why do you not prefer the fade?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

i like the endy bit! you don't hear that on the fade version!

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

on cd it fades, no? it tails off, then starts again (drums), then fades?

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

Doesn't fade

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

Only on the cheap version.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

i bought the cd before the expensive version came out -- and until recently i wasn't enough of a sadcase to re-buy records when they got the louderizer treatment.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

I only know it doesn't fade because they've got it on the jukebox in The Swimmer

― Diddumsismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

So in other words it's the politics of envy because you don't get paid enough to be able to afford to buy the superior edition (xpost).

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Or to drink in The Swimmer instead of the Hercules just up the road

― Diddumsismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

that's really odd, enrique. a friend bought the original CD of marquee moon a while ago and that has the extended ending too (the recent rerelease had a couple of nice out-takes too, nothing essenital tho, but alternate takes of 'mm' and 'see no evil' with pretty radically different guitar parts)

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

nothing essential tho

er, "Little Johnny Jewel" as bonus track?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

So in other words it's the politics of envy because you don't get paid enough to be able to afford to buy the superior edition (xpost).
-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...), October 13th, 2006.

um ok.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

shit, forgot abt johnny jewel (tho i already had that somewhere else), was referring to the previously-unreleased out-takes.

'elevation' messes with my head every time, the jarring guitar 'thrang' after "come go to my head" - always sounds like there's a scratch on the record somehow.

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i used my nhs salary to get the original pressing of 'little johnny jewel' -- why would i need to get it again on pissant compact disc?

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

I used my pocket money to get the original pressing of "Little Johnny Jewel" - 49p out of Listen Records, Renfield Street, March 1977.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

You're beginning to sound like Bobby Gillespie, Marcello

― Diddumsismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Bobby Gillespie didn't buy it because he was saving up his pocket money to go and see the Quo at the Apollo.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

I heard he was playing with the Quo that night

― Diddumsismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

He tried but they told him to go away and try for a job in the Dead End Kids.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

What I heard was that the Quo's tour bus went round to his house but his dad had to tell them that he was down the park playing football with Jimmy Johnstone and George Best

― Diddumsismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Summary:

Fade is on the LP and the 12" single.

Ending is on all CDs.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

i'm *SURE* my pisspoor cd has fade. SURE!

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

go check!

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

What's a thrusting Thatcherkid doing with old-fashioned CDs GRANDAD?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

i will check maybe, on sunday.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

how does the non-fade ending end?

like "cha-cha-cha"

or with a big explosion?

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

With a whimper, it's totally shite

― Diddumsismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

how do you tell a whimper from a fade?

unless it literally ends with a whimper.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

It just ends like any other shit rock song instead of fading out just as its starting up again leading you to imagine it as a musical Moebius strip playing infinitely

― Diddumsismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Well, there is that.

But, there was the one time you expect it to fade and it doesn't, to a rousing crescendo, and the Moebius strip finally ends (it ran from 1977 to 1993 or thereabouts)

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

this album is not as good as people claim, imho

― richard wood johnson (rwj), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

too much pointless repetitive guitar noodling imo. that album bores me to death and kind of annoys me. i like tom verlaine's voice and the sound of his guitar though.

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

00.00: song starts
08:43: spacey bit starts
09:17: spacey bit ends
09:18: drums come back in
09:31: guitars come back in
09:38: vocals come back in
10:28: end chord struck
10:40: song ends

― benrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

Now doesn't that sound good?

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 07:50 (nineteen years ago)

No it doesn't. It should fade soon after:

09:38: vocals come back in

― Diddumsismus (Dada), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 07:58 (nineteen years ago)

o now i c.

i take your point, the fade isn't a bad idea. i don't really mind that much though -- not enough to spunk for the remaster just yet anyway.

― benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 08:01 (nineteen years ago)

seven years pass...

i was a fool not to listen to this whole album after 'marquee moon' took hold

― j., Sunday, 6 April 2014 19:56 (twelve years ago)

cool thread title

― markers, Sunday, 6 April 2014 19:57 (twelve years ago)

and yes you were but i'm glad you came around

― markers, Sunday, 6 April 2014 19:57 (twelve years ago)

This is basically the Beatles' "Taxman" extended to album-length.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 6 April 2014 20:00 (twelve years ago)

'torn curtain' is kind of a drag tho

― j., Sunday, 6 April 2014 20:10 (twelve years ago)

The Blow Up vs. Live at the Waldorf?

― Mark, Sunday, 6 April 2014 20:17 (twelve years ago)

I'd personally go with the Waldorf set. It's vastly better recorded, and while the Blow Up might have slightly more firey playing, the sound is distant to the point that it blunts the impact of the music.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:49 (twelve years ago)

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