"4:13 Dream" by the Cure

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Will this be "Pornography" part 4 or are they finally doing something more poppy and uplifting again after two (missed) depressive albums?

After all they haven't been able to come up with a good "dark" album since..... "Pornography".....

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 27 October 2007 01:06 (eighteen years ago)

In my somewhat outspoken opinion, they haven't been able to come up with a truly, truly brilliant album since (or before) Pornography. Plenty of very good stuff, sure, but nothing else they've done touches that record's genius (with the possible exception of The Top).

Just got offed, Saturday, 27 October 2007 01:10 (eighteen years ago)

Are they planning to ever finish the reissue series? It's been well over a year since the last batch of releases...

Telephone thing, Saturday, 27 October 2007 02:37 (eighteen years ago)

Geir doesn't like Disintegration? It's tuneful.

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 28 October 2007 03:46 (eighteen years ago)

I'm guessing he doesn't like the long songs.

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 28 October 2007 03:46 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

Time to change this thread's title. Laters rumor is that this will come out on 31 March and will have 33 songs.

baaderonixx, Friday, 1 February 2008 09:12 (eighteen years ago)

I am more interested in the remasters. Because, yes, I kind of like "Disintegration" even though it would have been better had it been trimmed by 10-15 minutes. Plus I still only have those three as burned copies and I will not buy the proper CDs before I have the remasteres.
But I don't like "Disintegration" as much as the earlier stuff, or Cure's more poppy later stuff.

Obviously looking more forward to the "Wish" remaster.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 1 February 2008 09:49 (eighteen years ago)

It struck me when I got the Cure Hits DVD for the kids (and me) that they haven't had an all conquering pop hit since "Friday I'm in Love" and at the time you would never have thought it would have 'ended there'.

I guess the 'media' changed so much, there were other fine singles but the radio stopped playing them.

So, what to expect? This long gestation period never bodes well for most artistes.

Yeah, make the "8" up there!

Mark G, Friday, 1 February 2008 10:04 (eighteen years ago)

What happened is that they haven't released a pop album since "Wild Mood Swings", which landed in the middle of the Britpop boom and suddenly they seemed like the previous generation. The guitar/song oriented audiences didn't need them anymore, as they had Blur, Oasis, Pulp and Suede instead.

After that, they have been very much revalued and are seen as a very important act today. But those "dark" last couple of albums have lacked obvious hits.

Had it been on "Wish", then "Mint Car" would have been just as huge as "High" and "Friday I'm In Love". It's the same kind of song, after all.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 1 February 2008 10:26 (eighteen years ago)

I thought it was because "WMS" wasn't good enough! (I never heard it so can't say for certain)

If it had been, the guitar/song oriented audiences would have bought it also: There was no great "year Zero" about Britpop (in fact blimey, far from it!)

Mark G, Friday, 1 February 2008 10:29 (eighteen years ago)

I have to agree with Geir here. WMS did have IMO one of their finest pop singles, "The 13th"

baaderonixx, Friday, 1 February 2008 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

i just don't like the overly-jubilant robert smith. as witnessed on 'mint car', 'the 13th', a couple of tracks on kiss me etc.
the japanese whispers singles are awesome though

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 10 April 2008 09:01 (eighteen years ago)

Japanese Whispers
Chinese Whispers
Chinese Democracy

I thangyew.

Mark G, Thursday, 10 April 2008 09:21 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

New single is out on May 13th. 4 singles to be released over the next 4 months.

baaderonixx, Sunday, 27 April 2008 10:02 (eighteen years ago)

waht

HI DERE, Sunday, 27 April 2008 10:41 (eighteen years ago)

from COF:

May 13th - The Only One (mix 13) + Ny Trip (CD, 7", Digital Download)
June 13th - Single #2 (mix 13) + new b-side (CD, 7", Digital Download)
July 13th - Single #3 (mix 13) + new b-side (CD, 7", Digital Download)
August 13th - Single #4 (mix 13) + new b-side (CD, 7", Digital Download)

Also, the the first single will come with a collector's box that will house all 4 of the singles. There will be a separate box for the cds and the 7" vinyl singles. If you were around for the Wish era, you'll remember that they did the same thing with the High single.

baaderonixx, Sunday, 27 April 2008 11:02 (eighteen years ago)

Such teases.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 April 2008 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

mutiple pastic single releases in boxes, such a 90's thing to do!

