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I wish the Dixie Chicks had attacked the country audience and the industry more - more vehemently, more specifically, more articulately - and I could list a whole bunch of things I wish they'd said, but big deal, it wouldn't surprise you what I have to say on the subject. But I asked a question upthread that's a lot more interesting to me, because I don't know the answer and some of you might have a better feel for it than I do. The question is this:

Was part of the Chicks' broad appeal from the get-go - I mean, not from the get-go get-go, but from when they sacked Laura in favor of Natalie and went major label - that they didn't quite seem country, that they represented something more edgy and glamorous? And might not a mainstream country fan be excited by this difference and simultaneously wary of their going too far? So what excites the fan is also what primes the fan to turn on the Chicks; the fan is looking for and expecting the Chicks to eventually just be too different, so the fan is waiting for the Chicks to reveal themselves as "not one of us."

Is there anything to this?

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 06:06 (twenty years ago)

this artsy video style (reminds me of supposedly great but actually irritating old '90s ones by Pearl Jam and R.E.M. as well

The "Not Ready To Make Nice" video owes a lot to the "Losing My Religion" video, I think.

John Hunter, Thursday, 1 June 2006 06:31 (twenty years ago)

'that they didn't quite seem country [I would think they were seen as MORE 'pure country' than a lot of 1998 acts, e.g., Shania], that they represented something more edgy and glamorous [visually appealing, absolutely, but not threateningly glamorous; spunky maybe, but not a threat], no? And might not a mainstream country fan be excited by this difference and simultaneously wary of their going too far [Going too far in what way? Crossing over musically? I think the fan is long used to those ambitions from female superstars. I really doubt there was much wariness of any kind.] So what excites the fan is also what primes the fan to turn on the Chicks; the fan is looking for and expecting the Chicks to eventually just be too different, so the fan is waiting for the Chicks to reveal themselves as "not one of us." [I think Natalie has always said she was not a big country fan growing up and no one seemed to care. If you mean not one of us politically or patriotically, I don't think that was foreseen.]

Sure they had an image makeover, but I think the broad appeal from from the Natalie get go is Natalie's voice. She just has an appealing voice. I really don't see any clues from the material of mass success OR future controversy although maybe a Bonnie Raitt cover says something. Bonnie is one of the queens of the nebulous audience they now seem to covet. I think turning on them is entirely from what Natalie said and they continue to say and not from their music. With sexism not helping of course. Martie only wants people who 'get it'. What was there to get? Anyone could get their music and they obviously did. And now no one can get their new video and I bet that makes them happy because they obviously want to be taken seriously. I'm happy to take them seriously as people but if they get too serious in their art that might not be such a good thing.

Carlos Keith (Buck_Wilde), Thursday, 1 June 2006 08:11 (twenty years ago)

Is there anything to this?

Not anymore or at least right now. Larry King/The Chicks were mind-numbing. If you were thinking of buying the CD, I certainly didn't have to after sitting through an hour of them. Wrote up what I scribbled on here while watching, added some more jokes and threw it on the blog.

I'm can't take them seriously since they're so obviously executing a script. Everytime I hear their music, the current shtick is superimposed on it.

George 'the Animal' Steele, Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:59 (twenty years ago)

But George, it seems like you're blaming the Chicks entirely, as though Natalie's Bush dig was a calculated PR move to hit up the AA audience and ditch Country radio. Maybe I'm misreading you, but if the Chick have really lost a significant country audience--which I can't say I've necessarily seen evidence for--it's as much the response of country radio and Toby Keith as it is any "script" they're "executing."

max (maxreax), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:03 (twenty years ago)

I gotta go get the latest N-ville Scene, because there are some upset folks writing letters there about Michael McCall's Dixie Chix piece. I'll post that in a few. For me, the Chix were always all about being "real musicians," like when you saw them they were playing the banjo and so forth, and they seemed sort of cooly inbetween "amateur" i.e. "they're just chicks but they actually play!!" and professional (a certain kind of sexiness, glamour, as is pointed out above, not that I actually find them sexy too much myself, but I'm sure many do). I don't see that they have all that much to do with "race," in fact I don't really see how much Nashville itself, as a concept and as a city, has to do with it.

