No ghosts?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:25 (sixteen years ago)
only the ghost of future present
― moron oil (Gukbe), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:26 (sixteen years ago)
"taking the sounds of club culture and R&B and reconfiguring them as ghosts drowning into a black hole."
surely it's VAMPIRES that are drowning OUT OF a black hole? maybe my stereo channels are reversed?
― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:28 (sixteen years ago)
that's Lupe Fiasco
― moron oil (Gukbe), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:29 (sixteen years ago)
yep, it's awesome. Best lines: Paul Wall bit, and lighting matches bit
xposts
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:30 (sixteen years ago)
No, it's like in the Daft Punk "Digital Love" review. You are emerging from slumber in a dream-land where the music is inside-out, a negative image of the dance track you're itching for it to become, and you have to recall your dream and will it into life and watch it explode into color.
xxpost
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:30 (sixteen years ago)
Stewart Voegtlin left doomed forever (the old southern lord board) in a huff because people liked mastodon there. People still laugh about him over there and on the rolling metal thread here too after is godawful village voice piece.
― Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:35 (sixteen years ago)
Nick, I don't know if this is a bug but on the singles list, section 40-21 there isn't a link to the top 20, only to go back to 60-41. I had to guess and type the url directly.
― one boob is free with one (daavid), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:37 (sixteen years ago)
The Stylus piece has so many instances of offTM, unnecessary bitterness as to be insane.
He did give Nilsson an extra 11 years of life though. I wonder if he made any more records in that time?
― Michael Jones, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:39 (sixteen years ago)
...same with albums list.
― one boob is free with one (daavid), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:42 (sixteen years ago)
What happened to the Hold Steady's Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea album?? You guys had second thoughts? I thought the votes were tallied and finalized...
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:44 (sixteen years ago)
90% of these "reviews" are just awful. but i guess that doesn't make it any different than music criticism in general. john's are ok.
I hope you didn't feel like you had to add that at the end just because you know me.
― Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:46 (sixteen years ago)
hah, i only scanned the mike powell essay so far, but in general i like his approach and he has pretty similar taste to me in a lot of stuff so. i mean there's never a sense that he's some jaded guy sick of the hype machine, he just seems happier to ignore the crtical climate's silliness and just hunt for great sounds
― plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:49 (sixteen years ago)
Stewart Voegtlin seems like a deeply fucked up person imo
― A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:58 (sixteen years ago)
what on earth?
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:59 (sixteen years ago)
he's a murderer imo
― A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:01 (sixteen years ago)
collaborates w/bin laden iirc
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
― exploding angel vagina (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:03 (sixteen years ago)
zapruder film enhancement captures Stewart Voegtlin passing envelope full of cash to the umbrella man. more champagne!
― A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:04 (sixteen years ago)
Voegtlin piece pretty good imo.
― moron oil (Gukbe), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:09 (sixteen years ago)
his metal article in the voice was *terrible*, jeanne fury's response piece was otm
― A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:14 (sixteen years ago)
^^^this
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:16 (sixteen years ago)
I wonder, if 'Stylus' continues after this brief revival - what would they call it? Because I doubt Todd Burns would let them use Stylus. Will it Stytwo? Stylu? Laser?
― sacredselections, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:35 (sixteen years ago)
Pencil
― ah ah oh ooh ooh oh ah ah ah ah ah oh ah ah aha ooh (HI DERE), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:36 (sixteen years ago)
Haha, what the fuck is Voegtlin's problem?
― A. Begrand, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:37 (sixteen years ago)
dude it's not his fault if you wrote about the worst music of 2008 -_-
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:38 (sixteen years ago)
Mostly thanks to dope-smoking, Patagonia-wearing Republicans, Mastodon’s still recording records and making money from ‘em.
I just think this particular line needed to be called out again. Dude is fucking horrible.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:39 (sixteen years ago)
its okay if u 4get that all those words refer to bands bourrousian even
― plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:41 (sixteen years ago)
man, i love powell's essay. i'm not sure why i find him so agreeable and readable when 99% of music criticism pisses me off.
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:42 (sixteen years ago)
anyway yeah SV sounds a little o_O
― A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:43 (sixteen years ago)
agreeable is a good word, dude is obv not an ilxor tbh
― plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:43 (sixteen years ago)
maybe that's part of it, he never comes off like a dick, even when he doesn't like stuff
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:44 (sixteen years ago)
but also he has this really quietly personal way of writing abt stuff in general
this is by no means the first time ive repped for this here, but this is i think my favourite piece of writing ever
http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/weekly_article/basic-research-lovely-music-ltd-and-the-universe-in-general.htm
― plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:49 (sixteen years ago)
its the only one i've saved as a doc on my laptop in case stylus goes down eventually anyway
― plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:50 (sixteen years ago)
voegtler on baroness ws hand-wringing of the worst kind and jeanne fury set him straight; haven't read his stylus thing but will do now
― cozwn, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:52 (sixteen years ago)
stick around to the finish and read about how he pwns harry connick jr and gets in a whitney houston zing (on the wrong end of the decade)
― A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:57 (sixteen years ago)
haha this arsehole is still butthurt about Mastodon all those years. This guy is the worst "writer" in the world. Anyone who employs him must be desperate.
― Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:05 (sixteen years ago)
*after
ok "Ante Up" in top 20 all is forgiven
― The Reverend, Friday, January 8, 2010 3:34 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
xp after reading the blurb, I take that back
― The Reverend, Friday, January 8, 2010 3:38 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
pretty much every dan weiss blurb in this list was painful
― total eclipse of the shart (J0rdan S.), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:05 (sixteen years ago)
he mentions mastodon 5 times, lol
― A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:08 (sixteen years ago)
I wish the SL archives could be accessed.
― Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:08 (sixteen years ago)
What was his issue with Mastodon? From how tight he is holding onto this grudge I can only imagine they banged his girlfriend and his grandma.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:15 (sixteen years ago)
hipsters like them
― cozwn, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:15 (sixteen years ago)
never bothered to listen to mastadon rly but <3 it when critics have chips on their shoulders
― moron oil (Gukbe), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:16 (sixteen years ago)
He thinks hipsters like them so gets all troo metal elitist about it.In "troo metal" cretin circles it's very hip to hate Mastodon, Isis, Sunno))), Pelican, Wittr,Boris,Torche or indeed any band that "outsiders" like.
― Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:23 (sixteen years ago)
But it's funny that this guy has been peddling this shit on message boards since at least leviathan came out yet some people are stupid enough to pay him for it.
― Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:25 (sixteen years ago)
mastodon do suck tho
― Isambard Kingdom Buñuel (jim in glasgow), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:29 (sixteen years ago)
RONG
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:34 (sixteen years ago)
Maybe the sentence seems a little excessive and awkwardly constructed in hindsight, but I'm still a little confused as to why people are harping on this one sentence I wrote. I know I’m coming across like a sock (and furthermore, I know I don’t contribute enough to the discussion; I don't really have the time), but all I was trying to do was convey what I think Burial does sonically, which is that he often clips R&B vocals and makes them sound spectral. That ghostliness doesn’t characterize the emotional effect enough—-to me it sounds more like drowning, but into some sort of vast emptiness. The visualization of the sound itself is what I was trying to express. Because in the end I’m trying to explain why the music produces a certain kind of emotional response, which I take it from some of the reactions here I failed to do.
Burial’s music tends to have a wearied, bottomed-out sound that happens to affect me in a certain way. My comment about R&B was only meant to indicate that the music just doesn’t hit that synapse quite the way Burial’s does. But that wasn’t meant to be a negative interpretation of R&B or its pervasiveness; if anything, I was trying to express how R&B’s ubiquity is a testament to the consistently high quality of the music. With the amount of space we were given, however (more than usual, yes, but still not enough in some ways), I was trying to pack in as much information as possible.
The people that write for Stylus, like many of the people on this board (and many people on this board wrote there), feel very strongly about the music they love. It’s understandable to me why people may go a little over-the-top when trying to express why music is so meaningful to them. Understandably, those tendencies occasionally need to be put in check—-but overall, I really didn’t think any of it was any worse than many other decade-end features.
(Someone upthread said that they feel like a lot of music writers can be really condescending--some of the time I agree. I wasn't trying to be smug or condescending in the blurb or in this response; ribbing and insults can be helpful in tamping someone's weaker habits in writing.)
― talrose, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:39 (sixteen years ago)
hey, why stop with mastodon when there are these choice lines!
A band named Isis releases a record called, SGN>05, which is binary code for, “Years from now you’ll be loved by kids who own all the complete seasons of Scrubs on DVD and consider phone sex an ‘edgy activity.’”
Britney Spears marries the first guy she gave a handjob, viz. Jason Allen Alexander, tuggin’ 2004 on off. Marriage annulled 48 hours later.
Bjork, whom I’d like to give a handjob, puts out a record of beat-boxing
Mariah Carey wins a bunch of Grammys in ’06 but doesn’t mention the Coca-Cola flavored dildo in any of her ramblin’ man acceptance speeches.
Chan Marshall isn’t so Joy Division anymore. Instead she’s playing with Dave Grohl and Eddie Vedder and making songs that only serve to anger her Republican fan-base.
Stephen Malkmus continues to look “too UVA” and make records no one but class-conscious enthusiasts could make out to.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:03 (sixteen years ago)