longish SFJ piece on Timba and Neps in NY Times Magazine

Regardless, I'd put that on your Timbaland shopping list.

Feel like putting the tracklisting of your Timbaland singles on your blog - I've been meaning to do my own boxset for a while.

X-post x 4

Vol. 1
1. Aaliyah – Are You That Somebody?
2. Tim & Magoo – Clock Strikes 12
3. Ginuwine – Pony (Remix)
4. Aaliyah – Hot Like Fire
5. Ludacris – Fat Rabbit
6. Aaliyah – Try Again
7. Ginuwine – (Actually I forget which song I put on here.)
8. Tim & Magoo – Up Jumps Da Boogie
9. Tim & Magoo feat. Jay-Z – Lobster & Scrimp
10. Jay-Z – Nigga What, Nigga Who
11. Timbaland & Magoo - Roll Out
12. Aaliyah – One In A Million

Vol. 2
1. Missy – She’s A Bitch
2. The Lox – Ride or Die Chick
3. Ginuwine – Final Warning
4. Jay-Z – Snoopy Track
5. Memphis Bleek – Is That Yo Chick?
6. Missy – Hit Em Wit Da Hee (Remix)
7. Jay-Z – Big Pimpin
8. Nas – You Owe Me
9. Total – What the Dealio?
10. Tim & Magoo – Love To Love You
11. Playa – Don’t Stop The Music
12. Aaliyah – 4 Page Letter

Vol. 3
1. Bubba Sparxx – Twerk A Little
2. Jay-Z – Hola Hovito
3. Ludacris – Roll Out
4. Missy – Whatcha Gonna Do?
5. Bubba Sparxx – Bubba Talk
6. Tweet – Oops, Oh My
7. Missy – The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)
8. Jay-Z – It's Hot (Some Like It Hot)
9. Missy – Get Ur Freak On
10. Aaliyah - If Your Girl Only Knew
11. Tim & Mag – Indian Carpet
12. Aaliyah – More Than A Woman

here's what been added in the interim

Vol. 4
1. Bubba Sparxxx - Ugly
2. Missy Elliot - Work It
3. Timbaland & Magoo - Drop
4. Missy Elliot - 4 My People
5. Justin Timberlake - Cry Me A River
6. Bubba Sparxxx - Deliverance
7. Aaliyah - Are You That Somebody?
8. Missy Elliot feat. Ludacris - Gossip Folks
9. Miss Jade - Big Head
10. Jay-Z - Hey Papi
11. Lil Kim - The Jump Off
12. Mad Skillz - Together

Vol. 5

1. Missy Elliot feat. Jay-Z - Wake Up
2. Jay-Z - Dirt Off Your Shoulder
3. Cee-lo - I'll Be Around
4. Bubba Sparxxx - Jimmy Mathis
5. Jay-Z - 2 Many Hoes
6. Pastor Troy - Are We Cuttin?
7. Petey Pablo - Raise Up
8. Tim & Mag - Cop That Shit
9. Missy Elliot - Beep Me 911
10. Nicole Wray - Make It Hot
11. Bubba Sparxxx - Comin Round
12. Petey Pablo feat. Bubba Sparxxx - The Gun Line

I wonder is SFJ was able to get away with such a large article due to heavy guilt/catch up from big media. - but yes harass SFJ for the uncut twice as long essay to be put on his blog (or at least a comment on how many changes were made - and who initiated the article NYT or SFJ).

And "Good Girl" was good too.

The other great and almost exclusively Timbaland produced album is 100% Ginuwine, which is frequently amazing and is also a really nice summation of all of Tim's original bag of tricks.

Tim is otm in his Geir-like reference to melody (I'm just playin'). For me, '03 Tim was about the tracks he did for Bubba and Kiley, which prize melodies, instrumental touches, genre-jumping/blending and (in the latter artists's case) harmonies and singing skills (hell, even the 'Deliverance' hook is very cool), esp. over his beat weirdness and general flights of fancy - and let's be real, after the years he's put in, he can't suprise and/or interest with those forever. Obv the Missy record has some worthy stuff too, but he really meant it about giving the two Beat Clubbers some of his best work. He also still has that "one or two decent tracks with Magoo per album" mojo going - 'Indian Flute' is good - not earth-rocking, but still mondo enjoyable.

Also otm is the observation about the Neps' hit'n'miss ratio - last year I tallied about 6 Tim tracks to about 4 Neps in an imaginary top 82 singles I wrote at work - this sin't a big diff, but the Tim tracks were consistently high too - 'Gossip Folks' was 1= (the other was 'No Good Advice') and 'Cry Me A River' is still better than 'Rock Your Body'.

my opinion is that timbaland is an amazing producer... his unpredictable drum patterns have brought him success with the likes of aaliyah,missy, luda, and jay z. ( in the club is my favorite tim beat of all time).. i think that tim though, works best with certain people. ( the ones i just mentioned) its just like the magic quincy jones possessed when working with mj..

i just don't think that he is in anyway better than chad and pharrell though... their resume has a variety of artists in many genre's ( dancehall, hip hop, r&b, alternative, pop).. hell.. even the rolling stones...

yeah, tim has a bigger list of hits.. or classics at the moment... he did have at a headstart of at least 2 years...

i think the reason that i like the neptunes better... i prefer their simple minmalistic, yet bass-driven, catchy hook tracks, better than tims sometimes overshadowing beats which can make some of his produced-songs sound confusing...

another issue with tim... is that he isn't fully responsible for all his beats.. some of the songs you mentioned... cry me a river was co produced by scott storch.. a lot of the missy songs were co produced by her... the article even mentions static playing a role in the melody of Are you that somebody.. these songs are all amazing... but i don't think of cry me a river as a timbaland beat... it is a tim/storch beat ( storch plays the keyboard which is my favorite component of that particular beat).. yes the neptunes are 2 people but there are a lot of single producers who don't co produce ( swizz, premier, rockwilder, just blaze)..

there is a lot more points that i have.. but i hope that people can reply to my post.

What?! The best bit of that beat is the fact that it sounds like someone's brushing their teeth over the top.