Has anyone checked sales figures for the new Chix? How much of their audience have they lost, I wonder, and shit, seems like they might've gained some? And yeah, they often sound like they're reading off a script, they all do it here.

So, came away from Blaine Larsen's new "Rockin' You Tonight" feeling some of the fun had been sucked out of the enterprise. Boy, I had forgotten just how spare, humorous and subtly subversive that first record of his was. Because it was a series of demos (one of them is actually Larsen in his barn overdubbing himself), it just sounds fresher than the new one. Which interconnects, thematically, with the first one, in interesting ways. But the opener, the hit "I Don't Know What She Said," is far less interesting than "Off to Join"'s "I've Been in Mexico" (where the point of the song is that he's taken a vacation down there, has come back to work relaxed, and therefore isn't a stressed-out mess like his boss--therefore, this song works into his theme of "becoming a man" while playing off his young-man's slight, slight, sane rebellion).

And the same pretty much goes for the whole thing. "I'm in Love with a Married Woman" and "Spoken Like a Man" work as a pairing on marriage, what it means to be a "real man" and be in a good marriage; but "I'm in Love" is a lame-ass joke. "Spoken" is far better; what Blaine is good at is playing it cool, letting his fucking great voice carry it, as on this tale of a guy who refuses to discuss his fucking with the other guys, admires the good-lookin' Coyote wannabe at the bar but who, like the young Vito Corleone in "Godfather 2," only has eyes for his wife. Very good song.

"Someone Is Me" is one of those let's-pick-up-our-trash and tip-waitresses-well songs that substitue individual action for political action, right? Blaine is looked at funny when he prays at a diner on some mythical Main Street, and sees weeds choking the ol' baseball field. So, someone is me, let's go cut weeds and make the world better. I mean, I pick up trash and I tip good, but you need an army of similar-minded people to turn the world around. This kind of thing wastes his talent.

"Lips of a Bottle" is really good, though, a 6/8 ballad that uses those cool false endings, kinda greasy or at least stained, a classic country song. And a duet with Gretchen, and shit, Blaine should become like one of those eternal duet guys, get some Melba Montgomery-soundalike, or do like George and just marry Gretchen Wilson or something.

"I Don't Wanna Work That Hard" is analagous to the first record's "Yessireebob," about playing it cool and wanting to transcend class by getting a job that doesn't require too much ass-kissing, one that (as in "Yessiree") might involve a little towel-holding for a half-naked girl on the Cozumel beach. These are interesting songs that get at class in real interesting ways. And careerism, and how to become a "man" if you will...in short, this guy, to my ears, really has talent and could be a major figure, because he's got a fantastic voice with real shadings and nuance, but this standard-issue Nashville songwriting only halfway gets him there.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:10 (twenty years ago)

I thought Natalie Maines was sexy when she weighed more. Now that she's a hot and edgy woman who dresses in black, eh.

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I'm assuming, too, that Cowboy Troy's co-hosting of the amateur pro country singer talent search didn't help him saleswise. I didn't watch all of it but I never heard them play his music. They did play
Big & Rich's and the commercial featuring "Coming To Your City" ran all the time.

