If you actively dislike Creedence Clearwater Revival, then I can never respect anything you have to say about anything.

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I didn't realise Run Through The Jungle was CCR! I only know the 8 Eyed Spy & Gun Club versions. I guess I'd better download that one as well then...

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Green River is the one.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link

THEY ARE ALL THE ONE

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Yo Colonel: also go for the song 'Ramble Tamble' for brilliant uncharacteristic mesmeric psych jam! And in response to what people say upthread about lack of UK airplay etc., Wogan often rocks a bit of 'Lodi' or 'Bad Moon' in the AM! If that ain't mainstream, I dunno what is.

myopic_void, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Every album has a song you don't notice much on the first few listenings, but which creeps up behind and sticks an ice pick in your noggin: "Sinister Purpose", "Penthouse Pauper" et al

Tom D., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I put Ramble Tamble (and a pre-CCR track of theirs) on my blog earlier this week: http://pentangle.net/blog/archives/156 and http://pentangle.net/blog/archives/153.

caek, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link

no mention of Bayou Country?? THAT one is the one that kicked my ass - i never have gotten up from that

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

by the way, in 1969, Bayou Country reached #41 on Billboard's "Black Albums" chart

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

someone just mentioned Penthouse Pauper, that's on Bayou, right? As is Keep on Chooglin'. I youtubed that Woodstock stuff this weekend, holy cow.

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

"Not much exposure apart from having a UK No. 1 Single, 3 other UK Top 10 singles, two further UK Top 20 singles and three more UK Top 40 singles... total unknowns really."

Yeah, but you'd never know it, would you?

They never crop up on those "Sounds of The Sixities"/"Rock'n' Roll Years" type nostalgia programmes. It might be because there's no readily available UK TV performances that are easy to dig out of the archives. Unlike, say, The Byrds, where you'll always see that TOTP "Tambourine Man" clip pop up sooner or later.

They've pretty much been erased from the collective UK memory, as far as I can see.

PhilK, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:50 (sixteen years ago) link

i just wanna pop in to say that i am more proud of this thrad than any other thread i have started on ILM ever.

ian, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 18:22 (sixteen years ago) link

They were overrated, but I don't actively dislike them.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Yo Colonel: also go for the song 'Ramble Tamble' for brilliant uncharacteristic mesmeric psych jam!

also on this tip - Pagan Baby!! total killer, that one.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I youtubed that Woodstock stuff this weekend

!!! I have never seen this footage, wasn't aware it was even available

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link

"They've pretty much been erased from the collective UK memory"

Yes, it took a lot of work, but we did it. Skynyrd are next.

Soukesian, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link

christ no wonder the uk's music scene sucks

omar little, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link

hahaha

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:52 (sixteen years ago) link

sad but true

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Amen.

JN$OT, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 10:23 (sixteen years ago) link

i'd got to war for CCR

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link

CCR haters hate your freedom

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link

HEY SHAKEY MOOOOO

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ccr+woodstock

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

ja watched all those last night - thx!

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

"christ no wonder the uk's music scene sucks"

Of course, it's stuff like this that prompts us UK'ers who like CCR in practice to hate them in principle.

PhilK, Thursday, 11 October 2007 10:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Thinking about what you said about CCR not being that well known in the UK in spite of their (quite considerable) chart success, maybe that's because they were considered a sort of pop band? Therefore not deemed interesting enough for proggers? More conjecture, in the 70s, didn't Status Quo basically become a kind of UK version of CCR? Blotting out CCR in the process?

Tom D., Thursday, 11 October 2007 10:56 (sixteen years ago) link

ohhhhh that's right you Britishers are obsessed with categories of music and such, i forgot. carry on.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 October 2007 11:20 (sixteen years ago) link

And Americans aren't?!?! LOL

Tom D., Thursday, 11 October 2007 11:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Ugh.

caek, Thursday, 11 October 2007 11:59 (sixteen years ago) link

i said obsessed, not aware of

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 October 2007 12:05 (sixteen years ago) link

"didn't Status Quo basically become a kind of UK version of CCR?"

Quo, at their peak, were far heavier than CCR could dream of being.

Soukesian, Thursday, 11 October 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Quo were louder. Louder ain't heavier. And fey faux-"psychedelic" vocals damn sure ain't heavier than Fogerty.

Sara Sara Sara, Thursday, 11 October 2007 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Quo's thing was brutal, unrelenting riffage. They helped create metal as we know it. Not for what they added, but for all they stripped away.

Soukesian, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

oh thank god ilx is back

ghost rider, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

i missed its brutal, unrelenting idiocy

ghost rider, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link

What's wrong with brutal, unrelenting idiocy? We all love the Ramones, nicht wahr?

Soukesian, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

heads-down boogie and chooglin' are two very different things, my man.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link

amen!

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link

"heads-down boogie and chooglin' are two very different things, my man"

OTM, and I hpe we can part as friends on that one,

Soukesian, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link

This is a great thread, but I kinda regret reviving it. Having three CCR threads among all Geir's polls for a couple of days was rad though.

caek, Friday, 12 October 2007 01:16 (sixteen years ago) link

chronicles vol. 1

am0n, Friday, 12 October 2007 04:05 (sixteen years ago) link

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am0n, Friday, 12 October 2007 04:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Tom - yeah, you might have a point there. A lot of people seem to know "Bad Moon Rising" and "Fortunate Son", but often don't know who it's by.

I personally think that CCR didn't have the kind of "media presence" here that they did in the US. A lot of rock''roll memory is about associating a name to a face. I kind of think that the British equivalent is T-Rex. Lot's of Americans probably know "Get It On" ("Bang A Gong"), but didn't have enough TV exposure of Marc Bolan for T-Rex to become iconic in the USA.

I understand where you are coming from with the Status Quo reference, but I think the USA vs. UK disconnect is due to the different ways our respective media work (especially TV) than any profound musical differences.

PhilK, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Dude we love T. Rex

Mr. Que, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

But not in the same way you love CCR. Which is kind of my point.

PhilK, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link

i dunno, there's a lot of love for them (T. Rex) over here.

Mr. Que, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link

C'mon, as PhilK said there are a handful of T Rex songs that are huge in the US, but T Rex doesn't have anything like the profile of CCR on e.g. classic rock radio. You can regularly hear 80% of Chronicle vol 1 there, but the only T Rex you'll regularly get is "Get It On".

Euler, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

They're both great bands (imho obv.)

But I'm talking in kind of "folk memory" terms, which is admittedly vague, but...

The difference I sense is that CCR have a strong sentimental appeal to Americans - they're the kind of consensus band that everyone can love, through various generations, whereas T-Rex have a different kind of appeal - more different, more alien.

And the same applies to T-Rex in the UK - generally they have a univeral cross-generational appeal, whereas CCR are more of a niche classic rock/americanophile band (and I'm an americanophile at heart).

Of course, this may just be my personal perception, but it seems to be "true" to me.

PhilK, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

did CCR ever tour the UK...?

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link

cuz that might explain a bit.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link

if I had a band we would start every show with "Ramble Tamble."

will, Saturday, 13 October 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link


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