akm, Sunday, 27 April 2008 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

Things not mentioned here yet are that the album itself comes out in September and that the single mixes will be different from the album versions.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 April 2008 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

also not mentioned: whether it will be any good or not

akm, Sunday, 27 April 2008 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

I want to believe etc.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 April 2008 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

I for one am excited

baaderonixx, Sunday, 27 April 2008 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

and yes the collectors box is totally 90's and totally awesome

baaderonixx, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

http://bp0.blogger.com/_5LP1Yi4Xov4/SBGppL9JiDI/AAAAAAAAADo/JzfDo6USgJg/s1600-h/cdinsert1.jpg

baaderonixx, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

and yes the collectors box is totally 90's and totally awesome

it's true

billstevejim, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

i've still got that HIGH box somewhere. my friend and me almost drove all the way to liverpool to watch the premiere of the HIGH video too, in HMV, as there wasn't one near where we lived. man i wouldn't even click a YOU TUBE link for the new video these days.

pisces, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

About time with a new album, but I am kind of just as interested in the last bunch of the remasters. "Disintegration" is in a lot of discount campaigns here, so I guess it's just a matter of time now.

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

the single mixes will be different from the album versions.

more likely that they're just 3-4 minute 7" versions of 7-8 minute album cuts than that they're especially different mix-wise tho? especially if they're still doing the "label mix"/"Robert mix" dual-formatting of the album.

energy flash gordon, Monday, 28 April 2008 01:47 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, that 'High' video viewing.. Went to that. Got the box (with the balloon). As I say upthread, "Friday I'm in Love" was their last decent 'hit' single, as in "didn't just sell to rabid/rabbit Cure fans"

So, maybe they're trying to get that back with the boxset thing.

Wasn't there something about the album coming in a 'one disc' version for the record company, and a 'deluxe' 2 disc version for Robert?

Mark G, Monday, 28 April 2008 09:20 (eighteen years ago)

that waas the original plan, yes. I still think this will only come out as a regular single album.

baaderonixx, Monday, 28 April 2008 09:33 (eighteen years ago)

Hmm.. The 'announcement' is due for today, so maybe it is that 'double'.

Mark G, Monday, 28 April 2008 09:43 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Going to the Boston show tonight (Dan P - you going?) The set lists from the previous two shows are incredible. I'm so excited!

ENBB, Monday, 12 May 2008 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, I am going!!! ^_^ Super-excited!

We ended up with floor tickets, row P; how about you?

HI DERE, Monday, 12 May 2008 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

New songs are sounding very good so far!

baaderonixx, Monday, 12 May 2008 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

We're in 106 row E which I'm a little nervous is going to suck but have no idea since I've never been to AA before. It won't matter that much though because it's going to be awesome wherever we're stting!

ENBB, Monday, 12 May 2008 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

Three weeks to go to the Hollywood Bowl show. Can't wait!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 May 2008 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

baader, where are you finding the new songs?

HI DERE, Monday, 12 May 2008 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

I've only seen them once before and that was 12 or 14 years ago and L never has. One of the three (!!) encores they played last week was four songs all from Seventeen Seconds. When I read it to him over the phone earlier today I heard him gasp - ha. The tickets were part of my 1st anniversary present (paper) to him. :-) I have a feeling it's going to be pretty great.

ENBB, Monday, 12 May 2008 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

Very nice. Not seen them since 2000 since that whole festival thing in 2004 was non-fascinating -- gotta be full-on long sets or nothing with them.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 May 2008 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

I'll be hitting the Chicago show this Saturday, very very excited as I've never seen them live before.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 12 May 2008 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

I also haven't seen them since 2000. AM VERY EXCITED

HI DERE, Monday, 12 May 2008 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

I haven't seen them since '85. they were decent then tho

J0hn D., Monday, 12 May 2008 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

I am trying to get my sis to get me a ticket for Charlotte. No other show could get me this excited at this point in time.

wanko ergo sum, Monday, 12 May 2008 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

They were beyond awesome in '98.

HI DERE, Monday, 12 May 2008 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

You saw the 1998 tour? At the small venues? Damn I'm jealous.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 May 2008 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

I am wearing a long-sleeved t-shirt from that tour right now! lol u mad

HI DERE, Monday, 12 May 2008 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

FUCK YES I'M MAD

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 May 2008 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

lol

HI DERE, Monday, 12 May 2008 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

or rather, post-Lol

HI DERE, Monday, 12 May 2008 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.chaindlk.com/interviews/images/Levinhurst/Levinhurst_pic.jpg

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 May 2008 20:39 (eighteen years ago)


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