George 'the Animal' Steele, Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:36 (twenty years ago)

"How is oountry less stable" I see/hear (music, online, call-ins to radio shows) fans arguing with themselves, basically, re How Dare You (I) say anything so negative, no matter how fucked up (War, Katrina, affordable health care, etc etc)True,the identity crisis/comflict is ongoing, as I mentioned before, but at the moment, and for the past couple of years, especially. (Despite the fact that, as Frank suspects, I did hear some folks say that Chicks had long been a joke in Nashville before Natalie, and they were bound to fuck up again, to prove they were girlybrained outsiders, though this of course isn't nec a matter of just waiting for them to Go Too Far, but xpost the celebrity strawman thing, that certainly applies to culture police of country, as elsewhere) "Anybody seen current Chicks sales figures" Today, a Reuters report by Dean Goodman ("Dixie Chicks Bush-whacked at record stores) says, yes, they're "No. 1 on the U.S. charts Wednesday with their first studio album since then, but sales were sharply lower. Taking The Long Way sold 525,000 copies in the week ended May 28, according to tracking firm Nielsen SoundScan. The figure ranks as one of the biggest openings of the year, and exceeds industry expectations by more than 100,000 copies. But it plaed against the 780,000 copies that their last studio releasse, Home, sold during its first week in August 2002. It spent three weeks at No. 1, and has sold 5.8 copies to date. In April another country trio, Rascal Flatts, opened at No. 1 with 722,000 copies of its new album. The lower sales for the new Dixie Chicks album were not unexpected (but remember, he said they were expected to sell 100,000 less than they have)...new single has stalled at No. 36 on Billboard's Hot Country chart."(surprised got that far) So, a *soft* No.1. (hey xxhuxx, I sent you their publicist addy last night; mebbe our promos'll turn up,now that the album's out)Meanwhile, nothing I'd read about Oakley Hall really gave me the impression I got from listening:"country rock," okay, but not the usual execution: right away, the "Mr. Soul" guitar bursts extended into good electrified fence, all along the range, uphill and down (good dynamics); with fe vocals becoming more prominent, then she sings lead, with (also) pysch-associated organ; "House Carpenter," like Fairport, a bit, except just when I expected the guitars to come back(cued by "These hills are hellfire"), like with a buckskin raga? No BAM it's the drums BAM at the door

don, Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:16 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand the necessity of sympathy for an act that debuts at #1 and only sells over half a million records in a week. Hey, maybe Natalie can right a tour column for the Nation or the Huffington Post.

Leanne Kingwell, on the other hand, sent me mail that indicates her ballad "More" was number 7 on the US college chart.

George 'the Animal' Steele, Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:28 (twenty years ago)

shit, they've sold a lotta records, seems like to me. the chix.

so, in the N-ville Scene this week, letters, jeff pitcher writes that michael mccall shares a sentiment with one of those right-wing am-radio guys who lambasted the chix for their failure to appreciate how hard he was trying to forgive them. pitcher says "I never liked them--I thought they were this decade's Mary Chapin Carpenter (huh? is that a good analogy?). Despite substantial presence, skill and talent, I found them a tokenit, fake-edgy act allowed into the mix to 'prove' that country's power brokers really don't regulate the content's POV as rigidly as they in fact do...'Earl' was a phony-assed piece of cutesy crap that reeked of being written on a computer in Green Hills (upper-middle class mall-land of SW Nashville)....I deeply respect these gals (gals) for publicly refusing to make nice with the troglodytes who crushed their CDs with tractors in a bizarre Dogpatch-Jesus-hadi version of an Islamist bookburning. I don't even care if the record's any good." He then closes by saying that if mccall had had his writings burned as have the chix, mccall'd see why the chix should not back down.

reading mccall's piece again, I see that he's just accusing them of being sick of america's heartland and the people who burn their records, and that seems pretty reasonable to me, since i live amongst many people who would burn a chix record or tell me i need to support the troops and so forth. he says the record's too slow, not rowdy enough. they've written almost all the songs themselves this time, they worked with sheryl crow, gary louris, benmont tench. there's nothing that suggest mccall isn't sympathetic, he basically says the record's a drag that seems stuck in therpeutic-angry mode. "The trio don't seem able to let go of a particular harsh, life-changing episode." the photo caption is kind of simplistic: "they may have gotten a bum rap, but the Dixie Chicks need to get over it." Get over it, Chix. maybe it's just that time of the month...

I dunno, the exchange is so typical, a fan who is too hip to think about the music too much and sees it all as a Screwing the Man anti-Music Row situation, the Chix too dumb to realize they're just being used, such an us-vs.-them situation and then total overreaction to a review that may or may not work but which just basically says, this record's not much fun, it lectures and it's a bad media event, a real let-down. And so, perhaps, it's 'cause no one in Nashville ever has a sense of humor, I mean why couldn't the Chix have made a funny album about the whole thing, just blow it up and revel in it? Obviously, they're right about Bush.

But of course, that's never gonna happen, the Chix are going to do a song about their grandmother who has Alzheimer's. the more I think about all this, the more I realize they're probably walking around scared all the time, worried some nut is going to jump out from around the corner. I would, most likely.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:12 (twenty years ago)

shit, they've sold a lotta records, seems like to me. the chix.

so, in the N-ville Scene this week, letters, jeff pitcher writes that michael mccall shares a sentiment with one of those right-wing am-radio guys who lambasted the chix for their failure to appreciate how hard he was trying to forgive them. pitcher says "I never liked them--I thought they were this decade's Mary Chapin Carpenter (huh? is that a good analogy?). Despite substantial presence, skill and talent, I found them a tokenist, fake-edgy act allowed into the mix to 'prove' that country's power brokers really don't regulate the content's POV as rigidly as they in fact do...'Earl' was a phony-assed piece of cutesy crap that reeked of being written on a computer in Green Hills (upper-middle class mall-land of SW Nashville)....I deeply respect these gals (gals) for publicly refusing to make nice with the troglodytes who crushed their CDs with tractors in a bizarre Dogpatch-Jesus-hadi version of an Islamist bookburning. I don't even care if the record's any good." He then closes by saying that if mccall had had his writings burned as have the chix, mccall'd see why the chix should not back down.

reading mccall's piece again, I see that he's just accusing them of being sick of america's heartland and the people who burn their records, and that seems pretty reasonable to me, since i live amongst many people who would burn a chix record or tell me i need to support the troops and so forth. he says the record's too slow, not rowdy enough. they've written almost all the songs themselves this time, they worked with sheryl crow, gary louris, benmont tench. there's nothing that suggest mccall isn't sympathetic, he basically says the record's a drag that seems stuck in therpeutic-angry mode. "The trio don't seem able to let go of a particular harsh, life-changing episode." the photo caption is kind of simplistic: "they may have gotten a bum rap, but the Dixie Chicks need to get over it." Get over it, Chix. maybe it's just that time of the month...

I dunno, the exchange is so typical, a fan who is too hip to think about the music too much and sees it all as a Screwing the Man anti-Music Row situation, the Chix too dumb to realize they're just being used, such an us-vs.-them situation and then total overreaction to a review that may or may not work but which just basically says, this record's not much fun, it lectures and it's a bad media event, a real let-down. And so, perhaps, it's 'cause no one in Nashville ever has a sense of humor, I mean why couldn't the Chix have made a funny album about the whole thing, just blow it up and revel in it? Obviously, they're right about Bush.

But of course, that's never gonna happen, the Chix are going to do a song about their grandmother who has Alzheimer's. the more I think about all this, the more I realize they're probably walking around scared all the time, worried some nut is going to jump out from around the corner. I would, most likely.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:13 (twenty years ago)

You're a better man than I. I don't think the Chicks got a bum rap. I think they inspired a predictable one. That it would be a surprise to them or to anyone else probably comes as a surprise to a lot of people who spent time in "troglodyte" shires and then left when no one would have them.

Heck, even when the repairmen or the painters come to the house in Pasadena for the day, you have to keep 'em off of politics and talk about pets. I can't remember when it wasn't this way, if ever.

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But George, it seems like you're blaming the Chicks entirely

Yeah, I've had enough in the short term. It'll wear off not that it matters. And no, I don't think their "incident" was at all a calculation for publicity. -Now- what they're doing is calculation.
It's what the media wants, though, so it's a two-way street.

George 'the Animal' Steele, Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:43 (twenty years ago)

My Favorite Gangstas: Natalie Maines and Pink:

http://www.takeemastheycome.blogspot.com/

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:53 (twenty years ago)

For whatever it's worth, I had an allergist appointment yesterday morning, and as predicted, there was a copy of the Dixie Chicks *Time* in the waiting room. So I read the story. One thing I didn't know: that Tim McGraw, which the piece describes as one of the only acknowledged Democrats in country music, was also the only country star who would talk to the writer. He said something about outsiders having to realize that, in Nashville, this is a family squabble.

In non-Dixie-Chick country, the best song on this '04 cdbaby CD is a girls night out song called "Girls Night In." The rest of it's OK:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/beckyhobbs3

I've also been listening to and liking the debut by Carter Falco, which has a good sense of rhythm and a good sense of humor and two songs co-starring Shooter Jennings and one song called "Galveston" which isn't the Glen Campbell one and one song called "Union Song" which was written by Tom Morello of all people and sounds like Georgia Satellites crossed with Steve Earle when he didn't suck, and also fortunately sounds nothing like Rage Against the Machine, and has one line apparently shouted by California grocery workers.

xhuxk, Friday, 2 June 2006 13:24 (twenty years ago)

ooh that sounds good

I'm disappointed at first listen by the new Chris Knight, I like his attitude and he's still a good songwriter but he's gotten a bit drearier in an attempt to be more "real," shame about that, I liked The Jealous Kind quite a bit, especially the Matraca Berg song "Devil Behind the Wheel".

I bought the Dixie Chicks album but I haven't heard it yet because I got it for my wife and she wants to return it to Target so she can re-buy it thru Amazon so she can save 2 dollars, I swear I will never understand women sometimes. Plus now that I'm not writing for money anymore I can't even say "BUT MY FREELANCE CAREER WAAAAAH".

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:08 (twenty years ago)

OMG re-reading the first part of that last paragraph I'm afraid I wrote a Brad Paisley song

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:09 (twenty years ago)

its all okay, the spirit of brad paisley visits us all.

im beginning to worry because im listening to almost no chart country these days and am listening to a large amount of indie folk, like im regressing into college era meloncholy and wisdom

make it go away

anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:32 (twenty years ago)

I'm afraid I wrote a Brad Paisley song

"Tell me how many CDs have to die..."

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:56 (twenty years ago)

Why I didn't like Coe and Pantera. I tried a lot, it always beat me. Bad memories had something to do with it, maybe.

http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2006/06/gobblers-old-men-young-men-dead-men.html

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 2 June 2006 22:15 (twenty years ago)

Only a couple of passing references to the Wreckers b/w the teenpop thread and this one. I'd think this would be right up Kogan's alley - it's a potent blend of tough and confessional like so much of the other stuff he champions, plus being well-produced country girl-pop to boot.

Josh Love (screamapillar), Saturday, 3 June 2006 18:57 (twenty years ago)

Actually don't know Michelle Branch's work very well; I love "Everywhere," have felt so-so about her other singles (which I should check on again), and John Shanks, who co-wrote "Everywhere," is nowhere in the Wreckers writing credits. I can't figure out why Allmusic doesn't list producer credits. The unreliable Wikipedia lists John Shanks among a slew of producers, but doesn't say which song(s) he produced. (And anyway, I haven't gone wild over what I've heard of the country tracks Shanks contributed to.) Greg Wells, co-author and co-producer of a good hunk of songs on the second Lohan LP (incl. "Who Loves You" and "Confessions of a Broken Heart") writes one of the Wreckers' songs, "Lay Me Down." I don't have high hopes for a song entitled "Lay Me Down."

The only song I've heard by other Wrecker Jessica Harp is "Perfectly," which is likable enough in a sub-Marit, sub-Skye way. She can't be my paper doll, she avers. (Hmmm, I'm listening to it right now and liking it more than I had previously. Does remind me of Larsen but with power chords and without Larsen's impishness and funny cabaret; Harp did the song before Under the Surface, and probably is worth checking out in her own right.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 21:28 (twenty years ago)

I wrote this about "Silent House" over the Song of the Day section of my MySpace profile:

I won't know for a while what I think of the Dixie Chicks album. My favorites so far are the two angry rockers, but "Silent House" feels more crucial. More typical, at any rate. The Dixies' longplayers have always had stretches of blah, and most of this album is nice enough for blah, soft rock mainly, with interesting arrangements but the melodies aren't kicking in, at least not yet. "Silent House" is an exception: soft beauty that kicks hard with its beauty while staying soft. Maybe I'll figure out why when I get back from breakfast.... EDIT: OK, it's now after breakfast - after lunch even. My wisdom is "has something to do with being in the key of C-sharp but - when the melody shifts - passing through the relative major (E-flat) on the way to the fourth (F)." Like, that explains it. Anyway, sounds good.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 21:35 (twenty years ago)

Over in the Song of the Day section of my MySpace profile.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 21:39 (twenty years ago)

did the song before Under the Surface was released, that is...

(I'm not even tired; don't know why I'm fucking up all my posts.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 21:42 (twenty years ago)

i wonder if the dixie chicks album is one we come to a decade later when the poltics changes, and we can finally look at it as an aesthetic object or an object of nostaligc curiousity

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 5 June 2006 02:50 (twenty years ago)

what is it now???

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 5 June 2006 02:52 (twenty years ago)

a fuck you to country

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 5 June 2006 05:36 (twenty years ago)

http://bradyearnhart.com/mp3/thank_god_virginias_on_our_side.mp3
this is good

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 5 June 2006 05:52 (twenty years ago)

C-sharp is a cutting kind of key, Frank, so may be you on to something. The relative minor is A-sharp, though.

I'll have a longish thing on Blaine Larsen's two records up on Nashville Scene this Wednesday.

Anyone heard Ronnie Milsap's Keith Stegall-produced new one, "My Life"?

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:50 (twenty years ago)

Hey, Frank: John Leventhal & Rick DePofi produced the bulk of The Wreckers' debut. That was the last album I worked on as assistant and I've got good memories of working on it. Haven't heard it yet, though.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 5 June 2006 21:24 (twenty years ago)

Good short piece on Dylan the songwriter in the new Paste by our Frank.
My girlfriend subscribes. Not that you asked.

I am thinking this Dixie Chick album is very very good--despite being too long, with at least three tracks of blatant filler. What Jeff Lynne song or Tom Petty song or Traveling Wilburys song is the rhythm part for Voices In My Head? And I love the sitarified 12 string or whatever it is. A radio edit--half the songs flirt with the 5 minute mark, more FU to country radio--and pre-incident time travel and it would be one of the best things on Clear Channel.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:37 (twenty years ago)

"Silent House" is just flat-out extraordinary. You get that open-sounding harmony on the verse and you're like, "jeez, do voices get any prettier?" and then the chorus slips in and it's super tight parralel third hamony-land and it's just breathtaking, the way the Everlys were at their tonally most pure but with the added attraction and implied ache in the slight burr or rasp in Maine's voice. Then there's that single second verse bit of momentary brilliance where, to accentuate one line, they hit a suspended major chord where lesser souls would go to the usual minor. It's a detail, but a splendid one that shows just how much everyone is paying attention.

The banjo on "Lubbuck or Leave It" freaks me out--I swear, Rubin went over every arpeggiated note and cut out anything that didn't work in a modal, Celtic way. It end up sounding like tiny ballpeen hammers dancing angrily, but also teasingly.

Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:48 (twenty years ago)

is this the place to state that i have tried to write about hiway 61 for a couple of weeks now, in the midst of other things, and find it really well not awful, but pretentious and unpentatable(sp)...i dont get why he is considered a sage, a poet, or even a good writer, he has decent songs, but nothing trasncendent?

or just read the paste peice

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 05:03 (twenty years ago)

Is that your way of saying you're embarrassed that Bob Dylan is from Minnesota?

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 05:21 (twenty years ago)

nah, its my way of saying that i dont like the canon

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 05:38 (twenty years ago)

Anthony, if you listen to Dylan as if he's maybe as good as Stick McGhee singing "Drinkin' Wine, Spo-De-O-Dee" (which is the greatest bit of poetry in the "canon" even in the 1947 version where he situates the song in Petersburg, Va. and not in New Orleans, "everything is fine" both places just like Dylan riding his mail train looking for a thrill), and forget all that sage stuff, why then "Highway 61" sounds just fine, I think.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:44 (twenty years ago)

test

don (dow), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 01:43 (twenty years ago)

okay, now I'm registered, but how do yall cutnpaste stuff into the post box? I thought it would show me, once I was finally made!

don goodfella (dow), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 02:46 (twenty years ago)

i like some of it tangled up in blue, visions of johanna, lay lady lay, you gotta serve somebody, and a few others but hes no kris kristofferson, johnny cash, jerry lee lewis, john prine, ap carter, sarah carter, june carter cash, woody gutherie, leadbelly, wc handy, louvin brothers, dolly parton, loretta lynn, tom t hall, bob wills, pete seeger, shel silverstien, warren zevon, kitty wells, etc

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 04:49 (twenty years ago)

Biggest laugh of the day so far: Looking at the web stats for Dick Destiny blog and the entry mentioned upthread. Search term most used before coming to this page: dixie chicks not read to make nice guitar tabs.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:07 (twenty years ago)

my favorite song on the new dixie chicks CD so far: "long time around"
better when i'm not watching the video: "not ready to make nice"
kinda dull so far: "easy silence," "lullaby"
kinda catchy so far: "lubbock or leave it"

longer but also more consitent than the becky hobbs CD i linked to up above:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/beckyhobbs4

which is her best-of.
best song on it: "mama was a working man."

also listening to:

lucky 7, *one way track* (parts of which remind of the blasters, joe king carrasco and the crowns, dave edmunds)

marshall tucker band, *we're going to be here for a while!: live on long island, 4-18-80* (shout! factory)

have not been motivated to listen to these much:
new blaine larsen CD
new trent willmon CD

okay, back to hiding in my cave now.

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:23 (twenty years ago)

One last comment on the Dixie Chicks, unless I ever get the promo. There's no way they wouldn't have had to talk about that shit, no matter how they've exploited it. It was bound to be exploited by others, incl the ones who made an example of them, and turned Dixie Chick into a verb. (as in, "If Tim McGraw really is going to run for office as a Demo, is he worried about being Dixie Chicked?") Sasha was disappointed that they wrote about The Incident, but not the war. But how good would that have been? Anybody heard any compelling songs about Iraq? I haven't heard Neil Young's new album, but apparently more about the fallout in domestic political bickering. Live From Iraq (no names of performers listed)keeps or kept me listening, but it's dominated by this one ahole who considers that being a soldier entitles him to kill anybody.(Not that other participants are aholes, necessarily: "Ride" ia about worrying that your woman back home is cheating, struggling with all sorts of thoughts about that, as you patrol)

don (dow), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:29 (twenty years ago)

xp: oops, "the long time around," i meant.

also, i like the bop-bop-bop pop backing voices in "i like it," and "voice inside my head" sugguests sheryl crow plus tom petty's guitar player (rather than the funkiest song the police ever did.)

(i never got a promo, but when i sold my other promos to my promo-buying guy, he traded me a copy. copies of damone and wolfmother too. damone is real good, especially "out here all night" and "outta my way," the latter of which sounds a lot like "nothing but a good time" by poison except maybe better. wolfmother have been annoying the hell out of me. sometimes their riffs are catchy, but the singer sounds even more like jack white with anorexia than i'd remembered.)

also, bob dylan is a lot better than anthony thinks.

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:34 (twenty years ago)

FUCK. "The Long WAY Around." Jeez. (It's almost the album title, for crissakes.) (Though so far I just think of it as "The Song About High School.") (which it may or may not actually be about.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:36 (twenty years ago)

Also, give or take a couple lines in the single, the DC CD does not really hit me much like "a fuck you to country" at all. (Even those couple lines don't hit me as a fuck you to country, really. And there is nothing not-country about sounding like Sheryl Crow these days. And they haven't reminded me of the Eagles or Fleetwood Mac yet, though maybe they eventually will. I hear more Fleetwood Mac in Little Big Town or in Bering Strait. Though maybe that will change.) (The songs I kinda dislike so far seem more alt-country than '70s soft Cali rock.) (But "Lullaby" has a sorta minimalist swirl to it.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:44 (twenty years ago)

>>Sasha was disappointed that they wrote about The Incident

Notify the Pulitzer committees.

xpost

You have a fine fellow in that promo-buying guy. At Amoeba, you just get sneered at which makes the stuff like that latest Spencer Dickinson, which I'm assuming it going to be, useless. Actually, everything I get is useless. I think they plan it that way. The only two things that weren't were bought. The Crash Kelly promo was a beaut, too. In a Radio Shack paper sleeve with their name in magic marker on the CD-R.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:48 (twenty years ago)

>You have a fine fellow in that promo-buying guy. <

You have no idea. He makes HOUSE CALLS. And I get FINDER'S FEES. Now if I only I got more than a fraction of the promos that I was getting in the mail two months ago. (Or even if I got as many as I was getting in the mail eight years ago, before I had a job in the first place.) (But for whatever it's worth, my copy of the Crash Kelly CD was a markered CD-R too. Either way, it's a great album.)

> nothing I'd read about Oakley Hall really gave me the impression I got from listening:"country rock,"<

Yeah, Don, I agree. As much country rock as "freak folk". But do you like anything else on the CD as much as the admittedly Fairported "House Carpenter"? I don't think I do. Maybe the "me and my baby in a knock-down drag" one--I guess that would be "Living In Sin in the USA," maybe? Whatever track #4 is called. And a couple other cuts have a bit of stomp and psych to them, but most of them don't leave much of a lasting impression. I definitely prefer when the girl's singing to when the guy is. What am I missing here?

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:07 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I guess what I like about the initial subset of guitars shaking their chains (with vocals I'd think any fans or likers of say, Little Big Town would also like; I don't like LBT, but like F.Mac, X, Airplane and other guysngals vocals) is what had me comparing them to "Mr.Soul," those taut, wary compressed (self-disciplined)guitar outbursts, becoming more sustained but balanced by wary vocal chorus (like the chorus in some Greek tragedies). Sort of like what My Morning Jacket might be moving toward. And then, they drop it.(Rather than milk a good approach to death, like a good bizzer should.) And the female singer moves up front, and the intruments accompany her in various ways, and yeah "Living In Sin In The USA" is prob the best single original, but it's really about the overall variety(in subsets, etc.) and pacing. And the overall restless autumnal mood seems country enough to me.

don (dow), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)

PS: "sort of like what My Morning Jacket might be moving toward" IF they got as hot in studio as they do sometimes live and IF they got more better singers. (Prob mostly wishful thinking)

don (dow), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)

speaking of promos, im having a bitch of a time finding promos of dale watson and gary bennett, and i am supposed to review their albums for left hip, i have contacted the pr companies, anyone want to help a bro out

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:39 (twenty years ago)


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